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February 02, 2024, 04:30:20 PM
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Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc.

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February 02, 2024, 06:45:39 PM
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Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc.

It's really tough to just go by the ToS. Some books say that they may require a 5x if they suspect using a mixer. The book may never use that clause, but it's still there. They also don't have to prove mixer use, they can just say they suspect it. If they actually require a 5x that something that could be acknowledged in a review. The same goes for confiscation of dormant accounts. The clause is there but may never be used.

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February 02, 2024, 10:58:05 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll most likely just do that. Luckily Maverick and Roobet work just fine in my location, so if they do ask for KYC, it should be a problem. I will try to do 1 review per week and start with Stake. I have extensively used Stake as a sportsbook over the past year or so and it will be comparatively easy for me to kick things off. I see that you've started writing reviews on sportsbooks as well and it's nice to see. Looking forward to more reviews in the future.
Some casinos have different website domains available in different regions, like Stake does with .us domain, so remember to check that if something is not available in your country.
And since you are doing this for the purpose of review and rating I don't think that using  a vpn would be such a big problem, unless you plan to use that website long term.
Casinos way of asking for kyc should be important part of your reviews.

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February 03, 2024, 07:41:42 AM
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It's really tough to just go by the ToS. Some books say that they may require a 5x if they suspect using a mixer. The book may never use that clause, but it's still there. They also don't have to prove mixer use, they can just say they suspect it. If they actually require a 5x that something that could be acknowledged in a review.
That's a good example. If that point is there, the casino has the right to take advantage of it. Whether they will use said right is their discretion. It's certainly something I would consider unfair. And if you think about it, any use of a casino with crypto can be considered mixing your coins. You deposit your coins, which go into a big pool with those of other players and when you request a withdrawal, you get back something completely different with a different history behind it. You mixed your coins.

The same goes for confiscation of dormant accounts. The clause is there but may never be used.
I have noticed that with certain casinos while doing my checks for my Withdrawal Fees thread. My dummy accounts created only for that purpose suddenly stopped working in some instances. That means they deleted it from their systems after x amount of months without real use. It's not a problem, as long as they don't confiscate your deposits or winnings with it.

But online casinos also have dormant account fees. That's something that could be considered unfair. At least, it's in the grey area. 

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February 03, 2024, 08:09:51 AM
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Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc.
Yes, I have considered that those that you've mentioned are included but aren't these unfair wager deposits already listed on their terms and conditions before someone can finish their registration right? But my point still stands that it's difficult to balance or make your terms and conditions fair so that both the business owner and the players are getting what they deserve at a minimum. I don't get the betting limits though, they're a gambling business after all, shouldn't they be able to pay whatever the players want to bet on? I guess they're just covering their asses in the case that someone bets something so high that they might have a problem paying it. Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be nice if gambling business do a TLDR for their terms and conditions so everyone is able to understand what they're getting into and they know that they're to blame in the case that something wrong happens in their accounts.



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