WARNING dirty paypal money gameristo

[HardyGoodsLtd]

so before you all start jumping saying its my fault for cashing out BTC for PP, yes, i knew the risks, this post is here to prevent others form getting ruined, consider this post educational, I have lost my money now.

I have been dealing with gameristo for a good while now, and only had a blip of an issue over a year ago, together I had cashed out thousands with no issues, but recently I started getting Paypal messaging me asking me to verify payments, which is easy enough, just a click box type thing, However, the last two payments were on hold (sent as goods) and they wanted proof of perchance, so I said it was returned money to me, so they closed my account.

it was only 2 small payments aswell!

I had a longstanding account, and it was closed for this issue, its not like he was a new player in the market, I thought reputation was enough.

I am happy to go through more info if anyone needs it, please just dont trade with this user, I have had many good trades with other users with larger amounts and had no issues.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

I started a thread a couple of years ago similar to this one, because gameristo has been known to use multiple PayPal accounts and to send PayPal funds to you before any deal is struck (at least that's happened to me before).  Now, there could be legitimate reasons why he has control over multiple PayPal accounts, but that's something that always bugged me.

And I got a warning from PayPal not too long ago saying that the friends & family payment method was not to be used for purchases/sales, and I took that seriously.  Gameristo is otherwise completely trustworthy as far as him not scamming you, because there were a few times when he surely could have but didn't.  I'm not sure I agree with everything OP is recommending here, but definitely use caution--not just with gameristo, but with everyone you're trading with.

[HardyGoodsLtd]

I started a thread a couple of years ago similar to this one, because gameristo has been known to use multiple PayPal accounts and to send PayPal funds to you before any deal is struck (at least that's happened to me before).  Now, there could be legitimate reasons why he has control over multiple PayPal accounts, but that's something that always bugged me.

And I got a warning from PayPal not too long ago saying that the friends & family payment method was not to be used for purchases/sales, and I took that seriously.  Gameristo is otherwise completely trustworthy as far as him not scamming you, because there were a few times when he surely could have but didn't.  I'm not sure I agree with everything OP is recommending here, but definitely use caution--not just with gameristo, but with everyone you're trading with.

yes absolutely, just to note, I have only recently been receiving funds without prior agreement, but again I was ok with this as I look for regular traders, so this should have raised flags for me, but I confess it was convenient and did not look further into this, but your correct about that point,  and secondly, again yes, I have not been scammed, as I have noted in his trust as a warning only, and for people to read this thread first, I suppose my issue is, if funds are 100% legit (as advertised) then I should not have had a closed account, or is this a case of the money is ok, but the accounts used are not? my account was 99% IRL trades, with only a small amount selling BTC, with excellent standing, so to go from that to account closed is a little more than annoying.

both the payments in question are small and from the same account, one he has used many times before, So there is a real possibility that he has lost one of his main accounts as well.

personally though I am shafted, I used my real PP account fully verified and longstanding, I have over 2k stuck in there, and a further 9k in limbo, the money left friends (IRL) account and I cant confirm money as I have been locked out, I know eventually it will get sorted, I have to set up another account and wait 6 months before I can clam anything left, If any of the other payments have been charged back, I thought I was quite a sensible person, but again this is here as more of a warning, hence the title, but scam accusations thread was the best place I could find for this.

[Steamtyme]

, but again this is here as more of a warning, hence the title, but scam accusations thread was the best place I could find for this.

Sorry to hear man. Hiccups especially in those sums are not easy to weather.
 I just figured I'd drop the option of using the Reputation board as opposed to Scam Accusation. Just going off your words, unless things change while you wait this out.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

if funds are 100% legit (as advertised) then I should not have had a closed account

I'm not sure PayPal closed your account because you received "dirty" money--if they had any suspicion about where gameristo got his funds, I'd think they'd close his account before he could send you anything and wouldn't penalize you instead.  That makes no sense.

As I said, I got a warning from PayPal about using the F&F feature instead of Goods & Services, and that was after gameristo had sent funds unsolicited to me, which pissed me off.  I don't know what's up with him, but perhaps he'll see this thread and reply here.  Again, I've had no problems with him other than getting PayPal funds prior to any deal being made, but if my account (that I've had for years) were closed because of it, it'd be a different story--and I understand your frustration.

[gameristo]

just seen this topic right now

paypal funds was clean and NON credit card or bank funds

paypal shit feel suspicious as more then 2 payments sent fast as friends payment and they thing something wrong while nothing wrong and funds NEVER hacked or stolen one or etc

and still funds legit but paypal have pain in ass they just feel wrong if an person just transfer more then 1 payments fast as personal friends payment

never mention any thing related to coin in payment memo and its personal payment like some one sent to friend for share visit and spend time together and dinner or hoteling expenses etc

[HardyGoodsLtd]

just seen this topic right now

paypal funds was clean and NON credit card or bank funds

paypal shit feel suspicious as more then 2 payments sent fast as friends payment and they thing something wrong while nothing wrong and funds NEVER hacked or stolen one or etc

and still funds legit but paypal have pain in ass they just feel wrong if an person just transfer more then 1 payments fast as personal friends payment

never mention any thing related to coin in payment memo and its personal payment like some one sent to friend for share visit and spend time together and dinner or hoteling expenses etc

bud, why you said three times it was friends paymant, it was not, it was sent as goods, they wanted receipts for shipping from me, I am happy to provide proof in pics if you want, this was not a friends payment.

also, I said nothing about coins, I also have proof of that, like you asked me to say, it was a cash payback from you.

[gameristo]

replied via PM

payment 100% sent as friends payment and paypal charge 2.27 USD fees which normally fee of sending friends payment via paypal

otherwise if payment for goods sent then pp must cut around 5% of amount from receiver paypal account

[Timelord2067]

gameristo...

gameristo...

Now why does that name ring a bell...

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Oh YES!

Timelord2067

2017-03-24

Reference

Accounts Connected: gameristo u=214455, DavidGermany u=963644 and probably CalCoins u=372138 http://archive.is/w59nT#selection-689.0-710.10 (Delete)

How do people reply here so quickly after their name is posted!? I never understand that. It's like they search their username just to see if they've been caught yet lol.

i'm guessing timelord either bcc's them or let's them know .. Good question tho.

I couldn't be bothered BCC'ing, CC'ing or just telling anyone that they have made an appearance.  I'm guessing they monitor their trust wall, or turn to this page (every day)... the possibilities are endless.

Probably an early form of the Telegram notification bots that are used here ??


Regardless of that, how long has this been dragging on for? Why I ask is that you posted this back in August of last year:

HardyGoodsLtd

2020-08-04

ok, so here is the story, I have had successful trades in the past with this user, and we recently done quite a bit of trading, but because this user uses multiple different paypal accounts, my paypal account has been blocked and under investigation, I am assured by this user that all funds are clean and no issue will be found, but it has caused me real trouble IRL as I use my paypal account for day to day living, so I have changed my feedback from negative to neutral, I am just having to wait untill paypal unlock my account.

Now you've escalated it here:

HardyGoodsLtd

2021-03-30

Reference

please read link, trade at your risk of loosing payapal account, dirty money after claims 100% genuine.

[HardyGoodsLtd]

gameristo...

gameristo...

Now why does that name ring a bell...

...

Oh YES!


Regardless of that, how long has this been dragging on for? Why I ask is that you posted this back in August of last year:

HardyGoodsLtd

2020-08-04

ok, so here is the story, I have had successful trades in the past with this user, and we recently done quite a bit of trading, but because this user uses multiple different paypal accounts, my paypal account has been blocked and under investigation, I am assured by this user that all funds are clean and no issue will be found, but it has caused me real trouble IRL as I use my paypal account for day to day living, so I have changed my feedback from negative to neutral, I am just having to wait untill paypal unlock my account.

just to respond to this as you asked a question, this was over very quickly, gameristro advised me how to respond, and I did, and everything was over quickly, I was not sure how to handle these types of transaction on paypal, my account was only used for e-bay previously, and I must stress that I decided to continue with our trading, I wrongly assumed at the time that is was sorted and done, again, this is not a scammer thread, so far, I have not actually lost any money, (locked for 180 days) but I wanted to make people aware BEFORE they trade, I assume there will be people out there where this sort of thing does not bother them and also wan to take the risk, that's fine.

ALSO - gameristro has sent me screenies as proof of sending as friends (well there was no mention of goods on receipt) I cant log in to my side, I am greeted by a red triangle of doom. so a little more to this story, just for entertainment purposes, I did ring up support and was told outright nothing can be done, despite on the e-mail I was told I can appeal, but googling other users with similar issues, there are two e-mails of contact higher pay grade than support, so I have written off to them, apparently, I can ask for exact details of why this was an issue, and they have to respond by law, so we will see what they say, I will update here.