Corruption and Sports

[Silberman]

While I agree that corruption is inevitable and that some level of it is going to exist in every single country around the world we cannot use that as an excuse to not fight against it, corruption in sports is a very big deal because the whole point of holding sport competitions is to see who is the best at an activity when you have a level playing field, if one person or team has an unfair advantage over their opponents then not only that is cheating but that also denies any reason to watch the sport at all.

Louder. Corruption is a thing, and will continue to be a thing yes, but removing it from the scene, even if temporarily,  is still a huge benefit to everyone in that scene. Sides, you can't exactly expect for only a single group to eradicate corruption in a group/scene for all eternity right? They'd have to commit mass genocide for that to even work. Maybe if we were to ignore a person's privacy rights and let everything be publicly reflected, it could be reduced to the minimum, but in the end, it still needs to have that central figure that wouldn't allow corruption.

There is no need to go that far, what must be done is to make sure that the players are following the rules and if there is a suspicion of something going on then an investigation must follow to see if something is wrong, if this is done often enough then corruption in the world of sports will be reduced significantly as people that would otherwise be willing to cheat are going to think it twice since they will be afraid of being caught and being penalized.

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[michellee]

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Like you, I used to naively believe that sooner or later the good guys would beat corruption. How very wrong I was. At present I am sure that the special services have long ago collected so much dirt on most of the people in power that they can be prosecuted and put behind bars for a long time at any time. Corruption is a lever to force the weaker players to play by the rules of the stronger players and protect their interests.

No, we are not wrong thinking like that because no matter if that is hard, I believe the corruption can get solved. But it would need a long time to solve the case one by one because corruption already happened a long time ago. And if the corruption can solve it could be related to the old corruption that has already happened, especially if it's related to the old officer involved in the corruption at that time. We as a citizen can only hope the corruption can get solved in the future.

[jrrsparkles]

Players often try to take advantage of the opportunity, when they see a large amount of money can be found from there and the risk is low. Those who know sports news may know how many superstar players have been involved in fixing at different times.

They didn't always survive by fixing, many times many superstars were caught fixing and their careers were ruined. So in some cases greed has affected many superstars in the wrong direction.

But we never know how many of the superstars were caught like 50% or 20% or everyone?

They will be living like a superstar until they get caught but match fixing reduced a lot due to the better camera quality so even if they try to cheat they will get caught in the end.

[Ucy]

Louder. Corruption is a thing, and will continue to be a thing yes, but removing it from the scene, even if temporarily,  is still a huge benefit to everyone in that scene. Sides, you can't exactly expect for only a single group to eradicate corruption in a group/scene for all eternity right? They'd have to commit mass genocide for that to even work. Maybe if we were to ignore a person's privacy rights and let everything be publicly reflected, it could be reduced to the minimum, but in the end, it still needs to have that central figure that wouldn't allow corruption.

The bolded will likely not work if everyone is not very transparent. Imagine what will happen in a society where most people are completely transparent (no privacy/anonymity), while some secretly avoid being totally transparent. If the secret ones are evil, they will likely harm the transparent ones secretly. I think everyone has to be completely transparent and good for this to work.

[perfect999]

Eradicating corruption is indeed not easy because there will be a reliable team to anticipate if it is revealed and made suspects for those who are not involved because corruptors have great teams and lawyers, and corruptors also have strategies and look for victims who will be involved if caught.
and all because of money and greed, if tempted to earn large sums of money, anyone will get involved and even become the sole suspect.
Things like that often happen to organizations or governments, and anyone who is strong will win and the point is never to try or be tempted by money that is not his right because it is a temptation of how strong your faith is.

I think governments could do this, governments could handle something like this if they wanted to. Let's face it, the leagues all around the world is under control of the government a bit but not a whole lot and they try to be as supportive as possible since it is a good thing for the community and I get that, but UEFA which is a private organization has a lot more say about the teams than any government, while governments could do something about a team, UEFA could literally force it to close by punishing them constantly if they wanted to.

This is why it is obvious that we should be focusing on the governments, they could fire all the responsible people and charge UEFA with criminal act for all the corruption and that could end it all. However I know that none of those politicians would do it because obviously they are in it as well.

[Silberman]

Players often try to take advantage of the opportunity, when they see a large amount of money can be found from there and the risk is low. Those who know sports news may know how many superstar players have been involved in fixing at different times.

They didn't always survive by fixing, many times many superstars were caught fixing and their careers were ruined. So in some cases greed has affected many superstars in the wrong direction.

But we never know how many of the superstars were caught like 50% or 20% or everyone?

They will be living like a superstar until they get caught but match fixing reduced a lot due to the better camera quality so even if they try to cheat they will get caught in the end.

Things have changed thanks to the increase on the popularity of sports all over the world, for a star now it does not make sense to cheat as much as before because they are being paid a fortune on and off the field, while decades ago this was not the case as television rights did not paid as much money during these days so many stars were more willing to cheat because the money was worth it for them, that does not mean that corruption has been eradicated, it is not, but we are slowly moving in the right direction.

[maydna]

Louder. Corruption is a thing, and will continue to be a thing yes, but removing it from the scene, even if temporarily,  is still a huge benefit to everyone in that scene. Sides, you can't exactly expect for only a single group to eradicate corruption in a group/scene for all eternity right? They'd have to commit mass genocide for that to even work. Maybe if we were to ignore a person's privacy rights and let everything be publicly reflected, it could be reduced to the minimum, but in the end, it still needs to have that central figure that wouldn't allow corruption.

The bolded will likely not work if everyone is not very transparent. Imagine what will happen in a society where most people are completely transparent (no privacy/anonymity), while some secretly avoid being totally transparent. If the secret ones are evil, they will likely harm the transparent ones secretly. I think everyone has to be completely transparent and good for this to work.

It is hard to expect them for transparency, especially if they are organized for a long time. Corruption is a big thing that already happens in many businesses, and when some good officers want to eradicate it, they need to have a strong backup from the high-level officers. Otherwise, those good officers will not survive in their job or even their lives. Yes, it needs time to eradicate. Although it is hard, it still needs to do because the root of corruption already reaches the low level of the officers. It needs more support from all good officers who don't want corruption to happen so that all things can be good in the future.

[Ucy]

I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I wonder what the football governing bodies do if evidences for accusations of that nature are presented to them? Do they ignore or investigate them thoroughly and transparently?  I strongly believe taking every important complaint of fraud seriously and addressing it satisfactory will certainly help reduce corruption. And it's important to always have witnesses and evidences to support the fraud accusations. A good judge should be able to know the truth and pass judgment that both the accused and accuser can't find fault in.

[aioc]

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

[Yamifoud]

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

The government has to act on this, this is betrayal of public trust because sports are supported by fans and the fans are the public. The greed for money is the main reason, but without a strong implementation of law, this would become rampant.

[molsewid]

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

Sad to say these people are really exists they don't care whether their reputation gone ruining coz what matters to them was they can earn and generate a profit favourable to them. But what was worst than we think was it does existed in any kind of organization sometimes even in small organization and yeah even in sports it also happened. These people are the reason why sometimes involving in sports betting are crucial because they have the power to control the game which is toxic and it sucks.

[KTChampions]

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

I condemn such people, but I understand where they come from. In many sports, a negligible number of players make more or less normal profits. Do you agree that it is quite difficult to spend all your youth on one sport and realize that you will not be a top player and your efforts will not pay off? I think disappointed such people are trying to make money.

[Russlenat]

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

I condemn such people, but I understand where they come from. In many sports, a negligible number of players make more or less normal profits. Do you agree that it is quite difficult to spend all your youth on one sport and realize that you will not be a top player and your efforts will not pay off? I think disappointed such people are trying to make money.

But that is still not a good excuse, you choose that sport, you should love and respect it, when you cheat you are cheating the fans of the sport and I don't think that's acceptable.

Let's put it this way, a certain league like NBA is very successful because the fans are supporting it, watching the game and buying their stuff that's why the organization were able to pay their players with lucrative salary, but if one player will rig a game and it was discovered, that's a shame for the entire organization and bad image for the NBA and possible other sports will be affected.

[qory]

Maybe you should make a topic with corruption on the forum. especially with all those corrupt DT members that are involved in this business.
Jollygood for example.

[Pamadar]

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

The government has to act on this, this is betrayal of public trust because sports are supported by fans and the fans are the public. The greed for money is the main reason, but without a strong implementation of law, this would become rampant.

The greed for money is key factor, the very reason why this kind of issue is still existing up to know,

Worse things happened as it influenced more sports gambling all over the world, big and small  this corruptions are very active, lots
of people are engage to this events, very need to implement strong rules about it and try to clean it out if there's still possibilities.

[michellee]

I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money. They can use many ways to corrupt the money, especially in sports, because that is big money involved in that business, so they will not let the chance is gone. The public will not know if the referees will be fixing match results as that will be under other people's hands. The referees can only do their job and let the rest will arrange by the corrupt officials.

[Fortify]

What sort of country do you live in that sports has such a corruption issue? Might it be Russia? It does happen in many countries but if sports people are corrupt, that is usually because the government has widespread corruption and it filters through everything in day to day life. You can usually set up rules and transparency that mean cheaters can be caught over the long term, so it is not difficult to stop it if they really wanted to. Some countries think that winning at all costs is better than playing fairly, which again is a weak mentality that encourages people to take short cuts like using banned performance enhancing drugs. If you have such a big and prominent issue with sports then it is usually a sign of poor morality pervading through your whole society which cannot be fixed by a few band-aid solutions.

[hahay]

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

[mirakal]

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

Politicians are not close in participating in this corruption, especially a major sports, but for small sports, then probably they can but if fans knows what's going on, will they still play and enjoy the game? I think no, that doesn't makes sense anymore to follow, maybe that's one of the reasons why there are countries who love international league than their local league, probably due to some corruption.

[BuNga_cute]

I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money. They can use many ways to corrupt the money, especially in sports, because that is big money involved in that business, so they will not let the chance is gone. The public will not know if the referees will be fixing match results as that will be under other people's hands. The referees can only do their job and let the rest will arrange by the corrupt officials.

There are always greedy people who want to get large amounts of money through corruption. Moreover, in the world of sports, there are
so many corruptors. What makes sports so attractive to corruptors, because it is usually related to sports betting which can generate a lot of
money if the result of the match can be arranged. Therefore, until now there are always cases of corruption in the sports world, because
in my opinion corruption is always permanent and it is very difficult to eradicate.