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June 30, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
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Education is a great factor why poverty is still rising; if people are educated enough, they could get away from poverty.
The problem is, education is privileged; it is not free at all. Lack of resources could potentially make you lose interest in anything.
If only the government could provide free education and support, people could help build a better community.
More opportunities will come for the next generation.

Education influenced the way you think and the way you choose to live, without proper one the chance of continuing the cycle from where you belong is very possible, those who are inside third world country mostly lack of proper education.

Most of them are being force to adopt childhood labor since the family needs them, they don't have time to study.

First, they don't have budget to proceed and most of the time the person itself choose not to continue since they've seen the big needs of their family and nature call to stand as early as it is to help and survive.
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Our world has never known a period without poverty, and at once in many countries. Apparently, we will never see this for a number of reasons. First, we are already at least the sixth human civilization on this planet. As soon as people reach a certain technical development, something constantly happens on a global scale and we are thrown back many centuries, or even millennia ago. Secondly, people are constantly waging wars with each other. And where there are wars, there is destruction and hunger. Thirdly, even with the current level of technical development, we have not learned to live in harmony with nature, which leads to numerous cataclysms and climate change, which we are seeing now.
Most likely, we will be able to overcome poverty when one superstate or at least a few friendly states remains on our planet, and science and technology will achieve such progress that we will be able to deliver the necessary chemical elements and their more complex compounds to Earth from near and even deep space that we need. After all, their supply on Earth is constantly being depleted.

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June 30, 2021, 05:40:30 PM
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Education is a great factor why poverty is still rising; if people are educated enough, they could get away from poverty.
The problem is, education is privileged; it is not free at all. Lack of resources could potentially make you lose interest in anything.
If only the government could provide free education and support, people could help build a better community.
More opportunities will come for the next generation.
- Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.


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June 30, 2021, 06:33:49 PM
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Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.

In the developed world, the children (after a particular age) are supposed to help their parents in work. So they may not get enough time to concentrate on their studies. Also, the government run schools may not have enough resources when compared to the private schools. But all that said, if the student has the urge to succeed, then nothing can stop him. There is no guarantee that if you have a good educational background, then you will be super-rich. But at least you can be assured that you will not be in poverty.
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July 01, 2021, 03:14:39 AM
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Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.

In deed, Education is the key to eradicate poverty from society and it needs political will from highest office of government to make education  mandatory up to higher school level  and it has to be free as well. Having said that, the Role of Innovative Institutions is vital important to educate youth for new technologies which create new jobs. China is Role Model for the world who has successfully reduced poverty to almost zero % level despite population of 1.2 Billion people.


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July 01, 2021, 07:57:10 AM
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it is children who come from poor families who have a strong desire to succeed, they are the ones who will become real success. School is important, but life experiences outside will shape people to be able to break the challenges of the world. if we see there are also many people with low education, but they are successful

People with low education levels will be able to become successful. But they will face issues due to their lack of education. So even if they become rich, there is a need to get the necessary education. And age is no bar to get education. I have seen people in their 40s studying for the MBA course in my city. And here the government has also taken out a few programs, to make sure that elderly people who are illiterate get the basic education. The participation rates are low, but those who have attended such programs say that they are very beneficial. 
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July 01, 2021, 09:10:21 AM
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Hunger and poverty is a life balance that cannot be erased because if you imagine that the whole world is rich and enjoys no work no need to create food just lay there and wait who will do it all will starve. Therefore, to balance this, there must be rich people, there must also be poor people and this is the law of life. Hunger and poverty can only be reduced but cannot be completely eliminated.
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July 01, 2021, 10:44:11 AM
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Poverty has been there from the beginning, it something that have been existing with man. If there should be no poverty money  won't have value. If every one should have money who will be in the market place to sell?, Who will be the gardener to cut grasses and take care of the flowers .

One thing I understand life about is that everyone can't get wealth    or rich. You need people to manage your wealth. If everyone should be rich there won't be value in the economy.
And it is not possible for everyone to become rich

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July 01, 2021, 01:00:08 PM
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Hunger and poverty is a life balance that cannot be erased because if you imagine that the whole world is rich and enjoys no work no need to create food just lay there and wait who will do it all will starve. Therefore, to balance this, there must be rich people, there must also be poor people and this is the law of life. Hunger and poverty can only be reduced but cannot be completely eliminated.

The question is about poverty which I think can be eliminated by better balancing this by the government. I also think poverty is not required to balance the life of the world or it is not the law of life.
And who says that rich people do not work or they enjoy no work. Poverty usually hits the people who do not have any work to earn money to feed them.

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What about "systemic poverty"? Let me explain now. Systemic poverty is when the inhabitants of an entire country, at the level of state propaganda, impose the opinion that living well and richly is bad, that wealth (or an average and higher standard of living) is evil? Vivid examples are the USSR, which has sunk into history, the existing North Korea, etc. countries, as a rule, are the heirs of the concept of socialism in the Soviet way.
At the same time, the leaders of such countries, and the top of the government in such countries, always live in a separate isolated world, with a high level of income, immersed in luxury and wealth Smiley
Good point! Soviet Union was trying to make its countries closed and didn't let people to know what was happening in USA, Europe, etc. It was very hard to leave and get out of USSR. People were living poor, didn't have access on technics, TV, Radio, (When someone had, it was a phenomenal moment), there were shit Russian cars, etc. People were living poor life and since they didn't know what was the good life, they were thinking that they were living at their best and didn't have a requirement of a better life. Imagine, if you don't have access to electricity, computers, smartphones, etc. When you don't know these things, you'll never have a requirement of them. This was the life in USSR!

Will there be a world without poverty? There is no way! People are egoists, we all want all the best for ourselves, it's just our nature and it's pretty normal. There will always be someone who will try to achieve more success than someone other and humans will always try to compete against each other.

Someone who lives average life would be considered as the richest at past. Someone called poor right now would be the richest in ancient times. As time goes, the quality of life improves, so the meaning of poor is a little bit developing and probably in 400-500 years, someone called average would be considered poor according to future criterias.

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What about "systemic poverty"? Let me explain now. Systemic poverty is when the inhabitants of an entire country, at the level of state propaganda, impose the opinion that living well and richly is bad, that wealth (or an average and higher standard of living) is evil? Vivid examples are the USSR, which has sunk into history, the existing North Korea, etc. countries, as a rule, are the heirs of the concept of socialism in the Soviet way.
At the same time, the leaders of such countries, and the top of the government in such countries, always live in a separate isolated world, with a high level of income, immersed in luxury and wealth Smiley
Good point! Soviet Union was trying to make its countries closed and didn't let people to know what was happening in USA, Europe, etc. It was very hard to leave and get out of USSR. People were living poor, didn't have access on technics, TV, Radio, (When someone had, it was a phenomenal moment), there were shit Russian cars, etc. People were living poor life and since they didn't know what was the good life, they were thinking that they were living at their best and didn't have a requirement of a better life. Imagine, if you don't have access to electricity, computers, smartphones, etc. When you don't know these things, you'll never have a requirement of them. This was the life in USSR!

Will there be a world without poverty? There is no way! People are egoists, we all want all the best for ourselves, it's just our nature and it's pretty normal. There will always be someone who will try to achieve more success than someone other and humans will always try to compete against each other.

Someone who lives average life would be considered as the richest at past. Someone called poor right now would be the richest in ancient times. As time goes, the quality of life improves, so the meaning of poor is a little bit developing and probably in 400-500 years, someone called average would be considered poor according to future criterias.

I wrote a lot about the USSR, because I was born there and lived there until its collapse Smiley
I will continue on about "systemic poverty". This policy has spawned nearly 250 million people who are really accustomed to working "for food" or for a very small salary. They do not understand why these or those services or goods are, by their standards, UNREASONABLY expensive. I always answered this simply - do it cheaper too, give the market a competitive product, you will make good money. This is where the thinking of the "systemic poor" breaks down, tk. he is not used to creating high-quality and competitive products, he is not used to taking responsibility and taking risks. Trying to explain economic theory or what "added value" is to them is useless. In a word, this is a whole layer of people who not only cannot but do not want to accept other rules of the game, change, and most importantly, change, and what is more sad is that they are absolutely satisfied with a poor life!

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July 03, 2021, 01:48:05 AM
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No. people must be responsible at  a young age. there is no problem with our natural resources but we must know how to use it. Of course, the government has a huge role to guide and support us. Education plays a vital role, everyone should be educated to minimize poverty. Perseverance is the key. Its not easy to end poverty, but we can eradicate it. There are lot of things we can do to help end poverty. Starting a small business is a good idea, it will easily grow if we are responsible enough to manage it. Also, we must make use of our natural resources.

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Different abilities, different opportunities. Some people will seize the opportunity, some people will give up the opportunity. It is the gap between people, so some places in the world are poor and some places are rich. If poverty can be eliminated, it may be necessary to start with technology, such as the current blockchain technology and Bitcoin. I actually agree that this is not only a technological revolution, but also a civilizational change. Bitcoin declares the formality of machine civilization. The arrival can also be called a silicon-based civilization, where robots and artificial intelligence replace productivity and labor, and use smart contracts to build a new trust system. I think poverty will gradually die out, and the distribution of wealth will gradually become evener, at least not as the current polarization gap is greater. The greater the coming, and the richer and richer people’s spiritual world
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July 03, 2021, 03:43:44 AM
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If there were no poor people, the world would lose productivity. Everyone is not short of money, and half of the jobs in the world will disappear. Such as nanny, worker, cleaning, catering service staff, farmer and other positions that suffer from industry discrimination. A world without the poor is a beautiful utopia. Once it becomes a reality and the poor become rich, it will break the balance of mutual restraint and mutual dependence between the rich and the poor. If things go on like this, more serious social conflicts will erupt, so I think Fundamentally speaking, it is impossible to have the poor. The society needs people of different levels. I do not discriminate against the poor, but I think the world still needs some gaps so that this society can function better.
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July 03, 2021, 08:28:20 AM
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the UN is expected to adopt the World Bank's ambitious target of ending extreme poverty by 2030.
It would mean that for the first time, everyone in the world would able to afford a refrigerator and other goods that would make life a bit easier.
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July 03, 2021, 08:58:56 AM
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If there were no poor people, the world would lose productivity.  ~snip~

I totally agree with it. I don't like to see poor people of course. Who would want to live like that if he/she had a choice? But this is the rule of the nature I think. Poor people constitute an important part of the economy with their work. If they didn't exist, many sectors would die by now.

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July 03, 2021, 09:21:56 AM
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There will definitely be poor people in the world, but many places are now implementing poverty alleviation policies, but if the income of the rich and the poor is the same as their lives, it will take a long time. The rich have the advantages of the rich, but so do the poor. The poor do not necessarily understand the lifestyle of the rich, and the rich do not necessarily understand the self-satisfaction of the poor. The world itself is unfair, but poverty will gradually decrease. No matter what kind of people we are, just enjoy life.
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July 03, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
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We will always see poor people existing I think. The era we live in will change but not the balance of the world. Helping all of the people in the world get rid of the poverty means that many jobs will just disappear. And it will cause some problems in the country.

But I really wonder what will happen after robots start taking many jobs which people are doing now. I wonder if there would still be poverty among people.

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July 03, 2021, 10:21:45 AM
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It all happens naturally how a person faces the world with the various things they can do, and also actually this is influenced by the people themselves, their thoughts and efforts affect their economic life.
It is different if the state government really cares about its people by providing many job opportunities/business capital, perhaps the poverty rate will continue to decline from time to time until the people are able to continue to develop.
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July 03, 2021, 11:59:39 AM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
some say that poverty is made by capitalists, I'm sure that's because if everyone is rich then there is no human power they can use to help their business stay up

everyone can be rich if they are willing to learn, open-minded, and receptive to new things
being poor is a mindset, not destiny because thousands of super-rich people today, on average, come from poor families and drop out of school

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