Stainless steel Bitcoin Recovery Seed Plate

Recovery Seed BTC Plate

Facts
- Stainless steel 100 x 100 x 4 millimeters in noble and simple design (also in 6mm possible)
- Front and side areas very finely ground
- Protect your Recovery Seed from water, fire, corrosion, mechanical damage and other hazards
- Protect your seed additionally against unauthorized access or robbery with BIP38 / BIP39
- Can be used for a 12 or 24 word seed (backside is not polished but can also be engraved / lasered)
- Convinces by very nice haptics, stability, robustness and the high-quality stainless steel material
- Plate, Hammer and Marker are precisely engraved with a laser (see pictures)
- Bulletproof from Jameson Lopp --> https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/willi-recovery-seed-plate/

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Price and order form (copy the template into a PM)
[ 0 ] 1x Recovery Seed BTC Plate 12 words one side $27 (4mm)
[ 0 ] 1x Recovery Seed BTC Plate 24 words both side $30 (4mm)
[ 0 ] 1x Recovery Seed BTC Plate 12 words one side $29 (6mm)
[ 0 ] 1x Recovery Seed BTC Plate 24 words both side $32 (6mm)
[ 0 ] 1x Hammer and Marker $19
[ 0 ] 1x Set price (Recovery Plate, Hammer and Marker) 4mm version $40
[ 0 ] 1x Set price (Recovery Plate, Hammer and Marker) 6mm version $42
[ 0 ] 1x Additional text around the seed field as individualization $5
[ 1 ] Shipping depending on country --> need your address

Seed information
Each seed word can be uniquely identified by its first 4 letters, so 4 letters per seed word is all you need. Please mark the first 4 letters of each of your 12 seed words to keep your Bitcoin seed safe.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

Distribute the seed over several plates:
Here's Sam00's idea, here you spread your seed over 3 plates and hide each one separately, and if one is found by an unauthorized person, everything is still safe since you need two out of three plates.

Plate 1: words 1-8 and 17-24
Plate 2: Words 9-15 and 17-24
Plate 3: Words 1-8 and 9-15

Any questions, please ask me per PM

Best Regards from Germany
Willi

My new favorite hammer!!

How much for 1 full set and 1 extra plate.

Shipped to USA.

Quote from: philipma1957 on March 31, 2021, 02:24:41 PM

How much for 1 full set and 1 extra plate.

Shipped to USA.

Hi philipma1957,

no problem.

1x Set (Seed Plate, HODL Hammer and HODL Marker) 40 EUR
1x Seed Plate extra 27 EUR
1x Shipping 16 EUR (without tracking number. DHL shipping with tracking number cost 38 EUR)

83 EUR ~ 97,50 USD

Address and Payment than over PM.

Best Regards,
Willi

Allright I feel kind of dumb but... I can't figure out how to use it to store a seed phrase

Quote from: MagicOyster on April 07, 2021, 07:52:20 PM

Allright I feel kind of dumb but... I can't figure out how to use it to store a seed phrase

Seed information
Each seed word can be uniquely identified by its first 4 letters, so 4 letters per seed word is all you need. Please mark the first 4 letters of each of your 12 seed words to keep your Bitcoin seed safe. if you have a 24 word seed, you need two plates.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

Do you give discounts for bulk orders?

Quote from: kulboi123 on April 10, 2021, 06:43:05 AM

Do you give discounts for bulk orders?

Yes, please contact me per PM.

the Seed Plate is now also in the 1-24 version available

Quote from: kulboi123 on April 10, 2021, 06:43:05 AM

Do you give discounts for bulk orders?

i send you a PM and ask for more details of a possible bulk order

also in 6mm plate version

Get the topic back into the top of the topic and a short hint to save shipping cost. a hint to my solid Bitcoin coin ...

40mm x 3mm 30g Bitcoin Coin (loadable and customizable coin)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382457.0

Best Regards,
Willi

Quote from: willi9974 on March 22, 2022, 02:27:09 PM

Get the topic back into the top of the topic and a short hint to save shipping cost. a hint to my solid Bitcoin coin ...

Stainless Steel is super cool metal for backing up seed phrase, but I don't like the idea of combining words and letters in grid system for seed words.
Much cheaper alternative for this is using stainless steel washers, that become my personal favorite and other members in forum created additional tools and instructions for that.
Back on your plate, I have a question, did you send it for extreme testing to Jameson Lopp, to see if it will survive and what rating it has? Wink

https://blog.lopp.net/tag/cold-storage/
https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

Hasn't been tested there yet, but it's a good idea and can be done.
In my opinion, however, the Seed Plate should do very well here, because stainless steel in the thickness should be very resistant.

Best regards,
Willi

Quote from: willi9974 on March 27, 2022, 08:47:01 PM

Hasn't been tested there yet, but it's a good idea and can be done.
In my opinion, however, the Seed Plate should do very well here, because stainless steel in the thickness should be very resistant.

If nothing else, sending it to Lopp for testing would certainly bring more attention to your stainless steel plate, and who knows maybe it gets rated high on the table.
He was testing all of them for corrosion, crush test, heat, price and gives them overall rating.
Not all stainless steel are equal, and more thickness is better for sure Wink

PS
Let us know if you decide to send him plate for testing, I would love to read review.

are in contact and have the address to ship the plate for testing.
if i have in den next 2-3 weeks time for that, i will create a test plate and send it to him for a test / review.

i'm also interestet to the result of that kind of test.

best regards,
Willi

I'll start with questions:
- How is the text printed on the plate?
- Can text be erased?

Your business model is ideal for the lazy, and for the rest I can offer a cheap version.

Hammer and marker can buy at any hardware store (or look in your toolbox). I don't think that a piece of this inox plate will also be difficult to find. It is unlikely that you will be able to find the right size in the store, but in principle it is possible to find it (or cut it to the right size on your own).

Instead of putting text on the plate, can use a stencil (template) containing numbers, letters, cells as on your metall plate. Apply a stencil on top of the plate and make marks, after which remove the stencil and get a clean plate with dots in a chaotic manner. Try to understand and guess what the dots on the sheet of metal mean. If still violate the order of the letters on the stencil, it will be almost impossible to decipher the info.

If use a stencil instead of printed text, this will increase the security of storing information from unauthorized persons.

Something like this, but instead of this drawing, draw your table with cells, letters and numbers.

But the stencil creates an additional weak point: need to save it (loss is fraught with bad consequences forever) and save it from others (it’s not critical without a plate). I think even storage on your PC is possible (can print it when you need it), because it will be just a stencil-template, which in itself doesn't carry anything important. Even if it leaks into the network, it is useless without a plate.

In my opinion, the option with pucks seems to me more interesting - Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers. But with a slight correction (saw in your thread): put only the first 4 letters of each word on the washer, which will allow to fit 2 words at once (the first 4 letters of each) on 1 washer. This will reduce the number of washers to 12 (in the case of 24 words) and to 6 (in the case of 12 words). This is appropriate if you strive to reduce the object.

+1 Merit

yes your way is also possible, right but cost a lot of time and some user prefere a good quality plate maybe with a individual mark of the username / a date / or other things on the seed plate. for a simple and safe way, i think the screw and washer is also a good way to go.

Best regards,
Willi

Quote from: willi9974 on April 05, 2022, 08:45:38 AM

Yes, I understand. For each product there will always be a buyer and I am sure that for many it will be easier to buy Seed Plate from you. Not everyone will be able to make it by hand without the necessary skills and tools, but in your case everything is already available.

Quote from: willi9974 on April 05, 2022, 08:45:38 AM

with a individual mark of the username / a date / or other things on the seed plate

Could you tell me by what method the table and symbols are applied to your plate? Is it paint, laser engraving, something else?

My stainless steel plate is engraved with my fiber laser.

Quote from: m2017 on April 04, 2022, 02:55:50 PM

Hammer and marker can buy at any hardware store (or look in your toolbox). I don't think that a piece of this inox plate will also be difficult to find.

I find willi9974 set more a collectible set than something I'd mess with. I may have odd taste, but the plate with the mount, the HOLD Hammer and marker seem to ask to be shown, not hidden away.

If I would ever have good reason to store the seed on steel, I'd probably go for the washers, really. Your setup looks complicated. And complicated usually asks for troubles (in 10 years, not now).