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March 18, 2021, 09:17:30 PM
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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

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It is outrageous to read such behavior, as if this forum is a vent for repeated insults (see its user history https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2461690;sa=showPosts) slander, disrespect are very often invoked.
I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

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March 18, 2021, 09:41:27 PM
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Problem with an inappropriate attitude that is an attack on a person with black skin on Bitcointalk
You're the one who brings up his skin color, Cryptotourist only mentioned his face.
Why do you think (verbal) attacks on Bitcointalk are only allowed to people who don't have a black skin? That seems quite racist Roll Eyes

If I had to guess his profession from his looks, I'd say car seller, not doctor. And if you say you don't judge people by the way they look, I simply don't believe you.

Nor is that post racist to begin with. People reading that post and thinking "it's because he's black" probably are.
People are so sensitive and overly trying to protect others, that they don't even realize their own actions are racist. Not that it matters, the word "racism" is overused anyway.



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It's okay to offended people! Offensive jokes are often funny. Don't let SJW decide what you're allowed to say or even think!

Trying to be nice doesn't hurt you, but don't let someone's made up feelings stop you from speaking your mind.

I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?
People choose to feel offended because they think it gives them special rights. Or snowflake point of some sort.

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March 18, 2021, 11:13:59 PM
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I read it twice. Than three times. Then I read his another post. You know what, it must be you steering up racism stuff, not the guy you quoted. Offended? Grow yourself a pair. Or here's option B: how about a ban on posting people's pictures on the forum so guys like you can't read comments below and claim these comments are racist. Ridiculous? Well, exactly.
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March 19, 2021, 12:47:30 AM
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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.
Stop arguing because you can't encourage people to support your perception in judging a piece of writing that is labeled freedom of expression. You can do this yourself if needed. Check out this option.

  • You know what the "report to moderator" button does, right? Report the post to a moderator for follow up and include a little bit of information about it.
  • You know what a "trust system" does, right? Open your trust setting and enter the person as someone you don't trust with an "~".

Both action are easy enough for you to do, I guess you just need to stop arguing that will only end in vain. The logic is that you shouldn't always resort to feeling when someone doesn't like something they don't like. He is free to give judgment, freedom of expression, free speech and you just have to take the middle ground and you are free to ignore it.

Now what would you say, would you also say I racist you just because I don't support your perception ?

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March 19, 2021, 01:01:49 AM
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  • You know what the "report to moderator" button does, right? Report the post to a moderator for follow up and include a little bit of information about it.
  • You know what a "trust system" does, right? Open your trust setting and enter the person as someone you don't trust with an "~".
If @kna does not know or does not use Report to moderator or Trust system well, two topics are helpful for him.

- Report to moderator: [Unofficial Guide] Reporting effectively
- Trust system: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

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March 19, 2021, 01:33:24 AM
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Just an attempt by OP to silence opposition.

OP has several accounts banned for plagiarism and when he's not copy/pasting Coingeek articles into the BSV thread he engages in petty personal squabbles with BSV's critics.

His temper has gotten him in trouble several times before:

Tough guy lol !

Well, my word is that I delivered 8 translations. unpaid. I just want to be paid. what do you do if you work for a guy who finally does not pay you? personally I break teeth.

He even forgot to remove this from one of his translations lol (means "translated using...")



Probably the alt account of this guy :

Kna


He got busted doing fake translations before this:

I don't understand why are you asking for 2000? Your threads are shit.

@plimo my discussions are as they are! if you are not happy, ignore me. return suck your droppings and let the adults work. I am not your friend.

You are pretty scammer - just took a look on your translation thread to polish -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2784827.new#new
even one word is not in polish, just the topic translated by google, shame on you please.

There's no direct blockchain evidence that kna is linked to a dozen or so other accounts that all post the same copy/paste gibberish in the same threads (BSV, CloakCoin), but you can tell they are the same from their use of big, colored fonts, and of course, their combined lack of a single independent thought.





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March 19, 2021, 02:07:55 AM
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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

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It is outrageous to read such behavior, as if this forum is a vent for repeated insults (see its user history https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2461690;sa=showPosts) slander, disrespect are very often invoked.
I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

Everyone reacts differently, its his freedom too but as they suggest get yourself used to it.

If you find it offensive then attacking back is an option for you kna, you don't get an apology here by saying it's racism when the guy just doesn't express clearly what he just say. He must have doubt he is a doctor and I mean looks could be deceiving we all know that.

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March 19, 2021, 07:29:56 AM
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I agree with Loyce, it's how we perceive things that makes up our side of the story, a person has more identity than just his skin color or religion and criticising a person always doesn't mean insulting his skin color or faith or anything, a person can be insulted for any number of reason and identities and it's upto us how we look at it. Plus, if something really offends you, it's better to just ignore than to feed on it as it will only mentally torture you, none harms the offender.
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Problem with an inappropriate attitude that is an attack on a person with black skin on Bitcointalk



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4985868.msg56585510#msg56585510

What do you think? What can the moderators do here? Ban him this user?






Lol thanks that was funny.

Are you sure you're not a racist?

Why would you assume the negative comment there refers to his skin color?

It's very racist that you make such an assumption. Do you view black skin as a negative?  Is his race a negative for you?

Mods should ban you because I suspect you're a closet racist and you want to be held to your own standards I'm sure.

Now that you've outted yourself as a racist and as a hater of free speech. You should held to your own standards and banned.

If he thinks that guys face is an unlikely candidate for a phd then that is his opinion. Maybe be hes an expert in correlating facial maps to IQ?  

I mean to you personally gibbons may appear super smart. That's your opinion and I dont care about it really. Since you're clearly a moron.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion until it encourages and promotes actual harm to another.

The only strong argument for racism is the racism you're inadvertently demonstrating.  

Sick and tired of the racism claims to prevent any opinion being voiced.

He thinks the guy doesn't look like a doctor ....that's fine. Let him think what he wants.
If he was white and the same comment was voiced. Would you claim racism? If not think about that.   
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March 25, 2021, 02:29:36 PM
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What do you think? What can the moderators do here? Ban him this user?

Eh, just look what you started:

^. That face ...... is a ....... doctor? Roll Eyes

Good luck tracking your assholes, yo.
What's your problem @Cryptotourist! Because this doctor has black skin? Do you realize how disgusting your attitude is?

(((Blockstream))) seems kind of Jewish to me.  I mean, some of the people there look very Jewy.  And (((Segwit))) is basically a Jew accounting trick that counts big blocks as small blocks, and underweights certain bytes for fee calculations; it is just like how a Jew accountant makes numbers shrink to help you save on taxes.

Do you have a problem with that!?  Do you realize how disgusting your attitude is?!?!?

BSV IS ANTISEMITIC!!  I DEMAND THAT IT MUST BE BANED FROM TEH INTERNETS!!!!!

My proof that you and your cronies are antisemitic is at least good as your proof that Cryptotourist is racist.  Accordingly, please promptly disconnect yourself from the Internet, and turn yourself in to the hate speech police.



Too many people are caught up in a misdirection:  Dissecting what Cryptotourist really meant, or whether kna is “the real racist” for reading his own racism into what Cryptotourist said, etc.

That is how such creatures as kna lead you down the garden path...  Don’t let kna frame the argument.  Question the premises!

This Meta thread is utterly moronic, because this forum has no policy of banning people for (real or imaginary) racist statements.  And nobody has pointed out that this is completely wrong:

Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

WRONG.  Racist speech is not illegal in the United States; it is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Although Americans are lamentably fat, and their country is horrible, they have two good features:  Their First Amendment, and their Second Amendment.  That First Amendment makes the U.S. a pretty good place for hosting websites that allow a diverse range of opinions.

This website is operated from, and physically located in, the jurisdiction of the United States.  Therefore, please feel free to kindly fuck off with your Craig Wright tier mentally retarded pseudolegal nonsense.


Quoted out of context because it’s funnier this way:
Are you sure you're not a racist?

No.  Actually, I am quite racist.  I think that white people are a genetically defective inferior race.  The proof is that they are cowards who fear being called racist; and they fear it so much that they will give away their money, their countries, and their children to avoid it.  They also have inferior logical reasoning skills, so they cannot understand how stupid this is.  I am glad that I am not white, so I do not share their racial defects.

Any other questions?  Smiley

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March 26, 2021, 07:49:30 AM
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@kna, your master should have used a short leash on you girl!

Actually, you can also take it as the user is referring the profile created for the project is fake because most of the projects works in that way but only the user who commented on that can give on what context he posted a comment like that.

I did. Nigerian Prince look. Maybe I should have used C&C look. It's the same look, and they're white, and my favorite SV scammer would not have been insulted.
Wait, he wasn't, he's too thick. He just saw an angle and decided to exploit it.


Perhaps it's because the guy really looks like an imbecile, perhaps because he thinks the vaccination program is just propaganda, who knows. You're the one who started to think about black.

Thanks, finally. Total imbecile, and/or shitty "doctor" - much like the other "doctor".


It is not actually a racism but a pure bully and judgemental act of that user.

I do take pride in that. Call me an SV bully, yo. Grin



This thread got my attention only last night. I don't wonder off around the forum anymore, and rather post only in a few threads.

Please be kind to kna. He is special. Kiss



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March 26, 2021, 08:29:14 AM
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I myself have always thought that “Dr” Craig Wright does not have a “Dr” look.  Is it racist of me to notice that he looks like a two-bit sleazy grifter?

Check out the facial physiognomy of “Dr” Faketoshi and his weasel-faced retinue:

Doctor Craig Satoshi
fresh-scrubbed and dolled up as best he can manage,
showing credentials, looking confident,
surrounded by a retinue (see also):

^. That face ...... is a ....... doctor? Roll Eyes

Forget about “Dr”.  Would you buy a used car from someone who looks like that!?



My such observation may be racist, because Craig Wright is Australian.  Thus, he is the probably the descendant of some thieves and scammers who were sentenced to “transportation”, way back when Australia was a penal colony.  Think about it:  His ancestors may have been involuntarily relocated across the oceans to another continent, kept in chains, used for labour.

kna, am I racist against Australians?  I don’t hate Australians—not all of them!  There are some good ones—well, theoretically, I guess there may be some good ones.  And they are not as bad as Americans, who descend a very long way from the misfit dregs of all Europe.

Will thermos now bane me for offence to Aussies and/or fat, stupid, uncultured, abysmally degenerate Muricans?  Cry

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June 10, 2021, 01:51:50 PM
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Racism is not against the forum rules. I don't know anybody that got banned for being racist yet. If you don't like to read a particular person, you can always put him/her on your ignore list.

Grow a thicker shell.




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June 10, 2021, 04:13:17 PM
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She is a doctor, but to me that is not the face and body I have in my mind when I think of health, fitness, or nutrition.
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Maybe she is a terrific physician and looks the way she does due to health problems, but my first impression wouldn't be this is a doctor and health enthusiast. 
Sorry I missed your post and only saw it now that this thread got bumped.  I've seen doctors who smoke and one who weighs over 400lbs.  You don't have to be a "health enthusiast" in order to be an effective physician, though I would admit that being severely overweight doesn't exactly set a great example for patients. 

Santosh didn't created it for a particular race
Ah, it got bumped by a complete shitposter.  Makes sense now.

Grow a thicker shell.
That should be stickied on every single page on bitcointalk--along with a bitcoin price ticker.  Maybe with the new forum software; I'm sure Theymos is hard at work implementing all of that.

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Racism is not against the forum rules. I don't know anybody that got banned for being racist yet. If you don't like to read a particular person, you can always put him/her on your ignore list.

Grow a thicker shell.
That's right, because racism doesn't violate forum rule, it is certain that there is a possibility that it will hit the heart of men or women who don't have Captain America's shield. LOL

Forums do not act to prevent racism from happening to certain individual because this is not the same court as in the real world. I think ignoring certain users who are being racist is enough to solve this problem for the OP.

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June 10, 2021, 09:59:15 PM
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People now are so sensitive and get offended so easy. Sometimes even if you say something without any bad intentions, someone still can get offended.
I don't see racism in that post. Is it not allowed to say something bad about person just because he is black? If someone would said same thing about white or Asian guy, probably you wouldn't pay attention to such post.
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June 11, 2021, 01:37:35 AM
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Wow that is definitely not okay. Did you report him?

I think the moderators will pick up on this thread and take appropriate actions.

It is 2021, racism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere on this world, online or offline.
In addition to your post, I don't think racism can be possible here on the forum for the fact that everyone in the ecosystem are chatting and no video of oneself or pictures that can tells if a person is white or black.... Conclusively from the above topic , mod can't be applied as a result that racism are not moderated.
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June 11, 2021, 08:25:40 AM
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These days it's actually a fair question to verify who a person is in any given promotion being touted on this Forum.

An image search done by me just now confirms the identity of the person in question:

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Identical image found on this page:  https://www.crunchbase.com/person/chris-gibbons-2 - Archive [1a] [1b]






HOWEVER - asking the question in the form that the OP has identified I feel is not appropriate as the most simple of searches confirms the persons' identity and therefore profession.

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June 14, 2021, 04:13:34 AM
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That was certainly inappropriate but I don't think it was cause he's black.

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June 14, 2021, 07:09:59 PM
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We have seen countless of dramas here especially when you go to the Reputation Board, and these kind of insults has been one of the topics, it's not appropriate  for a ban, as the only thing you can do here is to ignore the guy.

Sad but true.  At least it's easy to ignore that sort of ignorance.  I've seen a lot worse get left unmoderated though.  Considering there's no personal information, doesn't seem to be any lies (just ignorance), and it's happening on forum, the best thing to do is probably ignore the user.  When people start posting personal information, spreading lies, and harassing users both on and off the forum, that's where it becomes an issue with me, and even in that case (Vod) the user never had any action taken against them by the Administration so I am certain nothing will be done here.


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