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March 31, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
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There is no point in crying for a missed opportunity, especially to go back to 2010 when few knew that Bitcoin even existed. I also don't believe that anything can be learned from all this with BTC, only if someone thinks that something new and better than Bitcoin will appear?

Recognizing the right financial opportunity is something few people have a nose for, because if it weren't so, there would be fewer poor people in the world than the rich - and we all know that's not the case. For all those who think BTC has a future, don’t be discouraged by the current price and invest as much as you can afford and you won’t be sorry even if you lose.
Lucky are those who have met bitcoin in their life on the early stage of bitcoin in the market and build their trust in crypto to invest in it and hodl their bitcoin till now because they are definitely gain their profit a 1000x than the amount they purchased bitcoin. But if there might be hodler that hodl their bitcoin from the start till now o bet that they are only few, and especially those who have the capability to adopt and those who are curious about the newest trend technology.

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March 31, 2021, 06:21:36 PM
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The thing is, holding right now could be still decent, but people are expecting the same amount of return and that's the problem.

If you invested 1k into bitcoin 5 years ago, and had 140k today, that means 140x return, in today's prices that means if you invest today it will have to be over 8 million dollars per bitcoin to make the same kind of return. I get that some people like holding, I hold as well and I am not selling (I bought a lot earlier than this current price) but we should also communicate with people and make them realize that the amount of profit we have made can't be made here at all, that's not how finance works and that's not what you should have. We could end up with something more decent, 200k or 300k or even 500k, but not 8 million dollars. This is why I think we should hold, but hold with knowledge that we are no longer capable of making that kind of return.

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March 31, 2021, 10:43:37 PM
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Those who bought on July 2010 probably have sold their Btc when it was priced at $100, those who sold at $1,000 probably was considered as a strong hodler.  And those who bought Btc five years ago probably has sold when It reached a $19,000+ ATH in 2017.
So, I guess a lot of em would be learning the lesson then?

Not hodling means you don't trust Bitcoin even If it has been constantly increasing every year.
That is probably true but the comparison is fair, bitcoin has been the best performing asset during the last decade and even if this is going to slowdown somewhat as the price keeps increasing there is not really any fundamental reason for the price of bitcoin to go down.

The economy is still in bad shape, governments are still trying to solve their credit problem with more credit, the pandemic is still going on and in Europe now we are seeing a third wave, so I think people should prepare themselves as we probably have not seen the best this market has to offer during this year.

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March 31, 2021, 11:08:51 PM
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Trading has a risk and it is otherwise with investing. I bet there is no one who still hold their bitcoin since 2010 ago, they will sell their bitcoin when its price touched $1000, $10.000 or $20.000 because the profit that will get will certainty high.

You can't imagine when you buy bitcoin 2010 ago when its price just $1, by $100 you will have 100 bitcoin it means when bitcoin price touched $1000 you fund will be $100.000, so I don't believe you will still hold it.

As for trading, indeed it is quite risk especially now when many features coming up. Especially using leverage I guess for those who just guessing the market movement will lose their money for a second. So, it is depend on your knowledge to bitcoin, you will get money either from trading or investing if you can manage it.
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April 01, 2021, 09:52:36 AM
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Trading has a risk and it is otherwise with investing. I bet there is no one who still hold their bitcoin since 2010 ago, they will sell their bitcoin when its price touched $1000, $10.000 or $20.000 because the profit that will get will certainty high.

It’s a very easily lost bet, because there are definitely people who haven’t bought or otherwise come into possession of BTC just to profit, for some BTC is much more than buying low and selling high. We can definitely call such people true believers and holders, although we cannot know if they have sold part of their coins anytime from 2009 to the present day.

Here is an example of someone who has been holding coins since 2009, and the message was signed about 10 months ago - watch out with your bets Wink

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The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity.

Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others.

We are all Satoshi"



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April 01, 2021, 10:05:13 AM
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It's funny seeing all these posts about what could/would have happened if you invested x amount and held it to the present. Even worse are the people who post this and use it as justification for why you should follow their stock tips or whatnot.

The truth is that virtually no one has the foresight to say whether or not BTC prices would go up, down, or sideways even in the long run. A rally this big definitely wasn't even in the public consciousness, let alone a remote probability just 10 years ago.

Hindsight is indeed 20/20. But I do agree with the premise that holding is overall a better policy to adopt than to actively trade, although profits of this magnitude are simply never guaranteed.
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April 01, 2021, 10:09:37 AM
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Imagine, $1 invested in Bitcoin in July 2010 is worth $800,000 today.




Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelbatnick/status/1348071853617782784


Look at the value of $1,000 invested in bitcoin five years ago




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A lesson for a lifetime. I learned my lessons, how about you? are you?

There's still a lots of time to think  with how you'll treat this investment venue, with the success like

coming from those early holders, learning from their example  provides a good overview of good possibilities

that you can also achieved that same venture, just add more patience and look clearly with what future will be.
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April 01, 2021, 10:26:27 AM
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the power is not in the hodl but its from the person hodling the coin and this power can be strong or work depending on that hodler . 1st tweet is awesome but it was hard to do because of the amount of time he spend hodling while not tempted on every growth in the price , the second tweet not really due to how high his starting capital  and still waited for 5 years only to earn over 200k profit third tweet is not really accurate because hodling isnt easy .
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April 01, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
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The last drawing in Adam Back's tweet is just hilarious.This is the best comparison between crypto trading and BTC hodling that I have ever seen.
I got 1.25 BTC back in 2015 and I've sold it for 300 dollars.I was expecting that Bitcoin is a bubble and the price will crash back then.I wish I still had this 1.25 BTC in my wallet.My life would have been way better,but it's too late for regrets.
Everyone knows that Bitcoin is the best performing financial asset in the last decades.The sad part is that most of us don't want to HODL Bitcoin for 5 years.

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The last drawing in Adam Back's tweet is just hilarious.This is the best comparison between crypto trading and BTC hodling that I have ever seen.
I got 1.25 BTC back in 2015 and I've sold it for 300 dollars.I was expecting that Bitcoin is a bubble and the price will crash back then.I wish I still had this 1.25 BTC in my wallet.My life would have been way better,but it's too late for regrets.
Everyone knows that Bitcoin is the best performing financial asset in the last decades.The sad part is that most of us don't want to HODL Bitcoin for 5 years.
That is the reality and nobody thinks that Bitcoin will become more valuable multiple times than before.
Just how the market pictured out this time, everyone has learned already and it happens that most of the investors in recent times are eager to hold longer than being a short-term holder.

But it wasn't in perfect timing to start over again this time since the market is so high and that seems a high risk of losing its value someday. If only we could wait for the bullish season to stop, that will be the best chance to start. 

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Not only the power of holding bitcoin but off all coins. Like most people say holder always win, and I also feel the same, I just can feel big profits if I hold my asset, if I just trade it will end with regret, If I'm profits from trade, I will happy for a week or a month but a few months later will regret it
So hold all your assets
"Holding is highly profitable on a long-term" but that's what most of us don't want to follow because of the daily hassle around the bitcoin fluctuation. We all know how dishearteningly is whenever there are dips around bitcoin price, this sometimes made some of us take negative drastic actions that landed us into selling some of our portfolio in the past. Mistakes made with regret before i started holding for profit, since 2010 i have been holding and don't think of selling anytime soon. 
Until now, some are still not strong with the drastic sales, of course their thoughts are very negative and create panic which results in regret.
I remember in a few words from the expert that if you can hold on longer it will make you richer, so indeed that adage always inspires when regret occurs.
Maybe when the price is rising, we always say holding, but it's always different. The fact that when a bearish situation occurs it is always a misunderstanding which must be maintained.

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It is true that holding is the best investment. Without holding, it is hard to get profit in huge amount. So if we want to get profited without doing anything, we should avoid panic sell and hold for a long run.

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This thread is motivation to all people around the world who still don't trust the power of holding. Many people still choose to become traders rather than holders, even with so many facts that holders always wins, but they still cant become a holder. I think many people less patience, this is the main culprit
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Yeah I think everyone wished they just held all along the way and didn't trade.  Stacking sats slowly was definately the best play all along.  Never a bad time to change courses so better hodl now and not be dissapointed once 6 figures is breached.

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April 01, 2021, 10:08:29 PM
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This thread is motivation to all people around the world who still don't trust the power of holding. Many people still choose to become traders rather than holders, even with so many facts that holders always wins, but they still cant become a holder. I think many people less patience, this is the main culprit
That is really a mirroring of what we do in the past years but that is how we choose to sell it because, in the first place, we haven't to know yet that this will happen. Can't see it in the crystal ball and that is why people will sell their Bitcoin when they feel it was the best price to make a good profit. There is no problem with that and even we take this as a lesson for us but can't tell that everyone will not do the hold because I know that not all have that kind of market perceptions and selling still visible.

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This thread is motivation to all people around the world who still don't trust the power of holding. Many people still choose to become traders rather than holders, even with so many facts that holders always wins, but they still cant become a holder. I think many people less patience, this is the main culprit
Well we cannot blame some other people that they really wanted to trade than to hold, because holding is really simple in saying but in reality it is really hard to do.  Imagine you hold bitcoin from year 2010 till 2021 that was really a very long time, so if you re in crypto you need patience.

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Imagine, $1 invested in Bitcoin in July 2010 is worth $800,000 today.




Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelbatnick/status/1348071853617782784


Look at the value of $1,000 invested in bitcoin five years ago




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A lesson for a lifetime. I learned my lessons, how about you? are you?
you have learned your lesson now because the price is still stronger in 50,000 level , But the best thing to learn is when the price drops down to 4 digits again.

Lets see if you can still tell us about the lesson you learned .

those who has Actively telling about what they learned now but when the price starts to dump they are the first one to sell off.

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This thread is motivation to all people around the world who still don't trust the power of holding. Many people still choose to become traders rather than holders, even with so many facts that holders always wins, but they still cant become a holder. I think many people less patience, this is the main culprit
Well we cannot blame some other people that they really wanted to trade than to hold, because holding is really simple in saying but in reality it is really hard to do.  Imagine you hold bitcoin from year 2010 till 2021 that was really a very long time, so if you re in crypto you need patience.

Become a holder is not easy, especially for smallholders, because they need to calm down and not panic, especially if the price is up and down many times. But if they can hold their emotion and wait for more or leave the market after they bought, they can prevent panic.

So if you decide to become a holder, you need to stay calm and don't think much about the bitcoin price fluctuation because that always happens to the bitcoin price. If you have more skills, you can try to increase your bitcoin amount from trading because that is the way that you can do to earn more satoshi.
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Become a holder is not easy, especially for smallholders, because they need to calm down and not panic, especially if the price is up and down many times. But if they can hold their emotion and wait for more or leave the market after they bought, they can prevent panic.

So if you decide to become a holder, you need to stay calm and don't think much about the bitcoin price fluctuation because that always happens to the bitcoin price. If you have more skills, you can try to increase your bitcoin amount from trading because that is the way that you can do to earn more satoshi.
Having a billion dollars in crypto is a huge deal for Tesla, if you think that they are not worried about it you are crazy, it is a lot of money, can you imagine how much more business they could do with that? Instead they are keeping it on bitcoin and yes they did make some profit from it but they may have failed as well, so they are very lucky with this situation.

It is the same as anyone that has very little amount of money but invests anyway, because at the end of the day if you are not sure about what you are doing, you will feel panic but if you know what you are doing and trust your investment that means you have nothing to worry about. Obviously speaking we are not in anywhere near those 1+ billion dollar levels but we do not need to be there to actually understand what those people are feeling because everyone has their own investment worth to them.

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To give you an actual example, I've been participating in campaign signatures ever since I joined this forum last 2017. Unfortunately, I have spend most of my earnings to purchase academic books for my studies.

When I stumbled upon my blockchain transaction, I saw that since 2017, I have garnered at least around 0.8 btc overall from all of my campaign earnings. If I did not spend any of those BTCs, its value today should have been around $50,000+ as compared to its value before which was less than $10,000.

That is why, I highly suggest to HODL your bitcoins and wait until you desperately need some money, then that will be the time that you would cash them out.

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