My account was stolen

[skyline247]

I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059435.msg20576006#msg20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

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[JeromeTash]

It's been almost over a year since the TheRealRazick came here to claim ownership of the account. Where were you for all that long?

I am not sure if you will be able to recover the account, but if there is proof that the owner defaulted the loan then the best thing to do is to create flags and leave some negative feedback on the profile

As of today accounts are not considered as collateral which means you might be granted the rights of ownership of the account

[coinlocket$]

The 1st step is to have your account back.

Here you go, follow this guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0

[shahzadafzal]

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

Well sorry to tell you someone name onnz423 already answered your question four years ago in the same thread on August 03, 2017, 01:03:48 PM

Sorry but...are you joking or what?
Where is the .01BTC that you say that you send,because i don't see any transaction...

BTW...75% interest??? OMG!!!

He asked for 0.16 BTC in private - I sent in 2 transactions of 0.08 as he requested.

Yeah for sure he did, on the lending section signed messages, repayment addresses and such should be public.
Also if you really did lend him that amount, well then your money is gone, sorry to tell you that.
I don't see anyone coming back for account with negative trust, because it cannot join with most of campaigns so i would not say your lending service started on the  best kind of light.

[skyline247]

It's been almost over a year since the TheRealRazick came here to claim ownership of the account. Where were you for all that long?

What does it matter?

As of today accounts are not considered as collateral which means you might be granted the rights of ownership of the account

It was when i obtained it.

The 1st step is to have your account back.

Here you go, follow this guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0

Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

[Findingnemo]

^ Recoveries might work only if the real owner wants it to be back and you can consider that it is your account anymore since someone proved the ownership but the user can get the red tag for defaulting your loan then the account will be useless in this forum anymore.

[alanst]

Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

I think the answer was clear enough. Our aim is to always provide the accounts back to their original owners. So if a user goes through the recovery process successfully and proves that he is the account creator, the account is returned to them.

[JeromeTash]

What does it matter?

It matters because while you were absent. He easily managed to recover the account minus any objection from you.

It was when i obtained it.

The time you obtained the account doesn't really matter. The recovery procedure is pretty much strict and one of the most important requirements is writing to them using an original email the account was used for registration.

[nakamura12]

If you can't get your account back then you might have do this one which is go to profile  and send a negative feedback and provide the proof that you own the account so that scammer as you have claim won't be able to use that account for signature campaigns and will most likely won't be trusted by anyone. The feedback should be clear that you are the owner and of course the proof too. Just a suggestion though.

[skyline247]

Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

I think the answer was clear enough. Our aim is to always provide the accounts back to their original owners. So if a user goes through the recovery process successfully and proves that he is the account creator, the account is returned to them.

It's my account, it doesn't belong to the original owner, they tricked the mods. You have no point.

What does it matter?

It matters because while you were absent. He easily managed to recover the account minus any objection from you.

It was when i obtained it.

The time you obtained the account doesn't really matter. The recovery procedure is pretty much strict and one of the most important requirements is writing to them using an original email the account was used for registration.

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

[Caross]

Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account  because you  are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery.  If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

[JeromeTash]

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

Good luck recovering it minus the original email address.

Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account  because you  are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery.  If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

Or he should just create a thread in the reputations board showing that the original owner of the account defaulted a loan and therefore the account should be tagged because I don't think he will get the account back.

He's too stubborn to accept the fact, but time will tell.

[skyline247]

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

Good luck recovering it minus the original email address.

Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account  because you  are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery.  If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

Or he should just create a thread in the reputations board showing that the original owner of the account defaulted a loan and therefore the account should be tagged because I don't think he will get the account back.

He's too stubborn to accept the fact, but time will tell.

Or you could keep ignoring the fact that the account is clearly mine, there is proof that it is mine, and therefore it should be returned to me.

[dkbit98]

I am not exactly sure what happened here, but what about other accounts connected with Razick account, including your account skyline247?
Looks to me there is no doubt that all of them are part of some farming accounts participated in same Jetwin sig campaign back in 2017, and there are probably more of them connected.
All of them are inactive and you recently woke up from your sleep.

Your campaign members are doing quite a bit of spamming around the gambling forums.

I did a little investigating and have linked at least nine members to a single wallet: [08b5cea580]

Paecga129	15BV2ZVPSiocgP2hdUGXm6QGp4Nt4VLFrR	https://archive.is/i50Hr	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881988
Razick	19Y8hTaXqwkoxpd4JQAxNFj9Zj2SpHV85X	https://archive.is/5eGt4	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=75386
skyline247	1FZVJsSkCGbnr2n7kkCsaGVhuTpidZZ4YR	https://archive.is/o3fHf	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=410526
NewBet	13c2erN8XpdWUJYLWa7ft9HhVqDhnUBMCg	https://archive.is/FJPSl	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=706821
bitcoinmaniac52	19LW2Lg5SvufaV45hda1nr7C5sBsXNyBco	https://archive.is/AXJGR	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=408203
craZyLovE0916	1GzCJnu2MTw4RyHXESHxcGdTsMrPDVPp9n	https://archive.is/Mq0Ou	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918137
Kaller	14bsJoYDrhh7QSBXaeLhuW145kF4DvZuSX	https://archive.is/CrBzx	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280
krigger	14BoEWx1qWemcxq4ZFKAbzBBTdqJrQTue8	https://archive.is/neTg7	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=363809
50ouncebrew	1AmS6PCEwYd4gg4tFfqMbxDxWFFFw3pdu1	https://archive.is/WgaMI	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=398462

[decodx]

Or you could keep ignoring the fact that the account is clearly mine, there is proof that it is mine, and therefore it should be returned to me.

Let me get this straight. You claim that the account was stolen from you because you allegedly financed the loan where that account was collateral?

Then how do you explain that both accounts were identified as part of the same account farm and a tagged for cheating in bounty campaigns and spamming (as dkbit98 has already mentioned)?



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=410526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=75386

[GeorgeJohn]

What I have to tell you is that you should let the account go op, and you should forget the account because the time it will take you to recover the account can't be something you will grabbed so easily, instead it will lead you into frustration, because according to information's rendered here that account is linked to the existing account which is the one complaining  or reporting, the mistake has occurred and retrieving or tracing the account is not something that will happen so fast if really you want to move further for  the account, because no evidence that shows that the belong to you for now.

[iamsheikhadil]

I guess these are the reasons why people stopped taking accounts as collateral, after all, an account is just an identity on the forum, and its "monetary" value exists only as long as there are the sig campaigns and bounties... It's useless else (for the account buyer). It's like giving bank my passport as security for loan collaterals should be those whose value exist for as long as human beings live! A better move for you would have been, had you made the account seller sign a message with the same btc address which you told to remove and make him sign that "this account is being given as collateral and is *insert your name's*" then they couldn't even recover it with the staked address had they defaulted the loan.

[skyline247]

I guess these are the reasons why people stopped taking accounts as collateral, after all, an account is just an identity on the forum, and its "monetary" value exists only as long as there are the sig campaigns and bounties... It's useless else (for the account buyer). It's like giving bank my passport as security for loan collaterals should be those whose value exist for as long as human beings live! A better move for you would have been, had you made the account seller sign a message with the same btc address which you told to remove and make him sign that "this account is being given as collateral and is *insert your name's*" then they couldn't even recover it with the staked address had they defaulted the loan.

Regardless of could have, should have, we have proof. The fact we have proof the account is mine negates that he signed the message.

The real question is, why doesn't a mod simply transfer ownership back? Or message the person recovers accounts.

[nutildah]

Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

[skyline247]

Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

Did you see the proof that the account is mine, and think about how it felt last time somebody stole something from you?

Did you ask yourself why you are promoting theft, scams & other degenerative behavior on this forum while trying to act like a hero?

[nutildah]

Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

Did you see the proof that the account is mine, and think about how it felt last time somebody stole something from you?

Did you ask yourself why you are promoting theft, scams & other degenerative behavior on this forum while trying to act like a hero?

The account isn't "yours" in more ways than one. Technically, all accounts belong to theymos who can snuff anybody out on a whim, and they won't have any legal recourse, just as you don't now.

I just asked you the question because it looks like you weren't in control of the account you are currently typing from until very recently.

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked.

Probably should have done this back when you had control of the account.


The real takeaway from all this is that Cryptios weighs ownership of email address as much as staked address when determining whether or not to award somebody control of an account. Which is not unreasonable IMHO.

[Delightcrypto1]

I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059435.msg20576006#msg20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

[decodx]

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

^ Nice work, sherlock!

[skyline247]

I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059435.msg20576006#msg20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

A defaulted loan with proof of the transaction is clear enough proof. It's obvious the account is mine, but also obvious the admin &/ mods don't care, so nothing we can do. What goes around comes around.