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Question: Who thinks those who have requested they be removed permanently of their DT1 status should be removed as Merit Sources?
Yes, removed if they request permanent removal of DT1 ranking
Not sure - something needs to change.
No - the merit sources should stay as is.

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August 26, 2022, 10:47:55 AM
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Try to stay focused on the discussion instead of personal attacks, please.
It would probably help if the topic title wasn't about cute little rodents.

Had to Google the reference, but think it's more likely this meaning of lemming rather than the rodent:

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a person who unthinkingly joins a mass movement, especially a headlong rush to destruction.

Which is ironic, as remembering the game Lemmings (absolute classic), there are always some lemmings that lead the way differently. Doesn't always lead to destruction.

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August 26, 2022, 10:54:02 AM
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think it's more likely this meaning of lemming rather than the rodent
My sarcasm was lost on you Sad

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August 26, 2022, 12:12:39 PM
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I voted Yes! Looks like i'm the only one on a different page.
I appreciate the vote!  It looks like you and I are not the only ones who think the two rankings are indeed intertwined.

The two of you are crazy.
It makes no sense to criticize those who disagree with you because their opinions do not affect your own. It's a vote, and people's opinions vary depending on how they perceive and comprehend the situation.




We could argue that 54 participants are insufficient to draw conclusions about or decide the fate of 3 million forum users, but 70% is far too much. It has been more than a week and nothing has changed yet. I don't think anything would change even if the pool ran for a year.

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August 26, 2022, 09:21:24 PM
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I voted Yes! Looks like i'm the only one on a different page.
I appreciate the vote!  It looks like you and I are not the only ones who think the two rankings are indeed intertwined.
The two of you are crazy.
It makes no sense to criticize those who disagree with you because their opinions do not affect your own. It's a vote, and people's opinions vary depending on how they perceive and comprehend the situation.

My responsive comment was sufficiently backed up, so it does make sense. 

In this case, crazy relates to mostly bad conclusions and bad logic, but sometimes crazy might also relate to wrong understandings of the facts, which it seems that most of the facts are sufficiently understood.. even if some of the facts might be being weighed differently.. for example, it could be argued that you and Timelord believe that the merit system and the trust system is the same thing, and that was part of the reason why I provided the Venn diagram in my subsequent response (within the same post) in order to show that there could be some shared ideas yet the interpretation of the weight of those ideas goes into different directions, in which I am characterizing both yours and Timelord's interpretations of facts through logic and conclusions reached to be crazy.. and the easier (short-hand) way to say that is just to refer to both of you as crazy.... even though it really remains an attack on your ideas not about either of you as a person.. .because maybe each of you are not actually crazy?  perhaps?  there's a chance.

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August 26, 2022, 09:55:28 PM
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The two of you are crazy.
It makes no sense to criticize those who disagree with you because their opinions do not affect your own. It's a vote, and people's opinions vary depending on how they perceive and comprehend the situation.

My responsive comment was sufficiently backed up, so it does make sense.  

In this case, crazy relates to mostly bad conclusions and bad logic, but sometimes crazy might also relate to wrong understandings of the facts, which it seems that most of the facts are sufficiently understood.. even if some of the facts might be being weighed differently.. for example, it could be argued that you and Timelord believe that the merit system and the trust system is the same thing, and that was part of the reason why I provided the Venn diagram in my subsequent response (within the same post) in order to show that there could be some shared ideas yet the interpretation of the weight of those ideas goes into different directions, in which I am characterizing both yours and Timelord's interpretations of facts through logic and conclusions reached to be crazy.. and the easier (short-hand) way to say that is just to refer to both of you as crazy.... even though it really remains an attack on your ideas not about either of you as a person.. .because maybe each of you are not actually crazy?  perhaps?  there's a chance.

I didn't attach any emotions to my statement, and I don't care what you think of me as a person or whether you agree with my vote or not. BTW, there were 8 members who voted for the first option, but you chose to call out only Timelord2067 and I.


Well, the DT and Merit systems are not the same, but being on DT most of the time automatically qualifies you to become a merit source because anyone on DT is trusted enough to do the right thing, so yeah, both systems aren't the same, but they benefit each other..

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August 26, 2022, 10:50:55 PM
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The two of you are crazy.
It makes no sense to criticize those who disagree with you because their opinions do not affect your own. It's a vote, and people's opinions vary depending on how they perceive and comprehend the situation.
My responsive comment was sufficiently backed up, so it does make sense.  

In this case, crazy relates to mostly bad conclusions and bad logic, but sometimes crazy might also relate to wrong understandings of the facts, which it seems that most of the facts are sufficiently understood.. even if some of the facts might be being weighed differently.. for example, it could be argued that you and Timelord believe that the merit system and the trust system is the same thing, and that was part of the reason why I provided the Venn diagram in my subsequent response (within the same post) in order to show that there could be some shared ideas yet the interpretation of the weight of those ideas goes into different directions, in which I am characterizing both yours and Timelord's interpretations of facts through logic and conclusions reached to be crazy.. and the easier (short-hand) way to say that is just to refer to both of you as crazy.... even though it really remains an attack on your ideas not about either of you as a person.. .because maybe each of you are not actually crazy?  perhaps?  there's a chance.
I didn't attach any emotions to my statement, and I don't care what you think of me as a person or whether you agree with my vote or not. BTW, there were 8 members who voted for the first option, but you chose to call out only Timelord2067 and I.

In my original response, Timelord responded to your post, so my responsive post was only addressing the two of you.  Perhaps I could rethink my comment to include the other 6 as well?  hahahaha.. but it might not be as good since I am not sure about who those other six might be, and it really seems like a waste of time.. since I already made my comment and my comment was sufficiently fair and backed up, like I already mentioned.

Well, the DT and Merit systems are not the same, but being on DT most of the time automatically qualifies you to become a merit source because anyone on DT is trusted enough to do the right thing, so yeah, both systems aren't the same, but they benefit each other..

I did not see any source for your comment in which theymos chooses merit sources based on their being trusted or a part of DT.. He did make some comments about his wanting to have merit sources to be fairly well established in the community.. but   really he has discretion regarding the criteria to employ for merit sources, and even if theymos might want to get away from centralized aspects of forum systems - there are likely some difficulties in terms of tweaking any of the systems from time to time.. including the seeming infrequencies that he had made changes to the merit source members, and sure there might be some overlap like I already recognized that point. 

It seems that we are starting to repeat ourselves.. or at least I feel that my comments have already been made and already stand, so I don't really have anything further to add in the direction of the comments that I already made.. even though you seem to want to get me to change my comments and to proclaim that you and/or Timelord are not crazy or that you and/or Timelord are no longer crazy.. hahahahaha  I don't have enough information to change what I had already observed in that direction.   Tongue Tongue Tongue

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August 27, 2022, 06:06:24 AM
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I've got not problem with you calling me crazy for having a different opinion on any given matter.

We express our own thoughts and are respectful of the others' judgement.




Other users who are critical have been belidgerant towards us.

That I don't approve of as it's not voicing an opinion whilst respecting the other person's views.




... And you're right, most people should have cast a vote or voiced an opinion by now.

Thanks to all for your thoughts.

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September 01, 2022, 09:08:45 AM
Last edit: May 15, 2023, 12:42:26 PM by Timelord2067
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Looks as though one person has changed their mind about jumping off of the cliff:



Voting still open - vote now.

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