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I have actually read multiple studies where they have stated that conservative are significantly happier than liberals when economic status and multiple factors are equalised.Especially among millennials and Gen Z the difference of opinion and mindset across the aisle has never been greater. How have your experiences been with both of these people and does this hold true around you as well? Please don't make up stories (A sincere request).
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April 01, 2021, 04:05:08 PM |
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Link the studies? I think the younger folks today are all depressed because they use a lot of social media. It's toxic for your mentality.
Maybe conservatives use less social media or watch less TV news? It's easier to be happy when you don't know about all the terrible things going on in the world. Maybe it's a strong tie to their families?
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April 01, 2021, 04:14:51 PM Last edit: April 01, 2021, 04:34:00 PM by franky1 |
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conservatives want to not progress but just live in a status quo. they want to undo laws that hinder the conservative minds.
liberals want things to change dramatically. and will never get the results they want because the changes they seek are too large and take to much time/effort
so yea conservatives will ultimately be 'happy' in times when things are not changing.. the hint is in their name (conserve)
the issue is that conservatives hold back liberals. thus causing liberals to be unhappy.
.. take the constitution conservatives want to live life as if its the 1800's liberals want to use and amend the old laws to allow more freedoms and changes
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April 01, 2021, 04:33:17 PM |
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This doesn't really sound true. For geographic reasons I have to deal with mostly Republicans in my daily business and they seem to be constantly angry about something, immigrants, taxes, anything after LGB..., my haircut, and now recently - even elections. A picture of happy conservatives:
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April 01, 2021, 04:36:05 PM |
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anger is their happy they love causing chaos and damage. thats their happy place.
they dont want new things to change. they dont want liberty. they want to have their small cabin fever clubhouse with big walls bordering them.. thats their happy place
they act like automatons blissfully ignorant about reality and consequence. this blissful empty mindset is their happy. they hate change but are happy to show their hatred for all things they hate
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April 01, 2021, 04:39:03 PM |
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My experience is the exact opposite. Conservatives are pro-guns. Liberals, democrats, socialists and communists are against guns. You are not much of a happy fellow if you like to carry guns don't you agree? I also don't think democrats really happy people neither but they are better at hiding their real emotions. (they are more like the sneaky snake type people)
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April 01, 2021, 05:05:12 PM |
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I have actually read multiple studies where they have stated that conservative are significantly happier than liberals when economic status and multiple factors are equalised.
Please put links to those studies. There are several of us who do not believe what you say. I doubt very much that a relationship can be scientifically established between a political ideology broadly considered (I am neither one nor the other) and the level of happiness.
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April 02, 2021, 12:32:39 PM |
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I have actually read multiple studies where they have stated that conservative are significantly happier than liberals when economic status and multiple factors are equalised.Especially among millennials and Gen Z the difference of opinion and mindset across the aisle has never been greater. How have your experiences been with both of these people and does this hold true around you as well? Please don't make up stories (A sincere request).
I would suggest that people with a conservative or right-wing mentality have a tendency to be motivated largely by self-interest, and have little to zero concern about the conditions and well-being of the wider population. Whereas those with a left-wing mentality, whilst certainly still having a degree of self-interest, want to reduce suffering and inequality across the whole of society (and ideally the world)... and so won't be happy until those problems are resolved. If a study focuses solely on the economic status of the individual being surveyed, then whoever is running the study is missing the point. Bernie Sanders is comparatively wealthy, but is unhappy about the treatment of those less fortunate than himself. Give him a billion dollars, and he'll still have deep concerns about society. Trump is rich and is only unhappy about things that impact himself. Give him a cheeseburger* and he'll be happy. * and the presidency**** and a Twitter account
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April 02, 2021, 01:36:36 PM |
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Why are conservatives happier than liberals in general?is it religion?Exactly - it's religion. In general, you will find way more people with anti-God motivations in life among liberals, even if they don't entirely shun God. And when they shun God, they will shun the Bible, which has the moral directives for living. When you don't live right, your life gets aggitated, or worse. You feel more uncomfortable. In addition, when you shun God, way down deep you know that you are living a lie, because everybody recognizes God way down deep in his/her subconscious. In general, conservatives recognize God. This recognition opens them up to special blessings from God. Jeremiah 9:23,24: 23This is what the Lord says: “Let not the wise boast of their wisdom or the strong boast of their strength or the rich boast of their riches, 24but let the one who boasts boast about this: that they have the understanding to know me, that I am the Lord, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight,” declares the Lord. So we see why Conservatives are generally more happy. They know that the Great One, the Lord God, is the One Who, "exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth," because He delights in these things. I mean, doesn't a person feel more comfortable and happy when he realizes that kindness, justice, and righteousness are directed at him?
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April 02, 2021, 02:54:08 PM |
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I have actually read multiple studies where they have stated that conservative are significantly happier than liberals when economic status and multiple factors are equalised.Especially among millennials and Gen Z the difference of opinion and mindset across the aisle has never been greater. How have your experiences been with both of these people and does this hold true around you as well? Please don't make up stories (A sincere request).
When you don't have to think so much you'll be happier. Simple as that. Constantly having to evaluate your beliefs and living with the fact that there are no absolute truth is taxing. Also most liberals don't have the comfort of trusting that we get to have afterlife. So we make most of this one and it's hard to live with the fact that everything is temporary.
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Conservatives are happier, because they know that the vaccine is causing God to act, and send Jesus back for the Judgement. He'll be here soon, even if it takes 10 years yet. How do we know? The vaccine is causing those to take it, to start mass manufacturing all kinds of mutated-like strains of Covid, Right in their bodies. Then they are spreading these new strains around to everybody. Since vitamins can protect a bit, the vaccine manufacturers are hoping that a strain will appear that is vitamin proof. The ultimate thing that will happen is, the destruction of mankind and nature. But... Jesus will return with God-power to stop it from happening. Watch this video to see how the Chinese used election fraud to get Biden in, because Biden doesn't care. He wants us all to get the super-spreader vaccines. https://cdn.jigg.cloud/ScientificProofTVSpecial-03-31-21-FINALHQ/mp4/ScientificProofTVSpecial-03-31-21-FINALHQ.mp4?fbclid=IwAR2uu09ykp1vAktXpFNVhNe-2s2AK4Ej789IIximuP1yiROJN9YUIMDlE-M
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April 03, 2021, 07:24:14 AM |
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how the Chinese used election fraud to get Biden in, because Biden doesn't care. He wants us all to get the super-spreader vaccines.
FTFY: how the Russians used election fraud to get Trump in, because Trump doesn't care. He wants us all to get the virus. Seriously though, even if you're a Trump supporter, surely you can't argue that he was a unifying force? He was (and still is) incredibly divisive. Trump in office weakens the US partly through his isolationism and removal of the US as the dominant player in global politics, and partly through his ability to create internecine conflict within the US itself. The Russians, the Chinese, whoever stands against the US... do not want a bridge-builder like Biden in charge. It is not in their own interests.
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April 03, 2021, 08:35:35 AM |
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how the Chinese used election fraud to get Biden in, because Biden doesn't care. He wants us all to get the super-spreader vaccines.
FTFY: how the Russians used election fraud to get Trump in, because Trump doesn't care. He wants us all to get the virus. Seriously though, even if you're a Trump supporter, surely you can't argue that he was a unifying force? He was (and still is) incredibly divisive. Trump in office weakens the US partly through his isolationism and removal of the US as the dominant player in global politics, and partly through his ability to create internecine conflict within the US itself. The Russians, the Chinese, whoever stands against the US... do not want a bridge-builder like Biden in charge. It is not in their own interests. Of course the Chinese and Russia want Biden in charge. A bridge builder will make concessions, and Biden is not totally with us, so of course the enemies of modern democracy will view the US as a fallible opponent. But who knows, when Kamala Harris takes over, perhaps things might be different. China/Russia might view her as more of a threat.
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April 03, 2021, 04:13:06 PM |
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Of course the Chinese and Russia want Biden in charge. A bridge builder will make concessions
If a nation has ambitions of global hegemony, as China does... then would you want your only opponent to be a) unified and focused and ready to stand against you, or b) distracted and looking inward and fighting itself? This is why China, and any opponent of the US, prefers Trump in charge. See also, for comparison on a smaller scale, Russian intervention in the UK's Brexit vote... if you have ambitions to dominate Europe, then would you prefer the EU to be unified and focused, or would you want to incite division and for Britain to leave?
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April 03, 2021, 06:30:58 PM |
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how the Chinese used election fraud to get Biden in, because Biden doesn't care. He wants us all to get the super-spreader vaccines.
FTFY: how the Russians used election fraud to get Trump in, because Trump doesn't care. He wants us all to get the virus. Seriously though, even if you're a Trump supporter, surely you can't argue that he was a unifying force? He was (and still is) incredibly divisive. Trump in office weakens the US partly through his isolationism and removal of the US as the dominant player in global politics, and partly through his ability to create internecine conflict within the US itself. The Russians, the Chinese, whoever stands against the US... do not want a bridge-builder like Biden in charge. It is not in their own interests. I don't know what Trump wants. At first he didn't want any of us to have the virus. He proved it by promoting HCQ. Then he set up the virus program that Biden is pushing. However, watch this to see that China is where the election fraud came from - https://lindelltv.com/. Watch "Absolute Proof."
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April 04, 2021, 12:33:55 AM |
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Of course the Chinese and Russia want Biden in charge. A bridge builder will make concessions
If a nation has ambitions of global hegemony, as China does... then would you want your only opponent to be a) unified and focused and ready to stand against you, or b) distracted and looking inward and fighting itself? This is why China, and any opponent of the US, prefers Trump in charge. See also, for comparison on a smaller scale, Russian intervention in the UK's Brexit vote... if you have ambitions to dominate Europe, then would you prefer the EU to be unified and focused, or would you want to incite division and for Britain to leave? I think China saw Trump as petty, unhinged, and unstable. Joe Biden is going to make concessions because he's just there as a figure head, not there to push policy. Trump, as big as his ego was, would tweet about foreign policy if he saw China doing something he didn't like. Wasn't was productive, but Joe Biden is barely alive and isn't going to be the one to stand up to China.
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April 04, 2021, 01:21:12 AM |
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I think China saw Trump as petty, unhinged, and unstable. Joe Biden is going to make concessions because he's just there as a figure head, not there to push policy. Trump, as big as his ego was, would tweet about foreign policy if he saw China doing something he didn't like. Wasn't was productive, but Joe Biden is barely alive and isn't going to be the one to stand up to China.
You're making it sound as if Biden's gonna go and stand in Tiananmen square... unlike Trump, he likely has proper staff for doing things. All Trump did "to stand up to China" was taxing Americans with tariffs and lying that China's gonna pay for it so I doubt Biden can do much worse.
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April 04, 2021, 05:33:46 AM |
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Conservatives are happier, because they know that the vaccine is causing God to act, and send Jesus back for the Judgement. He'll be here soon, even if it takes 10 years yet.
No, he won't. Jesus was a flesh and blood human being who died and will never return. And when he doesn't come, you're not going to come around here and admit you were wrong. And no, there is no scientific proof that conservatives are happier, what you say are lucubrations not based on rational arguments. Basing them on the phantom that you believe in does not give them any credibility.
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April 04, 2021, 06:53:13 AM |
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Liberals do fight for what they think is right and they should get that is not yet passed in the law, on the other hand, conservatives have their own specific agenda's, or goal which in the current system is already happening.
So if everything is equalized, I think that liberals will fight for something cause equalizing almost everything doesn't necessarily healthy for everyone. That's maybe why conservatives might be happier because they will be content while the latter will fight.
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All Trump did "to stand up to China" was taxing Americans with tariffs and lying that China's gonna pay for it
Right. He did nothing. He didn't even attempt to build a wall, when there's a perfectly serviceable mid-oceanic ridge literally* staring you in the face. It would be child's play to use this as the foundation for your wall... as I'm sure there's no shortage of underage immigrant aquatic labourers willing to work below minimum wage. What's the deal, Trump? Why no wall? * figuratively
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All Trump did "to stand up to China" was taxing Americans with tariffs and lying that China's gonna pay for it
Right. He did nothing. He didn't even attempt to build a wall, when there's a perfectly serviceable mid-oceanic ridge literally* staring you in the face. It would be child's play to use this as the foundation for your wall... as I'm sure there's no shortage of underage immigrant aquatic labourers willing to work below minimum wage. What's the deal, Trump? Why no wall? https://i.imgur.com/UL0Dvwn.jpg* figurativelyTrump saw to it that the wall was built in Texas - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Trump%27s+wall+in+Texas&t=ffab&ia=web. Because of the election fraud, he wasn't around to complete it.
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A conservative mindet generally entails that you, yourself, are responsible for your own well-being and happiness. In contrast, a liberal tends to believe that society and the state have a duty to take care of them. When you believe you have the obligation to improve your own circumstances, you generally do – hence happier conservatives.
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April 04, 2021, 10:47:34 PM |
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The meanings of the terms for liberals and conservatives have been changing for years, the Trump era brought to light just how twisted up the terms have become.
I am a liberal in the sense of individual freedom and conservative when considering how much government should interfere with the lives of its citizens.
I would be at a Black Lives Matters Protest or standing up for LGBTQ rights before cheerleading any TikiTorch fool whining about their loss of standing in the 'perceived' current hierarchy (which is exactly what it is---a loss of importance in their own personal identity).
No it is not religion, many liberals (in the sense that even you are using) have deep faith, most of them simply lack the hate for gays when practicing their love for God.
During the 2016 election I read The Righteous mind by Jonathan Haidt mostly to buffer how extreme I felt most of my friends were getting on either side. And BTW I may have lost 2 of my closest friends to Q-ness and Trumpism. It's interesting to see right wingers talk about how oppressed they are right now, concerned about getting "canceled" yet continuing to deny that an entire segment of our (American) population have long had this experience.
We need to stand up for each other and stop pretending their are 2 sides---stop allowing ourselves to be divided by 2 parties more interested in perpetuating themselves instead of protecting 'our' framework for freedom.
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April 06, 2021, 03:38:42 PM |
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A conservative mindet generally entails that you, yourself, are responsible for your own well-being and happiness. In contrast, a liberal tends to believe that society and the state have a duty to take care of them. When you believe you have the obligation to improve your own circumstances, you generally do – hence happier conservatives.
Yes i completely agree with you.Liberals expect someone else to help them become more happier.Only you can make you happy,i also i agree with random dude upwards who said that social media is destroying young people minds.You always get this pictures on instagram,facebook etc. of expensive houses,cars and everything else, so young people who cant afford that things tend to go into depression.
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Wow! If we can have computer generated presidents, that means that we can have all kinds of other computer generated things... maybe even computer generated selves. For example. Look through the laws that pertain to people. They all say something like, "No person shall..." do this or that. When you look up the word "person" in their definitions, none of it included men or women. That's because "person" is like computer generated. Of course, if a man or woman accepts that he is a computer generated person, then he/she is one. That's how they get you to fine you with their stupid laws.
Computer-Generated PresidentsTo prepare readers for marvels and innovations, I offer this piece.
Since we live in a virtual age, the image rules. A substitute for the thing itself is acceptable in many venues. If the government can spend $6 trillion it doesn't have to bail out the population from a virus that doesn't exist—$2 trillion more than the cost of World War 2—what ISN'T possible?
I can see CNN leading the way, with this sort of announcement from CEO, Jaspar X Pucker:
"Today—after consultation with our attorneys—we make this legal ruling: Our use of the term 'President' will cover a range of potential meanings. For example, it could mean 'the committee that hovers behind the Occupant of the Oval Office and decides policy, on behalf of which policy the Occupant acts a conduit (to the public)'."
"That would be one meaning. But 'President' could also mean a computer generated image (CGI) of the Oval Office Occupant, when that image delivers what the Occupant WOULD HAVE delivered, were he present."
"Here is our FAQ on the subject":
Would the CGI image of the President have to resemble the President?
Yes. We will render an exact likeness.
CNN could decide when to deploy a CGI image of the President?
Of course. That's the whole point. But we will maintain a close relationship with the committee that hovers behind the Occupant of the Oval Office, to ensure we are accurately presenting official policy.
Is it possible that, in a single instant of time, several CGI Presidents could simultaneously appear in different locations speaking to audiences?
Yes. Getting out the message(s) is the first priority.
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