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April 04, 2021, 05:30:16 AM
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I know of so many who dropped their jobs to take up trading as a life time carrier despite the volatility of the market. A whole lot made hudge fortune from the market. So many made what the have never achieved throughout their life time in office jobs in few trades. Some other set abandoned their jobs and took up a carrier in trading mentorship. This has brought hudge fortune to traders who understand their market analysis at large.

Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case. I ask because I see a whole lot of persons who see trading as gambling and even discourage prospective traders not to venture into such. Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

Most religious bodies still kick against trading with the view that it is a form of gambling that has 60% certainty if traded with caution. But if the certainty is above average then why do we still regard it as gambling?

From: https://www.ig.com/en/cryptocurrency-trading/what-is-cryptocurrency-trading-how-does-it-work

We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.
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April 04, 2021, 06:00:55 AM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.


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April 04, 2021, 07:05:00 AM
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You should check out hedge funds, they're basically traders. There is no need to question whether trading is a job or not, the question should be how good you are when you do it. If you're terrible, then you won't make any money, and you'll probably lose more than you can chew.

If you want to question whether trading is rightly aligned with religious beliefs or not, I think this is not the right place.

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April 04, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
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Trading is not gambling in any form, but it can regarded as risky way money can be gained or lost, that is the similarity trading shares with gambling. But there are many speculative and analytic ways to trade for profits which gambling can not offer, also trading is not about luck while gambling is about luck. If trading is professionally learned and if a trader graduate in knowledge and experience to making profitable trading with patience, these type of traders will be successful. It is not about what any one says, it is about what you have believe in, if people can not provide you money to live in life, if trading is a good way you learned and know, why not trading, but trading is risky. There are many professionals that has nothing doing than trading, and they are making it even than people working under companies.

I do not know about all religions, but I have not seen any religion that against trading, but there are many that against gambling

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April 04, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
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Trading is an occupation when you prefer trading from all of your activities and you have spent much time, knowledge, money, earnestness. You have to take it as a fascination and try to gain skill as a professional. You have to research that and keep learning. If all these things include yourself then trading will be a career for you.

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April 04, 2021, 11:33:09 AM
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I know of so many who dropped their jobs to take up trading as a life time carrier despite the volatility of the market. A whole lot made hudge fortune from the market. So many made what the have never achieved throughout their life time in office jobs in few trades. Some other set abandoned their jobs and took up a carrier in trading mentorship. This has brought hudge fortune to traders who understand their market analysis at large.

Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case. I ask because I see a whole lot of persons who see trading as gambling and even discourage prospective traders not to venture into such. Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

Most religious bodies still kick against trading with the view that it is a form of gambling that has 60% certainty if traded with caution. But if the certainty is above average then why do we still regard it as gambling?

From: https://www.ig.com/en/cryptocurrency-trading/what-is-cryptocurrency-trading-how-does-it-work

We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.
well i would say that if you prefer trading over all other jobs in your life then obviously you will achieve much more as compare to doing office job, trading in my point of view is one of the finest jobs until and unless you are expert in it.
the other thing i should clear to you is that trading and gambling are the two different things as trading is to investment and gambling is to playing, and as far as i know trading is not prohibited in any religion.
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April 04, 2021, 11:40:56 AM
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Trading is an occupation when you prefer trading from all of your activities and you have spent much time, knowledge, money, earnestness. You have to take it as a fascination and try to gain skill as a professional. You have to research that and keep learning. If all these things include yourself then trading will be a career for you.

Trading is an occupation. From the simple meaning of occupation - a job/day job, profession, line of work, career. So trading can be considered an occupation. A lot of people are already into trading even before crypto market is born. Many people are making this as a full-time career opportunity and making it as a living. But you can be a part-time trader or just an occasional trader who is after for additional income.
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April 04, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
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Yes it’s considered an occupation. In this term, occupation doesn’t refer only to someone who has a fixed day job or being the president or head of the company. It can be a career where you can call yourself as a professional trader. This reminds me of a good friend of mine who quits his night shift work last year in order to become a professional cryptocurrency trader, and oh yes, he reaped the rewards despite having difficulties in the first place. 

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I know of so many who dropped their jobs to take up trading as a life time carrier despite the volatility of the market. A whole lot made hudge fortune from the market. So many made what the have never achieved throughout their life time in office jobs in few trades. Some other set abandoned their jobs and took up a carrier in trading mentorship. This has brought hudge fortune to traders who understand their market analysis at large.

Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case. I ask because I see a whole lot of persons who see trading as gambling and even discourage prospective traders not to venture into such. Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

Most religious bodies still kick against trading with the view that it is a form of gambling that has 60% certainty if traded with caution. But if the certainty is above average then why do we still regard it as gambling?

From: https://www.ig.com/en/cryptocurrency-trading/what-is-cryptocurrency-trading-how-does-it-work

We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.

I think there are many people who make trading a profession, but among those people. There are people who work in other jobs, but still have time to trade as their side job.

Actually, it is not easy to take up the profession as a trader. Like any other profession, both skills and experience are needed most of all to get started. Trading too, this profession cannot be done carelessly by everyone, and not everyone can do it. Therefore, preparation is needed, such as knowledge about trade science.

If you dare to start without preparation, then be prepared to take the risks that will occur. Because, all is needed in the process of achievement.
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What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.

Crypto trading is not different than any other trade. Crypto or not the basics are always the same. Buy low, sell high, buy back lower, sell higher and keep doing it every day. You don't necessarily trade only crypto. You can trade anything. WoW gold, toilet papers, stocks, musical instruments, precious metals, computer hardware, automobiles... basically everything.

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April 04, 2021, 01:48:25 PM
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Some of your friends, neighbors are telling the truth and some of them are also telling lies. It only confuses you if will continue to listen them but instead, ask a question to traders who have the experience and see what is their status.

Trading can be called also a profession, but this a special kind of profession. I'm telling that because we can't find it in any schools teaching about trading (correct me if I'm wrong)like other professions, I've never heard it in my school then, but only I saw it someone do the lecture and educate about how trading works in a special event, not in school.

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April 04, 2021, 02:23:09 PM
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I agree that currently unemployment is increasing, especially when the pandemic hits. the increase is very drastic. and these conditions force us to move to jobs that are not controlled by one boss. with crypto trading, everyone is entitled to a special place. Crypto trading is one solution to reduce unemployment in every country. at the same time enhancing the economy of the community.

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Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case.

Yes! In fact, choosing day trading as a career is also one of the greatest option to earn more money than a typical doctor, engineer, software programmer etc.. as long as you know what you are doing. Even though a career in trading does not have any type of certificate or diplomas that signifies you as a trader, however it still requires you to have tons of education similar to these licensed professionals.

But then if you have a good paying day job, and you do some trading as side hustle then that's really just fine though.

Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

I really hate to say this but trading is also a form of gambling but a calculated form of gamble. It is calculated due to the fact that it needs some sort of analytical skills that will determine your edge and increase your probability of winning.

Well, it's really not important to engage on an argumentative discussion that discusses if trading is gambling or not, the answers are vast and is subjective in grand scheme of things. We just can't force our opinion to someone else's throat. What matters to me is the idea that if something works for me it's fine, and if not, just move on and get a life other than trading.

Most religious bodies still kick against trading with the view that it is a form of gambling that has 60% certainty if traded with caution. But if the certainty is above average then why do we still regard it as gambling?

In an atheistic point of view, who cares if the religion says that trading is a form of gambling. They can't control other people's lives and what they do about their money. As long as we do what we think is right, that's fine.

Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.

Either as an alternative or even as career, it doesn't matter as long as you are winning and improving on a daily basis, it's okay Wink

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April 04, 2021, 02:37:15 PM
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Trading is not a job its a profession means skills speaks here than your working hours, you can make few thousand dollars in a minute in crypto trading and also you can lose it as well so more income means more profits.

While talking about people quitting their jobs just because they made some good trades in the recent time is not justified, trading is not a consistent earning way so you need to have some other way of income if you failed in trading to survive.
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April 04, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
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Checking the definition of "occupation" and the meaning behind the word, it's being "occupied" on a job or something. I think it can be applied to being a full-time trader. As long as you will be fully focused and occupied most of your time, it will be okay to consider being able to occupation. Many people would be happy to have that as their occupation if they continuously earn from it.

With the recent happenings in our lives, some even are looking for a gig to survive. Many people would find anything to increase their income and wealth sources, whether in trading or another way.

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April 04, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
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Yes it’s considered an occupation. In this term, occupation doesn’t refer only to someone who has a fixed day job or being the president or head of the company. It can be a career where you can call yourself as a professional trader. This reminds me of a good friend of mine who quits his night shift work last year in order to become a professional cryptocurrency trader, and oh yes, he reaped the rewards despite having difficulties in the first place. 
Yep trading might consider as an occupation but with the use of professionalism. I didn't mean that to become a trader you should first become a professional, professionalism earn while you're on your journey of learning about trading. The rate of unemployment rises due to the pandemic that we have dealing and considering working a full time trader isn't bad since it is much relevant and safe to work inside your home.
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April 04, 2021, 04:33:26 PM
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Hey mate, you say right trading need a experience because without experience about trading we can loose lot of money. I am a trader and I take a trading as a profession. In this trading sector I got lot of money and I am very happy with that.
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Depends on who you ask, some people will say that it is an occupation and some people will say it is way too risky. I am in the middle, I think it could be a profession if you just work for someone else, and you may think "who would hire me to trade for them?" but that is the whole financial market. All those big banks and investment brokers are doing this in wall street, in fact that is the only reason wall street exists, people pay them to use their money to trade.

So yes, in fact trading is a job that you could do and you use others money and trade with it and if you do a great job more and more people will pay you to do the same thing and if you are horrible you would be fired. How you get involved? You study and become one of the best in finance at a top school and you get experience and get a great job and start working in the wall street world for it.

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April 04, 2021, 09:27:20 PM
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Occupation would be considered if you do really go full time with it but if not then it would really be just good as a side job.It does matter on how someone would
treat it out because we do have different perspective when it comes to something.So we would really be expecting different insights and opinions on here
if trading is an occupation but if we do look on a bigger picture then it can really be considered as one but there are people whom do really sees this thing
to be a risky which wont be included on a criteria.All matters on how someone will treat it off.

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April 04, 2021, 09:32:05 PM
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Well, yes that is considered an occupation if you are in day trading or full-time trader --but for me, I cant treat this as an occupation because I cannot able to trade as a day trader. This is a very risky occupation and a sort of gambling that sometimes was based on your luck. I have seen a thread here before asking most likely the same question on this OP, saying, trading is considered a source of income. It is really hard to decide because we have different perspectives view on it. But for me, I rather good if I will find a stable job that provides me a stable income at the end of the month.









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April 04, 2021, 09:59:40 PM
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Here are some words about trading as an occupation.
https://www.investorsunderground.com/when-to-make-the-leap-to-full-time-day-trading/

"For full-time day-traders, trading stocks is a career. This means it requires work – work that entails sitting by the computer for hours a day staring at screens. ... Day trading is one of the few career choices where you are not guaranteed a paycheck, and you may even lose money after investing hours of your time."

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April 04, 2021, 10:21:33 PM
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Since you are sitting in front of your computer and spend hours on trading activity and it needs to work out, I guess we can consider it as an occupation because we also called this as a profession that most choice by people who have great knowledge of trading to have a paycheck at the end of the day. But it doesn't mean there's a guaranteed paycheck right after for your trade activity because this kind of job is quite risky and it will also p[putting in risk your capital or it will end up nothing.

There's nothing wrong I guess if you will choose this kind of professional as long as you have confidence in yourself that you can able to generate profit.

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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.
When people think of a trader they think of a person watching many monitors and many different charts and trying to obtain some profits out of the markets, but the truth is that a trader is anyone that buys a product with the intention of selling it for a higher price later down the road, as such we can safely say that trading has probably existed since humans have exchanged products and services among them.

However we must also remember that they far majority of traders in the history of the world have failed in their desire to obtain more profits and what better example of this than the April fools' day joke that theymos implemented just a few days ago.

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Since you are sitting in front of your computer and spend hours on trading activity and it needs to work out, I guess we can consider it as an occupation because we also called this as a profession that most choice by people who have great knowledge of trading to have a paycheck at the end of the day. But it doesn't mean there's a guaranteed paycheck right after for your trade activity because this kind of job is quite risky and it will also p[putting in risk your capital or it will end up nothing.

There's nothing wrong I guess if you will choose this kind of professional as long as you have confidence in yourself that you can able to generate profit.
Someday if ever I lose my office job, I've found trading is a good place to stay. I'd never find it is totally profiting this time since I was doing it as a part-time job but I know that it really works well and profiting if we focus on this.
Yeah, it is consists of high risk and not everyone meant for this but if we are thinking positive that we can do it better, we surely have to work hard for it.
And with this new generation, the internet era, I could say trading is a good profession and that could possibly make you rich if you are doing this so well.



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If you make a living out of it then it becomes a job or an occupation for you. Just like when you are a basketball player and you become so good at it and then you got recruited by NBA team to join them. You get paid by playing the most enjoyable game of all for you. There is no other thing you do but play.

Trading had been a job for those in Forex and Stock market, long before crypto they were already jobs trading for someone else money.


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Someday if ever I lose my office job, I've found trading is a good place to stay. I'd never find it is totally profiting this time since I was doing it as a part-time job but I know that it really works well and profiting if we focus on this.
Yeah, it is consists of high risk and not everyone meant for this but if we are thinking positive that we can do it better, we surely have to work hard for it.
And with this new generation, the internet era, I could say trading is a good profession and that could possibly make you rich if you are doing this so well.

You just hit the nail on the head. It's the internet Era and the age of the digital economy. I think it's high time that trading should be considered a profession, it doesn't have to be organized like a small trading desk or firm. Like other professions, it involves a substantial amount of risks and also comes with its rewards if done right so it work as a profession to me. I don't know about others but even traders in traditional markets are considered to be practicing the profession. The same can be said about crypto traders whether small or large scale ones.

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And with this new generation, the internet era, I could say trading is a good profession and that could possibly make you rich if you are doing this so well.
I tend to agree, but there's no quick money on trading, it needs more work and research in the beginning and as I say, trading isn't an easy job that you can earn profit and becomes a millionaire within a short period of time.  We're now in the internet era and most people relying on internet activity but you shouldn't hurry and hoping to becomes quickly a millionaire, isn't work like that, if this is your mindset towards trading, forget it.

If you really change your life daily routine and quit your job and switch to a full-time trader, I may advise be a professional and expert at what you do because for now, crypto trading is might be trending as a source of income to anyone who knows technically stuff about trading.  If you want to become a professional it needs for you to have a workload to take time to learn and gain knowledge, without it, it seems your wasting your time in trading and that does not become your occupation.

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In third world countries where the rate of unemployment is very  high a lot of youths took to trading as an occupation I.e both crypto and forex trading, there are some of proportion of the youths who are Gamble's to make end meet.
Trading is an occupation that can conveniently provides alternative source of income for anybody that took it up although it requires a lot of learning, research and practising once equipped with all those requirements such a trader is good to go having been well funded for trading and money management.

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Trading is a process of moving goods and services from one place to another for profit making. Show that trading is an occupation where many traders found their self busy to earn something good at the end of their trade in the market.
Many bitcoin investors are into occupation where they can trade their coins in the market and start expecting something good from the trade that will enable them to be proud of their occupation.

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Trading requires knowledge and time (especially in crypto trading), thus we can consider it as an occupation for spending few hours a day to maximize our chance to earn.

However its not a typical occupation (earning stable job) that we know because it has a risk and losing is always there. This is the reason why not all of us are able to earn in trading or decided to go full time. But if you have the willingness to learn and start in scratch, experience can be the best teacher and a stepping stone to succeed in this field.

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While i Don't consider this as Occupation but I must admit that some of my friends has this as their Job right now.

there are even some of them had quit their real Job and focus in trading , While most of them succeed , but others had failed .

So this depends on our view and knowledge in this field .

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You could say a job, because trading must have full time to continue to dominate the market and analyze the coins to be traded.
the difference is that you live a life that I think is pretty fun, because you don't have to go to the office every day and wake up in the morning stuck in traffic for hours on end.
and being a full time trader will allow you to break free from this modern form of slavery and be able to work any time as long as there is a supported internet connection with your laptop or smartphone you can trade.
and if you make trading a job, you have to be responsible like working and must be supported with adequate knowledge and so on and understand the risks.

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April 05, 2021, 09:23:29 AM
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We know that trading stock is an occupation for some people. And if they see crypto trading, they will think that crypto trading is also an occupation, especially for people who have skills in crypto trading. But before you use crypto trading as an occupation, you need to learn about trading itself and learn how to analyze the market, so you can know where the trend will moves. Doing trading and make a profit needs time, and many people can not resist that and finally, they are losing their money. Think twice if you want to use trading as your occupation because you will need many things to learn before making a profit.

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April 05, 2021, 09:39:34 AM
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Trading can be considered as an occupation by the users who have got strong cryptocurrency portfolio. This means if an user has a good volume of top listed cryptocurrency in the portfolio, automatically one can keep hold of it as a security for the life. One who fulfill this can concentrate on day trading to earn few dollars through the market fluctuation.
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April 05, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
You're right. It's already a profession before cryptocurrency has emerged. We already knew that there were people who have earned from trading alone. And when we say trading, it's not just about cryptos and stocks, this also happens in the markets that we used to know traditionally.

However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.
And also capital.

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April 05, 2021, 11:01:27 AM
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You can quit your job and start crypto trading only if you have enough savings and great trading skills.
Quitting your 9/5 job for the sake of cryptocurrency trading,when you don't have enough savings and you lack important skills is a very risky decision that might lead to catastrophic consequences.
Trading mentorship is completely different than crypto trading.It's like selling shovels to gold diggers.
Most of the crypto trading mentors I've seen online are scammers.I would never get myself a trading mentor or pay for such service.

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April 05, 2021, 12:17:27 PM
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You can quit your job and start crypto trading only if you have enough savings and great trading skills.
Quitting your 9/5 job for the sake of cryptocurrency trading,when you don't have enough savings and you lack important skills is a very risky decision that might lead to catastrophic consequences.
Trading mentorship is completely different than crypto trading.It's like selling shovels to gold diggers.
Most of the crypto trading mentors I've seen online are scammers.I would never get myself a trading mentor or pay for such service.
It gonna be 40/60, where 40 percent a chance of success while 60% disappointment.
Yeah, we don't encourage people to quit their job for this risky profession, but we need assurance in which our current job could only make it, not this trading.

Because if we are not sure about our trading life will succeed, it is absolutely we don't have to try it.
Well, that is a good suggestion, "have some backup money" or we look for another source of income that could help in case we fail in trading otherwise, we totally paralyze and having no money at all.

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April 05, 2021, 12:42:16 PM
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Why does trading needs to be meticulously defined?
Before it was just a simple buy and sell. Buy the dip and sell for profit.

Yes, there are good analyst when it comes to forex trading but that doesn't mean they will always be accurate.
Those where still speculation where they just put basis using history. The future is unknown.
I'd rather have both my day job and trade occasionally because it doesn't really need full attention.

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April 05, 2021, 01:09:08 PM
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I think trading is not gambling because if someone can learn details about trading and analyze better to find the time to enter the market, he uses his skills to trade and makes money. It is normal to see some religion against trading and say that trading is the same as gambling. But if they can open their minds about what is needed to be a pro trader and know that the trader does not just play with their intuition, but the trader will also use their skills to work, I think they will not say trading is gambling.

But we can not blame those who say trading is gambling because they are not involved in the trading itself and only see from the outside. People who use trading as their source of income need to have skills to make a profit and minimize the risk.

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April 05, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
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Well, yes that is considered an occupation if you are in day trading or full-time trader --but for me, I cant treat this as an occupation because I cannot able to trade as a day trader. This is a very risky occupation and a sort of gambling that sometimes was based on your luck. I have seen a thread here before asking most likely the same question on this OP, saying, trading is considered a source of income. It is really hard to decide because we have different perspectives view on it. But for me, I rather good if I will find a stable job that provides me a stable income at the end of the month.

So what's the difference between trading and working? whereas to trade is a verb.
You're right, we have a different point of view. So everything that is traded is crypto or other than crypto, all of them have different risks but with the same purpose.

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April 05, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
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Let us define what occupation is.
"a job or profession."
Now what is a job?
"a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid."

In trading, you get paid from selling. Technically, yes it is an occupation. In fact there are number of people, like you mentioned, quitting their jobs to do full-time trading. However it is risky for obvious reasons that market is unstable.


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April 05, 2021, 05:46:32 PM
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In general, job can be defined as maintaining schedule with punctual for which you will be paid. Basically, occupation means you are a job holder or you have a profession. Anything can be your passion and profession which you love to. If you feel, you can make a better life through trading, then you can choose it and try to compromise with your job. If you considered trading as your profession, it can be considered as your occupation.

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April 05, 2021, 06:54:56 PM
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I think trading is not gambling because if someone can learn details about trading and analyze better to find the time to enter the market, he uses his skills to trade and makes money. It is normal to see some religion against trading and say that trading is the same as gambling. But if they can open their minds about what is needed to be a pro trader and know that the trader does not just play with their intuition, but the trader will also use their skills to work, I think they will not say trading is gambling.

But we can not blame those who say trading is gambling because they are not involved in the trading itself and only see from the outside. People who use trading as their source of income need to have skills to make a profit and minimize the risk.
That's true, trading is not gambling. In trading world you can learn to be a great trader and you can make money on any direction, and that is why it is better. In gambling house edge makes sure that you lose, there is no scenario in gambling where you win in long term because house always wins, in the end trading is miles better because it could be offering something that we can't see in gambling which is being decentralized, in gambling there is house but in trading it is just you and the person you buy from and one of you made a good decision.

So long story short, I do agree that trading could be a job if you know what you are doing, it is a risky and difficult job and unlike many other jobs you do not have a guaranteed income and in fact you could lose money while doing it, so it is not like a salary but it is still a lot better than gambling for sure.

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April 05, 2021, 11:21:04 PM
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In general, job can be defined as maintaining schedule with punctual for which you will be paid. Basically, occupation means you are a job holder or you have a profession. Anything can be your passion and profession which you love to. If you feel, you can make a better life through trading, then you can choose it and try to compromise with your job. If you considered trading as your profession, it can be considered as your occupation.
Either it is an occupation or not, whatever people say about trading, as long as we are good about it and can help us to make money, that be fine. Never tells that you are a trader if someone asks you what is your profession coz that will only confuse them and might ask you how you do that? And might saying...wow!!!

That probably amazes them because only a few people get success and have that gift, it is really proud to become like that. Cheesy
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April 05, 2021, 11:28:17 PM
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In general, job can be defined as maintaining schedule with punctual for which you will be paid. Basically, occupation means you are a job holder or you have a profession. Anything can be your passion and profession which you love to. If you feel, you can make a better life through trading, then you can choose it and try to compromise with your job. If you considered trading as your profession, it can be considered as your occupation.
Either it is an occupation or not, whatever people say about trading, as long as we are good about it and can help us to make money, that be fine. Never tells that you are a trader if someone asks you what is your profession coz that will only confuse them and might ask you how you do that? And might saying...wow!!!

That probably amazes them because only a few people get success and have that gift, it is really proud to become like that. Cheesy
Yes, I live in a remote area where people are very confused about many things and trading is one of them. By the way, I tried to make them understand several times but I failed then I stop it and finding my own way. I need to make money from trading and I am doing it and trying continuously.

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April 05, 2021, 11:30:31 PM
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Well, yes that is considered an occupation if you are in day trading or full-time trader --but for me, I cant treat this as an occupation because I cannot able to trade as a day trader. This is a very risky occupation and a sort of gambling that sometimes was based on your luck. I have seen a thread here before asking most likely the same question on this OP, saying, trading is considered a source of income. It is really hard to decide because we have different perspectives view on it. But for me, I rather good if I will find a stable job that provides me a stable income at the end of the month.

So what's the difference between trading and working? whereas to trade is a verb.
You're right, we have a different point of view. So everything that is traded is crypto or other than crypto, all of them have different risks but with the same purpose.
We do have indeed a different view into things which we can really see different sentiment that comes from other people but its true that they do have different risk
but having the same purpose which is to get money or having an income.We are all aiming for the same target, we do have just able to make it on different manner.
For someone who do make out trading as a main source of income or making it as a main job then it can be considered as a occupation or even into something
that you do have the passion to do or go in full time.

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April 06, 2021, 05:31:37 AM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.

Many people mistakes trading for gambling, although they have some similarities which has to do with speculating (making prediction), still that of trading is different since it can be duplicated in the sense that, provided it has happened before, there's a chance it'll repeat itself again which is why it's said the market moves in circles.

We have the bear, that has to do with the price dumping and we have the accumulating stages that involves the market recovering then the bull which comes with spikes and project achieving new all time highs. If the charts are studies careful any professional traders would be able to spot this phases when they're about to start.

Bit that of gambling mainly has to do with guess works, and hopes of it playing to your favour.

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April 06, 2021, 06:13:45 AM
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I think trading is also a profession. Such experience and knowledge is required to do the job. In order to trade, you need to have experience and knowledge about trading. Trading is more risky than a job, if you don't have trading skills you will end your trading journey very quickly at a loss. I saw a lot of traders who thought trading was like gambling and they started trading with the idea of ​​making a quick profit.

But it didn't take long for them to realize that their thinking was wrong, because they lost their capital so quickly. So I think you have to think of trading as a profession and read a lot about trading to develop your skills.

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April 06, 2021, 07:06:09 AM
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I think trading is not gambling because if someone can learn details about trading and analyze better to find the time to enter the market, he uses his skills to trade and makes money. It is normal to see some religion against trading and say that trading is the same as gambling. But if they can open their minds about what is needed to be a pro trader and know that the trader does not just play with their intuition, but the trader will also use their skills to work, I think they will not say trading is gambling.

But we can not blame those who say trading is gambling because they are not involved in the trading itself and only see from the outside. People who use trading as their source of income need to have skills to make a profit and minimize the risk.
That's true, trading is not gambling. In trading world you can learn to be a great trader and you can make money on any direction, and that is why it is better. In gambling house edge makes sure that you lose, there is no scenario in gambling where you win in long term because house always wins, in the end trading is miles better because it could be offering something that we can't see in gambling which is being decentralized, in gambling there is house but in trading it is just you and the person you buy from and one of you made a good decision.

So long story short, I do agree that trading could be a job if you know what you are doing, it is a risky and difficult job and unlike many other jobs you do not have a guaranteed income and in fact you could lose money while doing it, so it is not like a salary but it is still a lot better than gambling for sure.
I feel better using trading as my occupation than using gambling for the occupation because I see the potential to make money bigger from trading than gambling. No matter if learning trading is not easy, I am willing to spend some time learning many things related to trading so I can have a chance to improve my trading skills. If I can master just 3 methods of the lesson of trading, I think that can bring me to have more opportunities to make a profit.

I know that the market situations will not always be the same day by day, but if I can learn hard about trading, I can adapt myself to analyze the market moves, and I will have the opportunity to know which coin will give me profit later.

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April 06, 2021, 01:28:03 PM
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I think trading is also a profession. Such experience and knowledge is required to do the job. In order to trade, you need to have experience and knowledge about trading. Trading is more risky than a job, if you don't have trading skills you will end your trading journey very quickly at a loss. I saw a lot of traders who thought trading was like gambling and they started trading with the idea of ​​making a quick profit.

But it didn't take long for them to realize that their thinking was wrong, because they lost their capital so quickly. So I think you have to think of trading as a profession and read a lot about trading to develop your skills.

- Only when we take trading seriously, it will become a profession, a job to make money and we automatically progress more in trading one way or another but it is clear as you say that the level of awareness of trading work is probably not too high when the attitudes of many people are still quite naive and indifferent to work. Every job has small risks or big risks, trading belongs to jobs with big risks, development is also fast and when we lack updating and investing time in work, risk will arise and as a result of this process, many people quit their jobs


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April 06, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
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I think trading is also a profession. Such experience and knowledge is required to do the job. In order to trade, you need to have experience and knowledge about trading. Trading is more risky than a job, if you don't have trading skills you will end your trading journey very quickly at a loss. I saw a lot of traders who thought trading was like gambling and they started trading with the idea of ​​making a quick profit.

But it didn't take long for them to realize that their thinking was wrong, because they lost their capital so quickly. So I think you have to think of trading as a profession and read a lot about trading to develop your skills.

Well, I also believed that trading was a profession because if you will define profession it is a paid occupation founded by trading and proper qualification in which can be compared with trading where you must have fully trained and have enough experience to be called "professional trader". However, I don't think trading is riskier than a regular job because it is all risky in its own way it couldn't be compared because it depends on the situation you were in. To be honest I don't really care if trading is a job or not because as long as you are good at it and having enough income with that is all matters.



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April 06, 2021, 02:30:18 PM
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As long as you earn money on it, it is called "Occupation" or "profession" in other terms. The only thing that change is that you're a "self-employed" and not "employed" since you didn't apply to an employer, simple as that. Many people quit their actual job even their passion and do trading cryptocurrency instead because it's more practical than doing your passion but can't feed yourself or even your family.

Especially in this time of survival of the fittest, you always need to be practical to survive this pandemic or else you're gonna die starving if yoy didn't die on the virus.
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April 06, 2021, 03:32:28 PM
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Trading isn’t occupation for most people. But, some people take it as their occupation. Some traders gained so much knowledge in cryptocurrency trading. Some of them take it as their occupation. From my site, Trading Isn't my occupation but i do it for making some profit.
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April 06, 2021, 03:34:40 PM
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I know of so many who dropped their jobs to take up trading as a life time carrier despite the volatility of the market. A whole lot made hudge fortune from the market. So many made what the have never achieved throughout their life time in office jobs in few trades. Some other set abandoned their jobs and took up a carrier in trading mentorship. This has brought hudge fortune to traders who understand their market analysis at large.

Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case. I ask because I see a whole lot of persons who see trading as gambling and even discourage prospective traders not to venture into such. Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

Serious trading requires time, effort and hard work to learn and has nothing to do with gambling.  It's a profession which isn't coming easy and a lot of people never turn consistently profitable no matter how hard they try.  The problem is, that the gamblers, the get-quick-rich guys and the scammers define the picture the society has about traders.
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April 06, 2021, 04:11:20 PM
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I know of so many who dropped their jobs to take up trading as a life time carrier despite the volatility of the market. A whole lot made hudge fortune from the market. So many made what the have never achieved throughout their life time in office jobs in few trades. Some other set abandoned their jobs and took up a carrier in trading mentorship. This has brought hudge fortune to traders who understand their market analysis at large.

Would trading be called an occupation if this be the case. I ask because I see a whole lot of persons who see trading as gambling and even discourage prospective traders not to venture into such. Is trading really gambling or does it in any way have similarities with gambling. This part has to be clearified because it is really bringing heavy argument in our society.

Most religious bodies still kick against trading with the view that it is a form of gambling that has 60% certainty if traded with caution. But if the certainty is above average then why do we still regard it as gambling?

From: https://www.ig.com/en/cryptocurrency-trading/what-is-cryptocurrency-trading-how-does-it-work

We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.

For me trading is also an occupation because you can use it to earn and not just as an alternative but you can focus on it if you want. You just need to learn and educate yourself first before entering or making it as your occupation. And of course be sure that you have a huge capital to start. I don't agree that trading is gambling. In the old days people did not use money instead they traded with the things they had. It means even before trading is already present, but unlike nowadays that we use cryptocurrency instead of things or goods to trade. Sometimes, Religious group are very exaggerated. On their eyes and views making money using crypto are gambling but you know some of them are also investing in crypto, right?!

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April 06, 2021, 04:25:55 PM
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Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off.
your working in a high paying jobs and you cant pay bills but what kind of bill was that  .
normal bills that we found on our house hold is easily paid by a normal paying job .
we need to live a life acording to our status to be able to pay our bills easily but if we want a little luxury and our job pays small , we can add trading to support it
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April 06, 2021, 06:08:24 PM
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I believe it is an occupation.  Let it trade online and offline it must work, much like a business. Most people in Lockheed choose to trade as an occupation. We are earning income through trade, whether it is more or less. In addition to the actual work, we are using it as a bypass. So what's wrong with calling it an occupation?

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April 07, 2021, 03:47:22 AM
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Trading is very open to everyone whether you are professional or not. Because in my case I am not a degree holder and yet after 1 year of studying crypto trading anyhow I gained understanding about it, even up the present I continuous to learn from it, because the more we do the actual trade is the more We feed ourselves in idea and knowledge about this matter. And I'm not an employee at the moment for 6 years now and yet I survive via crypto trading now.
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April 07, 2021, 04:49:09 AM
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Trading can possible becomes an occupation there are a lot of YouTubers doing this kind of thing and they are sharing those to the groups and more social media sites and good to see that but I think it requires a lot of investment like $3000 or more when starting trading if you want to earn a large profit you need to risk a large amount too.

I still choose having a stable job because what if the market volatility becomes low also it's better to secure anything and choose to trade as a hobby
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April 07, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
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For me yes. Trading can be considered as an occupation because there are certain requirements to be a trader and there is profit involve plus there are already tons of people who are happily sitting on their couch earning more money than other people who work in the corporate industry. But always remember that trading is not for everyone, there is more nonprofitable trader than profitable traders.

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Isn't it true 80 percent of traders lose then?
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April 07, 2021, 05:48:58 AM
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Some people consider it as a profession/"occupation". But I wouldn't if I were them. The crypto market is very volatile and making is a full time profession is very risky. There is no guaranteed source of salary/income from crypto trading. You may be left without anything at all! You may make some good profit in a month and the next month you may make nothing or lose everything. How are you going to pay your bills then?
Maybe keep crypto trading as a side hustle?

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April 07, 2021, 05:53:14 AM
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I can say yes because some people who do trading earn money from doing it,  even though the income that you may have from trading is no stable it can still be an occupation, even though cryptocurrency is not yet here, trading is already there because some are already trading in a stock market and some people already chose to trade than staying on their career, the same things happen on those who trade in cryptocurrency.
Isn't it true 80 percent of traders lose then?
That is also what was my friend told m about trading, he told me as well that it is better to gamble as you can have a 50% chance of winning compared to day trading where you will only have a 10-20% chance of winning, I don't know if this is true or not or this is only for the beginners of the day trading.

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April 07, 2021, 07:27:07 AM
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If you are good with it and you do it full-time then you can consider it as an occupation or a job, the only problem with that though is a lot time and effort should be put into it before you can consider it as your job. Also, there is a job called fund managers that are actively trading stocks so I guess crypto trading is a job.

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Occupation means a job or profession. I don't consider trading an occupation but instead, it is a business where your main goal is to not get bankrupt. You buy a stock or crypto, etc. at a particular price then sell it for a higher price. It's like you have a mini grocery you buy some goods at a cheaper price then sell them higher. Trend can be correlated on those because you will prefer what gives you more profit in a short amount of time. Trading can't really be an occupation even if you are good at reading charts and indicators. You can't always predict the market especially if it's cryptocurrencies where the coins are very volatile.
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We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.



In my opinion all kinds of traders can view their trading as occucpation. It doesn't really matter if you trade stocks, currencies, commodities or cryptos. As long as you are making a profit and can live of your trades than it is an occupation. Using trading to pay our bills is a good idea, but we also need to be careful that we fullfill all the regulatory requirements in our countrs. Another issue would be to pay taxes from our trades. It is not always the case that the broker or exchange will directly post our returns to the tax collectors, we might need to do it ourselfs. So taking away some profit for the tax payments at the end of the year is a factor we need to take into onsideration.
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April 07, 2021, 10:13:40 AM
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If you are good with it and you do it full-time then you can consider it as an occupation or a job, the only problem with that though is a lot time and effort should be put into it before you can consider it as your job. Also, there is a job called fund managers that are actively trading stocks so I guess crypto trading is a job.
Maybe before that person uses trading as a full time job, he needs to spend many times learning to trade because trading is not an easy way to make money. I see some pro trader use trading as their main job, and I know their story beforebecominge a pro trader because they tell their story that they spend many times, hours, and dayslearningn to trade. They say that it is hard to search for many sources but that is worth doing as now, they can make a living from trading.

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April 07, 2021, 12:49:03 PM
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Its an occupation as you are making money and its a liability when you are losing money.  In short no its not an occupation.  You can consistently "win" or make a paycheck week to week.  It is what it is, trading and in some sense if you are trading altclins you are pretty much gambling.

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April 07, 2021, 01:55:19 PM
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In short no its not an occupation.  You can consistently "win" or make a paycheck week to week.
Consistency is something we cannot achieve in trading; we can get paycheck time to time but there cannot be any assurance to have it on every week; this is the reason I agree trading cannot be an occupation. But it can be your side business along with your day job. Because, if you're not finishing up on week in profits still you can continue next week because you are not absolutely depending on trading for your living.

I know their story beforebecominge a pro trader because they tell their story that they spend many times, hours, and dayslearningn to trade. They say that it is hard to search for many sources but that is worth doing as now, they can make a living from trading.
Becoming up to the level of pro trader definitely requires lots of dedication. If we are ready to put efforts up to that kind of level, then we may get chances to living out of trading. But the point is, we cannot sustain into trading with capital until we learn all the required things. Yes, you may get enforced to quit trading in middle as you may get any resources to top up your capital.
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Isn't it true 80 percent of traders lose then?
This is real. Approximately only 3% of traders are the one that is profitable and actually earns money from trading stocks or crypto. But don't get discouraged if you are starting at trading because you can be one of that 3% if you know what you are doing.

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I also think that trading can be categorized as a job because there are so many professional traders who depend on trading for their lives, this is a new branch of work in my opinion. where when trading we also need analysis and learning. so if trading is categorized as gambling it is wrong
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I also think that trading can be categorized as a job because there are so many professional traders who depend on trading for their lives, this is a new branch of work in my opinion. where when trading we also need analysis and learning. so if trading is categorized as gambling it is wrong

Skills and experienced traders are indeed benefiting from this industry.

As they managed to earn more compared to their regular 8hrs office job, it's very possible for them to make more money using thier
knowledge and skills breaking the market with good position and harvesting profits from tiem to time. It's still depend though with
your capabilities to adjust but yes it's been a good place to earned.
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You should check out hedge funds, they're basically traders. There is no need to question whether trading is a job or not, the question should be how good you are when you do it. If you're terrible, then you won't make any money, and you'll probably lose more than you can chew.
On point. Trading in itself is a career and a job not anybody can do. You. need patience, knowledge and you need to devote time to develop this skill. You can certainly make a living from trading. It is all a questions of interest and market choice.

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If you want to question whether trading is rightly aligned with religious beliefs or not, I think this is not the right place.
I agree. There are many topics we discuss here that will benefit others, but asking whether crypto aligns with someone's religious belief is something to be determined at the individual level.
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April 08, 2021, 11:05:38 AM
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Whether traditional trading, cryptocurrency trading or Forex Trading, it should be taken as a profession. If our local traders refer to themselves as traders for a living, why shouldn't those who do any sort of online trading refer to it as an occupation. The problem most people have trading cryptocurrency is that they don't tend to take it as a serious engagement. Someone learns traditional trading for 5-7 years as an apprentice before setting up his own but those who do online trading don't want to spend that much time acquiring the skill set for it. They think they can just jump on it and get started like that without the knowledge of how it's done. Every wannabe trader seems to be in a hurry to start trading, thereby making it look like a gamble.

The entire crypto market cap just crossed two trillion dollar (a few days ago), it shows how a serious business trading is and should be handled with every sense of commitment as an occupation. There are people who don't do anything else apart from online trading and they're making a kill from it because they already see it as something that can put food on the table for them. Trading is an occupation, and rightly so.

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April 08, 2021, 04:29:37 PM
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Some people consider it as a profession/"occupation". But I wouldn't if I were them. The crypto market is very volatile and making is a full time profession is very risky. There is no guaranteed source of salary/income from crypto trading. You may be left without anything at all! You may make some good profit in a month and the next month you may make nothing or lose everything. How are you going to pay your bills then?
Maybe keep crypto trading as a side hustle?

If we talk about successful traders, they have already earned such capital in this bull market that they will be able to do nothing for the rest of their lives. In this case, the initial capital that you have invested in trading is of great importance, because it is impossible to make a fortune with $ 100 in practice.

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I think we can consider it as a profession, people used it as a way of earning money more than what they are taking as a salary when they are an employee for other company. Like me, I quit my job just to invest my time and money on cryptocurrencies. And it is also need enough knowledge and skills, this is why I consider it as an occupation/job.
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April 08, 2021, 05:00:43 PM
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Depending on how you view it, one can trade full time or part time. However if you must take up trading as a full time occupation, you must be ready for anything that comes with it. You could loose all your money and be broke for a longtime anytime.
I personally trade part-time because one stream of income in this age is not enough.

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April 08, 2021, 05:06:18 PM
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We can consider trading as an occupation. In trading, we have to use our time, knowledge and many other things to earn. Yes, you can say that in trading there is a chance to lose money but it is not gambling. In gambling, luck maters most but in trading, knowledge, trick, strategy and experienced are more important.

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April 08, 2021, 05:25:42 PM
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Depending on how you view it, one can trade full time or part time. However if you must take up trading as a full time occupation, you must be ready for anything that comes with it. You could loose all your money and be broke for a longtime anytime.
I personally trade part-time because one stream of income in this age is not enough.
Full time or part time it doesn't matter but the real question is, how good are you with your skills? Although I know it's kind of hard when trading, especially with this very volatile market. Not everyone could pull off a stunts to make a profit during the very busy hours. I guess trading also may need some luck because even if the best trader in the world they still could lose to the market.

The only way they could minimize their losses is to practice risk management since not everyday is a payday. Learn to accept losses then move on and proceed to practice your skills in trading.

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April 08, 2021, 06:29:25 PM
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Whether traditional trading, cryptocurrency trading or Forex Trading, it should be taken as a profession. If our local traders refer to themselves as traders for a living, why shouldn't those who do any sort of online trading refer to it as an occupation. The problem most people have trading cryptocurrency is that they don't tend to take it as a serious engagement. Someone learns traditional trading for 5-7 years as an apprentice before setting up his own but those who do online trading don't want to spend that much time acquiring the skill set for it. They think they can just jump on it and get started like that without the knowledge of how it's done. Every wannabe trader seems to be in a hurry to start trading, thereby making it look like a gamble.

The entire crypto market cap just crossed two trillion dollar (a few days ago), it shows how a serious business trading is and should be handled with every sense of commitment as an occupation. There are people who don't do anything else apart from online trading and they're making a kill from it because they already see it as something that can put food on the table for them. Trading is an occupation, and rightly so.
Well think about it this way, if you are a developer for a company you are a developer, if you are a developer who works freelance you are still a developer and if you are a developer who builds his own software that means we are talking about all of them being developers and that is why there is no problem with that.

Why would we talk about traders being any different, we are talking about trader who works for someone in wall street is called trader, and someone who works for trading all for himself is still trading, or if you even trade crypto at home but for someone else that's trader too, as long as you trade constantly that's trader. What I think should not be considered a trader is people who rarely ever do that and make very little money or not even make any money, if you trade once a month that's not being trader, but if you trade at least once a day, that's being trader if you ask me.

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April 08, 2021, 06:39:42 PM
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We could define crypto currency trading as follows:
Cryptocurrency trading involves speculating on price movements via a CFD trading account, or buying and selling the underlying coins via an exchange.

What could we deduce from this. Could there be a contrary view. Because for me crypto trading can be classified as an occupation in at this point of the world's evolution especially in underdeveloped and developing nation's where unemployment is hitting the peak of the day. Crypto trading could be an alternate source of lively hood which could payoff most of the bills some highly paid jobs can not attempt to clear off. This post isn't meant to discourage you from your job. It's only an eye opener. Crypto trading can still serve as a side hustle to settle bills before the arrival of our large salaries.
Well, for sure the trading of cryptocurrency can become an occupation for some people. You’re not the first that have seen people who decided to quit their jobs and be trading cryptocurrency. I know so many of those people and luckily they are all good and are making money from it and living life.

It is not an easy thing for anyone to, you have to know how good you really are in trading of cryptocurrency before you talk about quitting your office job to start trading cryptocurrency, cause I have also seen those who didn’t make success with it.

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April 08, 2021, 08:31:15 PM
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Recklessly trading is the main reason makes people believe that trading is the same as gambling. The statistic has already shown that 95% of traders losing their money. Only 5% remains profit. This number includes veteran traders, big companies, big funds, and banks.

As you can see, people seem to earn a lot in the uptrend of cryptocurrency. But don't let it delude your visionary. Are you excellent at trading, or it is just a fortune investment? Remember that trading requires a lot of skills, knowledge and the ability to suffer loss without being interrupted by own feelings. People now hold their coins and somehow, they do earn profit. They start thinking of quitting their job to begin a full time trader. That is ignorant. Being a trader is never easy, and they will soon learn a lot of lessons when the trend reverse.

In fact, successful traders in which I have interacted with are once who both have a stable job in the real life, and they only consider trading as their side job. In some cases, their side job does make more money than their actual job. Most of them say that spend 100% in trading is exhausted and unnecessary. A successful trader only takes a 1-3 hours per day to make a full analysis. In conclusion, I believe that trading is either an occupation or gambling. By learning and obtaining experience, trading is likely to become a job rather than gambling

Think about that carefully. Experience are all over the internet. You can easily find many regretful stories of men abandoning their main job for trading.
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April 08, 2021, 08:40:50 PM
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Depending on how you view it, one can trade full time or part time. However if you must take up trading as a full time occupation, you must be ready for anything that comes with it. You could loose all your money and be broke for a longtime anytime.

Those are the possible consequences if someone would shift from a no trader to a full time trader without having enough experience that will help them to survive trading.

I personally trade part-time because one stream of income in this age is not enough.
This is why others are choosing to be a part time trader because they can do whatever they want and trade as much as they can without comprising their other source of income.

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April 08, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
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It would only be an occupation once you're entire life sustainable source relied on this type of money making. However, most people these days only used this as their part time income generating business which usually their perspective.
If you're not really skillful on this kind of trading or investment to make as an occupation, I recommend making this as your secondary source of income. Because there's no assurance and everything that runs through trading cryptocurrencies is highly unpredictable.
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I think it's a job, however, it has tremendous freedom. Trading can be done anywhere at any time with just a mobile phone. It looks like you're distracting, even if you're trading, you can travel anywhere by making a profit. The world has made great progress.

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April 08, 2021, 10:13:19 PM
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I think it's a job, however, it has tremendous freedom. Trading can be done anywhere at any time with just a mobile phone. It looks like you're distracting, even if you're trading, you can travel anywhere by making a profit. The world has made great progress.
No matter what we think about trading, either be a job, an occupation or not but the most important is we are seeing this as an opportunity to make money. Trading is just an option for jobless people or even those who have a job already, a few have been doing so well but many were also in big troubles. This is happening because of its risk and that it involves money to start that makes other people never think about trying it.

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April 09, 2021, 05:49:23 AM
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I think trading is a kind of profession as we already have this kind of trading in the stock market and there is already a subject or program that talks about cryptocurrency specifically trading, everyone can do trading and everyone can choose this track as their source of income which is kinda risky. If you want to succeed in trading then you should spend most of your time observing the market and always grab the opportunity once it happens. This kind of job is such a good one in terms of your time and comfortability as you can do it at your home lying on your bed anytime and anywhere but requires really good knowledge first.

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April 09, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
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I know their story beforebecominge a pro trader because they tell their story that they spend many times, hours, and dayslearningn to trade. They say that it is hard to search for many sources but that is worth doing as now, they can make a living from trading.
Becoming up to the level of pro trader definitely requires lots of dedication. If we are ready to put efforts up to that kind of level, then we may get chances to living out of trading. But the point is, we cannot sustain into trading with capital until we learn all the required things. Yes, you may get enforced to quit trading in middle as you may get any resources to top up your capital.
I can not imagine what lesson the pro trader learned and how long they spent their time learning. Although I am still on my way to learn to trade, I feel that it is not easy to become a pro trader, especially if we do not have much time to learn. But that is the challenge for people who want to become a pro trader. They will not stop learning because they know that the market will always change and need more effort to improve their skills.

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I think it's a job, however, it has tremendous freedom. Trading can be done anywhere at any time with just a mobile phone. It looks like you're distracting, even if you're trading, you can travel anywhere by making a profit. The world has made great progress.
A job, a profession, a career, an occupation, for me it's still ambiguous just like the human nature and I think it will only be interpreted if what kind of trader you are. Ift can be done anywhere but just a side note it's always good to always plan the trade so you can avoid getting burned. Trading isn't always some sunshine and making profit it takes more on the patience and waiting of your trade.
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The way I see trading is different from others, many want to get rich overnight, even when I started I thought that way, and I only had profit on my mind, I never thought that the market could go away on me against and make me lose, after many failures in a row I realized that it is best to take trading as a "Business", as they do to start a business, everyone works very early and closes very late, this generates very little profit, the ROI For almost all businesses it is 10% per year, these are the profits that Amazon always plans, and the ROI for any business in a positive scenario begins to be perceived after 3 years, so that you can take profits and reinvest in the business, the Trading can generate profits in the short or medium term if you make the right investment, it is also a matter of luck, but I see that investing in cryptocurrencies is more feasible.

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I think it's a job, however, it has tremendous freedom. Trading can be done anywhere at any time with just a mobile phone. It looks like you're distracting, even if you're trading, you can travel anywhere by making a profit. The world has made great progress.
A job, a profession, a career, an occupation, for me it's still ambiguous just like the human nature and I think it will only be interpreted if what kind of trader you are. Ift can be done anywhere but just a side note it's always good to always plan the trade so you can avoid getting burned. Trading isn't always some sunshine and making profit it takes more on the patience and waiting of your trade.
Now it's easy with cellphones, we can trade anywhere, maybe it can be said to be very practical whenever we travel, but yes for me with a cellphone, it's not enough, still, we need a stronger analysis that can be learned and how the results are. determined in the trade, with patience maybe it can be said that the main capital is just being patient and waiting for the token to rise is more enough, but in other additions, trading also needs other strategies to perfect it.

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April 09, 2021, 04:42:32 PM
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Now it's easy with cellphones, we can trade anywhere, maybe it can be said to be very practical whenever we travel, but yes for me with a cellphone, it's not enough, still, we need a stronger analysis that can be learned and how the results are. determined in the trade, with patience maybe it can be said that the main capital is just being patient and waiting for the token to rise is more enough, but in other additions, trading also needs other strategies to perfect it.
As far as I'm concerned I think we shouldn't aim for perfection since even the best trader in the planet could go wrong. What it means to have the glimpse of perfection is always assume you're wrong on your trade, I mean, others are too focus on making a profit but what if if you're wrong that's the difficult one and sometimes others can't bear the pressure especially this noobs. Hi
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Yes, i think those who are good at trading can be professional always. But professionalism can not be made in a day where too many obstacles everywhere. But good things is that in covid season many men come to professional trading for income as safe and gradually by lose and profit they will come real trader one day.
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Definitely yes. I am actually saying this to a lot of people these days. Trading is a big occupation which can almost be said as a full-time occupation. People generally consider it an easy job of buying and selling but what they forget is the whole lot of screening and research which a person has to do before they enter into the market. Also the amount of study and analysis you have to do to reach up to a stage where you can take anything from the market. Generally, it would take you 2-3 years to build experience in trading and this experience will help you earn throughout your life. It's just like any other Vocation. But yes Swing Trading can be said more like a part-time job as you don't need to research that much each day. Many days you can just check up on your existing positions.
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Yes it is, you work and you earn that is the concept of an occupation right?

But its not like a salaried jo where you need to work 9 to 5 and you will get guaranteed income every week/month but in trading you make or you lose and it only depends on your skills and market condition.









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Yes it is, you work and you earn that is the concept of an occupation right?

But its not like a salaried jo where you need to work 9 to 5 and you will get guaranteed income every week/month but in trading you make or you lose and it only depends on your skills and market condition.
That's the difference between the two on where the assurance of money that you can possibly earn on a day on where a real job does give out that kind of opportunity for you to get fixed rates assured

not like in trading where its still depending on your skills and knowledge but somehow once you do get it done right then expect that it would really be much more better in terms of value
that  you had earned compared in your days salary on your job.

Trading can be considered as an occupation when you do go full time and not as a side job.

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April 09, 2021, 08:46:26 PM
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Yes it is, you work and you earn that is the concept of an occupation right?

But its not like a salaried jo where you need to work 9 to 5 and you will get guaranteed income every week/month but in trading you make or you lose and it only depends on your skills and market condition.
That's the difference between the two on where the assurance of money that you can possibly earn on a day on where a real job does give out that kind of opportunity for you to get fixed rates assured

not like in trading where its still depending on your skills and knowledge but somehow once you do get it done right then expect that it would really be much more better in terms of value
that  you had earned compared in your days salary on your job.

Trading can be considered as an occupation when you do go full time and not as a side job.
I'd find trading isn't a job that everyone is welcome, this is only for those who are willing to take high risk and lose their money. The result of our trades depends on us, literally but if we are good at doing this, we can earn much. Unlike when we work hard for our office job, we only got appreciation, nothing it changes to our salary (unless if they will give you a bonus but merely it happens). But if we wanted assurance, then we have not to choose trading.

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April 09, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
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Yes it is, you work and you earn that is the concept of an occupation right?

But its not like a salaried jo where you need to work 9 to 5 and you will get guaranteed income every week/month but in trading you make or you lose and it only depends on your skills and market condition.
That's the difference between the two on where the assurance of money that you can possibly earn on a day on where a real job does give out that kind of opportunity for you to get fixed rates assured

not like in trading where its still depending on your skills and knowledge but somehow once you do get it done right then expect that it would really be much more better in terms of value
that  you had earned compared in your days salary on your job.

Trading can be considered as an occupation when you do go full time and not as a side job.
I'd find trading isn't a job that everyone is welcome, this is only for those who are willing to take high risk and lose their money. The result of our trades depends on us, literally but if we are good at doing this, we can earn much. Unlike when we work hard for our office job, we only got appreciation, nothing it changes to our salary (unless if they will give you a bonus but merely it happens). But if we wanted assurance, then we have not to choose trading.
Salary is one of the main reason why people are staying poor, so the risk is actually worth but the risk should not be taken blindly. A trader need appropriate amount as capital to start trading for that they need to work somewhere if they are not coming from a rich family and need to keep working while doing trades, once become a successful trader then he can quit job and do the trading as full job.









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Some previous comments point out that trading is an occupation... I can agree with that, as I can disagree! Crypto trading is a 24/7 open market, with so many options and features! So it can be an occupation, as it can be a hobby! You decide how much time and money you will sacrifice on trading... and in the end, you can make some profit, or not!

Crypto is about freedom, so use that freedom and simply adjust your trading strategies with your free time! Of course, you can trade 24/7, but for what? Where is your life in that case?

I think that strategy is important... you need to find the best strategy for your free time and for your capital! If you wish to survive and make money in the long run! Everything fast is very risky, but long-run strategies can work if you combine all the factors in the right way!

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April 09, 2021, 09:30:31 PM
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Salary is one of the main reason why people are staying poor, so the risk is actually worth but the risk should not be taken blindly. A trader need appropriate amount as capital to start trading for that they need to work somewhere if they are not coming from a rich family and need to keep working while doing trades, once become a successful trader then he can quit job and do the trading as full job.
It is worth it for those who are willing to take risk but it's hard to do it if you're not in good position like financially. I've seen traders that went from rags to riches and they've taken their way slowly but surely.
The progress isn't that great at the beginning but they've trusted the process and now they're earning more than an average person does monthly. And that's the advantage when someone makes trading an occupation and has a strong heart to take risks.

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April 09, 2021, 11:58:01 PM
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Someone can earn a living from it right?  then of course we can say trading is an occupation, although it requires alot of learning, experience and patience to be able to make money from it, have seen someone who went to college to study something different, came out learned about cryptocurrencies and next crypto trading, today he's a full time trader he dropped his school certificate and everything  and his earning a living from it, so trading is definitely an occupation for so many people out there.

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I have recently come a trading type of career in our local employment related website. It is a national website and companies put their job adverts there and people apply to start working there. I could say that I was shocked to see crypto related jobs all had something like "business analyst" who was basically just a trader who didn't trade. All the analytics all the chart readings all basically related stuff was there. I don't know if that is going to be a long term thing but I think it was basically just a big career that employed thousands of people.

I mean sure they are not trading so you may not consider them traders but they were doing everything a trader does every day and they just do not click the buy/sell buttons. I do not know why they are hired and what good they do to people, but I think higher ups hires these people to keep constant finger on things.

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April 10, 2021, 05:45:21 AM
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Someone can earn a living from it right?  then of course we can say trading is an occupation, although it requires alot of learning, experience and patience to be able to make money from it, have seen someone who went to college to study something different, came out learned about cryptocurrencies and next crypto trading, today he's a full time trader he dropped his school certificate and everything  and his earning a living from it, so trading is definitely an occupation for so many people out there.
many people really only have the main job of trading. but indeed to make the main job of course through a process that is not easy, between engineering, psychology, money management. we even have to find the background and future of the project to analyze it

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April 10, 2021, 06:22:52 AM
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Salary is one of the main reason why people are staying poor, so the risk is actually worth but the risk should not be taken blindly. A trader need appropriate amount as capital to start trading for that they need to work somewhere if they are not coming from a rich family and need to keep working while doing trades, once become a successful trader then he can quit job and do the trading as full job.
It is worth it for those who are willing to take risk but it's hard to do it if you're not in good position like financially. I've seen traders that went from rags to riches and they've taken their way slowly but surely.
The progress isn't that great at the beginning but they've trusted the process and now they're earning more than an average person does monthly. And that's the advantage when someone makes trading an occupation and has a strong heart to take risks.
It is indeed very hard decision to embark on the career as a full time trader, I had come across full time traders who don't any other job and doing well. In my opinion 9-5 job can never make someone rich however an experience trader with huge portfolio for trading will earn and make huge profits and income than a salary earner this is subject to having a working strategy with money management, but does the risk of quitting a day to trading really worth it? I think Yes

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April 10, 2021, 06:28:46 AM
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Someone can earn a living from it right?  then of course we can say trading is an occupation, although it requires alot of learning, experience and patience to be able to make money from it, have seen someone who went to college to study something different, came out learned about cryptocurrencies and next crypto trading, today he's a full time trader he dropped his school certificate and everything  and his earning a living from it, so trading is definitely an occupation for so many people out there.
Not everyone can earn money in trading since there are statistics that say that a lot of traders are losing a lot of money, I would agree that trading can make money but you have to be good at it first because it involves risk.
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April 10, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
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If someone is really determine to do what he/she wanted to do. Then it's possible even if you choose trading cryptocurrency as an occupation. By the way, I knew a few who did.
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April 10, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
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Salary is one of the main reason why people are staying poor, so the risk is actually worth but the risk should not be taken blindly. A trader need appropriate amount as capital to start trading for that they need to work somewhere if they are not coming from a rich family and need to keep working while doing trades, once become a successful trader then he can quit job and do the trading as full job.
It is worth it for those who are willing to take risk but it's hard to do it if you're not in good position like financially. I've seen traders that went from rags to riches and they've taken their way slowly but surely.
The progress isn't that great at the beginning but they've trusted the process and now they're earning more than an average person does monthly. And that's the advantage when someone makes trading an occupation and has a strong heart to take risks.
It is indeed very hard decision to embark on the career as a full time trader, I had come across full time traders who don't any other job and doing well. In my opinion 9-5 job can never make someone rich however an experience trader with huge portfolio for trading will earn and make huge profits and income than a salary earner this is subject to having a working strategy with money management, but does the risk of quitting a day to trading really worth it? I think Yes
There are 9-5 jobs that are giving a big salary and if I'm earning a lot with my full-time job and very much satisfied with the amount that I earn from working there, I don't have to find any other source to make a living. But those are only for executives and senior position jobs and as well as developers who are very well in their skills. If someone who's been thinking to quit and shift to becoming a full time trader, I think the closest ones are those who have been trading for years and sees the potential in themselves and can earn as much as their full time jobs.

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Ok if you are thinking salary is what makes you poor then if you lack funds get better skills or better yet look for another job. As for crypto, if you are light on funds then I recommend putting in what you can afford to lose. Put in 100, 1000, (If you can put in 10K) whatever it is use that amount to invest in yourself. Just like your 401Lame or the stonk market you can make tidier returns than a saving account. Just for perspective, my first 401Lame which I can't transfer to my current job for some reason has doubled in value in just less than 10 years with Crypto I made 10X 100X damn near 1000x for select coins I had (never really invested in Stonks but have always thought about it but the game is rigged just like with the 401Lames what goes up must come down, zero sum game as someone used to tell me.) Regardless if you are young the main asset you have is time and I would say out of  all of the assets out there Crypto is the best. Stonk market has set hours while Crypto is 24-7 and no one ever mentions this or hypes this fact up which is what makes the markets in my opinion more valuable than the stonk market (wake up world markets... Crypto is eating your lunch).

Anyway a general strategy is to look at the charts look for lows is the coin you are about to buy at a good low for the time you are looking at it? Can you buy at that low again? Put in a low order and wait on it eventually it might get filled. Or if you see good overall volume and the price seems good you can grab it but be careful it might bottom out and then you become a bagholder. If that is the case, can you stake the coin? Does it have value elsewhere is what you should also be asking. When you go to sell try sell a small amount at minimum point you could get out or alert you. You can also put a larger sell at a high point in case it pumps but you may want to consider hodling the coin if you like the project and feel it is undervalued. The best advise I can give you is don't quit your day job even if you jackpot to 10K or 100K or 1M (yes 1 Million dollars isn't worth that much but is a good nest egg to fall back on unless you are old today then quit your job). The reason why is because even though you get tired of what you do it generates a guaranteed income (unless you work on commission then I would say if you get to this point work less focus more on crypto if you feel you have the market down). Also even if you make a ton of money you can also lose a lot of money. What if the coin you choose no longer has a developer or it turns out to be scam or investors feel like they are getting value out of the project anymore then you can lose it all. Another thing to be concerned about is bad exchanges and just bad actors in crypto. I've lost and I've won but overall I've done quite good. If you really don't know what to invest in then you might want to get a savings account from BlockFi or Nexo. Only quit your job if you feel that you can make adequate returns in crypto or use a strategy of building your funds to 8-20+ Million and then sell half put that into monthly/quarterly dividend stocks and keep the other half in crypto.

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April 11, 2021, 12:26:46 AM
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I have recently come a trading type of career in our local employment related website. It is a national website and companies put their job adverts there and people apply to start working there. I could say that I was shocked to see crypto related jobs all had something like "business analyst" who was basically just a trader who didn't trade. All the analytics all the chart readings all basically related stuff was there. I don't know if that is going to be a long term thing but I think it was basically just a big career that employed thousands of people.

I mean sure they are not trading so you may not consider them traders but they were doing everything a trader does every day and they just do not click the buy/sell buttons. I do not know why they are hired and what good they do to people, but I think higher ups hires these people to keep constant finger on things.

They sound like a glorified salesperson or "financial advisor" from what you are inferring. Unless the postings had some IT/Dev background where they code to a certain blockchain or protocol.

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April 11, 2021, 12:32:59 AM
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Some previous comments point out that trading is an occupation... I can agree with that, as I can disagree! Crypto trading is a 24/7 open market, with so many options and features! So it can be an occupation, as it can be a hobby! You decide how much time and money you will sacrifice on trading... and in the end, you can make some profit, or not!

Crypto is about freedom, so use that freedom and simply adjust your trading strategies with your free time! Of course, you can trade 24/7, but for what? Where is your life in that case?

I think that strategy is important... you need to find the best strategy for your free time and for your capital! If you wish to survive and make money in the long run! Everything fast is very risky, but long-run strategies can work if you combine all the factors in the right way!

Good advise and I see your point on life balance but it depends on the person and where they came from. If they already almost 24-7 or are on call for their job then crypto is for them as the market is 24-7 which is what makes it so much better than traditional markets. As you said it depends on your strategy and you could just passively invest your crypto into a DeFi platform like Nexo or BlockFi.

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April 11, 2021, 03:38:34 PM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.
Exactly for me it is also a profession not everyone could make it in trading just like other profession.
So if you can't handle it better find something else that would suit's you well.
Everyone doesn't look at it as a job but for me as long as you are earning from what you do it is already considered as a job.

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April 11, 2021, 04:08:20 PM
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Actually trading could be an occupation to some because it does pay some bills. I do know a lot of people who have been trading for years and had quit their job to do full time trading instead, and they mostly say it pay their bills and mortgages. And I think that's one of the main reason why people work because it pays their needs.
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Actually trading could be an occupation to some because it does pay some bills. I do know a lot of people who have been trading for years and had quit their job to do full time trading instead, and they mostly say it pay their bills and mortgages. And I think that's one of the main reason why people work because it pays their needs.

I could see that if the person's job is in sales or commission based as those job don't give you a guaranteed income or they are working some menial job that doesn't pay but crypto does and doing it full time for them would be a better source of income. I still would rate trading as a sales/commission job sometimes you win big and other times you lose.

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Actually trading could be an occupation to some because it does pay some bills. I do know a lot of people who have been trading for years and had quit their job to do full time trading instead, and they mostly say it pay their bills and mortgages. And I think that's one of the main reason why people work because it pays their needs.
Trader can be a good profession so does it can be a occupation. What good on this job is we are the one who have fully control of our time and decision we don't need to have our boss to instruct us what to do. It's better than having a occupation that provides fixed salary since if we do great in trading we can get more profit based on our performance in trading.

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April 11, 2021, 06:47:51 PM
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Trading for me is not an occupations, because as an individual traders in cryptocurrency, We have no boss here, everything We do in the actual trade in any of the exchange platform are controlled by our decisions if fail or not. So for me it is like something that has a similarity of Skills or it could be a profession as well.

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If you want you can choose trading for you as a occupation. Because it is all depends on you. But there is no point to indicate others that he makes a lot from trading and another person can't make a single even he lose a lot. Its not a gambling that one person can make huge or others can't. Because this is not a luck by Chance game. This is a professionals work like if you learn more you can generate profit more. Or if you can't learn but you want profit like others then sorry trading is not for you. If you truely want a trading journey then you should learn first. Then after learning enter this platform. After entering this platform then decide is this a platform what you can choose as a occupation for your self.
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It is true that trading is a occupation and we can rely on it as a source of income to live. But not everyone can do it, I even read articles on
the internet that the percentage of people who experience losses when trading is greater than those who get profits. This happens because
to be successful traders must have experience and the ability to analyze the market. If we really want to make trading a occupation we must
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I have been doing trading for the past year as a full time job and I don't see any reason to look at any direction. There is nothing that pays most especially when you learn the rudiment of trading.
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April 12, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
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Anything that bring food and pays up your bills is your occupation, trading is an occupation there are several people who have been trading all their lives and their life depends on trading so why would such not be an occupation? There are trading professional courses and certificate, people have been trading even before Bitcoin was introduced.
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If we have Stock brokers as a career then trading is definitely one of the best occupation we have in the world. Before the advent of cryptocurrencies there were traders who specialize on Stocks and they made their living from this source, so, if anyone will learn from these professionals then he/she can proudly said trading is my occupation. Well, don't miss-quote me here - when you're such that look for daily profit from trading you are just a trial and error guy - or looking for other signals for your trade you're unprofessional.

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If we have Stock brokers as a career then trading is definitely one of the best occupation we have in the world. Before the advent of cryptocurrencies there were traders who specialize on Stocks and they made their living from this source, so, if anyone will learn from these professionals then he/she can proudly said trading is my occupation. Well, don't miss-quote me here - when you're such that look for daily profit from trading you are just a trial and error guy - or looking for other signals for your trade you're unprofessional.

Trading is a business, a lucrative one at that if done right. The first step towards winning as a trader is to carry the right mindset. Once we're able to see trading as an occupation and give it our best just as how we do with our jobs, then we would be on track to succeed in the trading world. Even the local traders in  offline marketplaces consider trading as a occupation so why not crypto traders as well?

I have been doing trading for the past year as a full time job and I don't see any reason to look at any direction. There is nothing that pays most especially when you learn the rudiment of trading.

Seconded. A lot of people take trading as a carefree venture and end up losing money faster than they can profit.

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April 12, 2021, 09:30:55 PM
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According to many people, there are those who can say it as a job, some say that it is a side job. It depends on their own perception in my opinion, because many professional traders say that trading is their main job. so back to your own needs
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April 15, 2021, 11:09:10 AM
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According to many people, there are those who can say it as a job, some say that it is a side job. It depends on their own perception in my opinion, because many professional traders say that trading is their main job. so back to your own needs
Trading is an occupation because you also need to work for it in order to gain a profit, it is maybe a form of occupation that need knowledge and also skills to make a succesful trade and earn. There are full time trader and there are also part time trader some of theme considered trading as a part of thier daily works and some may trade in part time only whenever you are a part of full time or part time trader that still an occupation.

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April 15, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
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Yeah It's a occupation because here need to work and you have to skill. Skilled person gain success.

I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.

         
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According to many people, there are those who can say it as a job, some say that it is a side job. It depends on their own perception in my opinion, because many professional traders say that trading is their main job. so back to your own needs
But in my opinion, only professional traders can find chances to adopt trading as an occupation. Because, bitcoin market volatility is highly unpredictable which means most traders may fail time to time; hence adopting crypto trading as occupation may end up in big disasters over the time. But, the case will be complete different for professional traders as they know how to trade at times and when to stay away from markets.
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Trading can be an occupation to someone who is good enough or better still a professional in trading, there are most successful traders who earned their one year salary in a month in trading crypto currencies after putting so  much time in learning about trading, ok tell me what are we all working for? Is it not to make money! Or will you tell me you work because you enjoy the job your doing, if a person can make a fortune from trading cryptocurrencies and earn what is much more higher than what his occupation gives him tell me will such person not give up on his occupation and adopt trading as an occupation? The fact is trading is an occupation to those who are professionals.

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April 16, 2021, 08:29:27 PM
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I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.
        
Those people that have left the corporate job for the sake of trading, have found wealth and greatness on this occupation that they've seen.
It's better because they have already estimated the risk that they take and what's better on it is that the time they consume in the corporate job, travel and other stuff can simply be converted into their me-time.

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I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.
        
Those people that have left the corporate job for the sake of trading, have found wealth and greatness on this occupation that they've seen.
It's better because they have already estimated the risk that they take and what's better on it is that the time they consume in the corporate job, travel and other stuff can simply be converted into their me-time.
We do have our own will on making out decisions on our own and switching into something had already been decided basing off with those considerations.We cant just risk off our day stable job
into something which cant give out assurance but once you do able to handle out yourself with trading then i would say that it is worth.

Occupation is something you've dealt with full time and i do consider trading will be fitting out on that criteria which is a considerable thing for it to be called.

Its up to someone on how they could able to retain and sustain themselves with the market.Yes, its a risky one but very rewarding.

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April 16, 2021, 11:39:34 PM
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Trading can be an occupation to someone who is good enough or better still a professional in trading, there are most successful traders who earned their one year salary in a month in trading crypto currencies after putting so  much time in learning about trading, ok tell me what are we all working for? Is it not to make money! Or will you tell me you work because you enjoy the job your doing, if a person can make a fortune from trading cryptocurrencies and earn what is much more higher than what his occupation gives him tell me will such person not give up on his occupation and adopt trading as an occupation? The fact is trading is an occupation to those who are professionals.
It is, either way, we consider this as an occupation or not, what most important is that we can make money out of trading.

Besides, we find out that some jobless people take this as their source of income. I'm not sure if they are doing great or not, or possible that they can get more money than having a job. In fact, some professionals are giving up their position just for this and they actually consider trading as their new proffesion. That is their point of view on Trading and we can't argue with other people if they don't think about it as that is also their point of view.
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April 17, 2021, 02:13:26 AM
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Trading can be an occupation to someone who is good enough or better still a professional in trading, there are most successful traders who earned their one year salary in a month in trading crypto currencies after putting so  much time in learning about trading, ok tell me what are we all working for? Is it not to make money! Or will you tell me you work because you enjoy the job your doing, if a person can make a fortune from trading cryptocurrencies and earn what is much more higher than what his occupation gives him tell me will such person not give up on his occupation and adopt trading as an occupation? The fact is trading is an occupation to those who are professionals.
Yes is an occupation, because you are constantly researching and looking for a way to take advantage of the market, sincerely I would like to deal only with trade, but for trade it is necessary to have a lot of money, to be able to make a very good plan and have enough money for basic expenses However, I consider that to become a professional is when figures of $1M are handled.

I have read many books about trading, I follow Wyckoff's philosophy and I am a big fan of Jesse Livermore, Livermore was a great market speculator, almost every stock that he counts in his book explains in detail how he approached them and how he won and how He lost, he became a millionaire 5 times and went bankrupt 5 times, however he managed to get ahead and was able to write his books in an impressive way, those advice he gives are level 1A, for me they were great trading professionals.

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April 17, 2021, 06:43:58 AM
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I agree that currently unemployment is increasing, especially when the pandemic hits. the increase is very drastic. and these conditions force us to move to jobs that are not controlled by one boss. with crypto trading, everyone is entitled to a special place. Crypto trading is one solution to reduce unemployment in every country. at the same time enhancing the economy of the community.
The current rate of unemployment is very high, cause during the pandemic last year so many companies offloaded their workers, and it seems it's going to take a while before the unemployment rate will be reduced, Crypto trading can help those unemployed people earn a living, but it's very risky as the market is very volatile and does some strange things sometimes, I don't think crypto trading would help reduce the rate of unemployment in a country that much.

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April 17, 2021, 07:42:57 AM
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Any activity that generates income and can be sustenance is an occupation, we are in an era of jobs or income that are not subordinate to old social schemes in how an income should be received.

In general, regular / traditional income or jobs are governed by schemes that subjectively measure your performance in a job regardless of performance, some traditional jobs with just presence is enough.

This is not new, it has always existed throughout the history of humanity to consider certain occupations as not suitable to be called "work" or qualify as professions, what happens is that most people are not used to taking personal challenges , professionals, always go for a secure income and you add that they continue to believe in traditional academic or empirical training, to carry out any activity that generates income.

There are many "new" professions above trading that can be questioned as occupations... by the way, many do trade through bot, who do we designate the occupation?

In the reality of the responsibilities acquired as head of the family or being +18, what is really important is that the activity or occupation you do is honest.

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April 17, 2021, 09:52:01 PM
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I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.
        
Those people that have left the corporate job for the sake of trading, have found wealth and greatness on this occupation that they've seen.
It's better because they have already estimated the risk that they take and what's better on it is that the time they consume in the corporate job, travel and other stuff can simply be converted into their me-time.
We do have our own will on making out decisions on our own and switching into something had already been decided basing off with those considerations.We cant just risk off our day stable job
into something which cant give out assurance but once you do able to handle out yourself with trading then i would say that it is worth.

Occupation is something you've dealt with full time and i do consider trading will be fitting out on that criteria which is a considerable thing for it to be called.

Its up to someone on how they could able to retain and sustain themselves with the market.Yes, its a risky one but very rewarding.
It does fit the criteria and those who have become confident in it are going to easily make their lives better because they will only get into trading full time if they are quite good enough to make a decent living out of it.
Yes, definitely the risk is worth it if you have seen that your decisions made it well.

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April 17, 2021, 10:49:21 PM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.
I think Knowledge of the market is main thing you should have to know very first. without the market knowledge you are fail to to do anything.

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April 17, 2021, 11:51:49 PM
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I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.
        
Those people that have left the corporate job for the sake of trading, have found wealth and greatness on this occupation that they've seen.
It's better because they have already estimated the risk that they take and what's better on it is that the time they consume in the corporate job, travel and other stuff can simply be converted into their me-time.
We do have our own will on making out decisions on our own and switching into something had already been decided basing off with those considerations.We cant just risk off our day stable job
into something which cant give out assurance but once you do able to handle out yourself with trading then i would say that it is worth.

Occupation is something you've dealt with full time and i do consider trading will be fitting out on that criteria which is a considerable thing for it to be called.

Its up to someone on how they could able to retain and sustain themselves with the market.Yes, its a risky one but very rewarding.
It does fit the criteria and those who have become confident in it are going to easily make their lives better because they will only get into trading full time if they are quite good enough to make a decent living out of it.
Yes, definitely the risk is worth it if you have seen that your decisions made it well.
Possible but not all would really be that capable on doing so and only a few would able to make trading as a full time job or occupation which its true that it can be considered one.
This is truly attainable but not for all and it does take time and lots of efforts for you to reach out this certain state in a good trader or shall we considered to be a profitable one.
Trading could really be an occupation but going full time will really be taking lots of considerations whether you would go full scale on it or would be just good as a side income.
Not all would be capable but at least we are fully aware on the possible benefit that it can give.

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April 17, 2021, 11:54:46 PM
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I see some people left from Their job and accepted trading in their profession. So you can say it’s a profession.
        
Those people that have left the corporate job for the sake of trading, have found wealth and greatness on this occupation that they've seen.
It's better because they have already estimated the risk that they take and what's better on it is that the time they consume in the corporate job, travel and other stuff can simply be converted into their me-time.
We do have our own will on making out decisions on our own and switching into something had already been decided basing off with those considerations.We cant just risk off our day stable job
into something which cant give out assurance but once you do able to handle out yourself with trading then i would say that it is worth.

Occupation is something you've dealt with full time and i do consider trading will be fitting out on that criteria which is a considerable thing for it to be called.

Its up to someone on how they could able to retain and sustain themselves with the market.Yes, its a risky one but very rewarding.
It does fit the criteria and those who have become confident in it are going to easily make their lives better because they will only get into trading full time if they are quite good enough to make a decent living out of it.
Yes, definitely the risk is worth it if you have seen that your decisions made it well.
Possible but not all would really be that capable on doing so and only a few would able to make trading as a full time job or occupation which its true that it can be considered one.
This is truly attainable but not for all and it does take time and lots of efforts for you to reach out this certain state in a good trader or shall we considered to be a profitable one.
Trading could really be an occupation but going full time will really be taking lots of considerations whether you would go full scale on it or would be just good as a side income.
Not all would be capable but at least we are fully aware on the possible benefit that it can give.

It is true that not all can afford trading to be their full time job. If you are just a beginner, it is better for you to make your trading activities as just another source of income. But we can't deny the fact that there are really people who are in full time doing the trading. Those are people who already knows the ins and outs of this industry, and they can very well afford to live only with trading. For sure, before they gained such status, they experienced a lot of ups and downs in this market. It is not an overnight task to learn.
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April 18, 2021, 04:12:25 AM
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Trading in cryptocurrency is like an opportunity to everyone were We are all able to earn but also can loss our investment as well if we become neglectful in the end.  It can also become a job as well depending on how you treat it but there is not fix amount of profit that should be done everyday, weeks, or months.

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April 18, 2021, 08:50:28 AM
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It does fit the criteria and those who have become confident in it are going to easily make their lives better because they will only get into trading full time if they are quite good enough to make a decent living out of it.
Yes, definitely the risk is worth it if you have seen that your decisions made it well.
Possible but not all would really be that capable on doing so and only a few would able to make trading as a full time job or occupation which its true that it can be considered one.
This is truly attainable but not for all and it does take time and lots of efforts for you to reach out this certain state in a good trader or shall we considered to be a profitable one.
Trading could really be an occupation but going full time will really be taking lots of considerations whether you would go full scale on it or would be just good as a side income.
Not all would be capable but at least we are fully aware on the possible benefit that it can give.
Yes, it's already known that not all can be capable of becoming a full-time trader, and I said only those who are confident that can make a living do it.
Those that have decided to become full-time are the ones that have learned the hard way and they understand the fundamentals of the market and they know how to read charts.

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April 18, 2021, 08:59:12 AM
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According to many people, there are those who can say it as a job, some say that it is a side job. It depends on their own perception in my opinion, because many professional traders say that trading is their main job. so back to your own needs

Most people treat business as a side business because normal trading does not require your full time. You can trade on your phone while being on your day job also.
Only a very few people who are mostly doing day trading needs a ful day focus on trading and therefore they can take it as a profession but for that you need to have a lot of experience in trading.
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April 18, 2021, 09:09:17 AM
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According to many people, there are those who can say it as a job, some say that it is a side job. It depends on their own perception in my opinion, because many professional traders say that trading is their main job. so back to your own needs

Most people treat business as a side business because normal trading does not require your full time. You can trade on your phone while being on your day job also.
Only a very few people who are mostly doing day trading needs a ful day focus on trading and therefore they can take it as a profession but for that you need to have a lot of experience in trading.
There are many people who make shit ton of money from trading and still consider it a side job. There are still many pro traders who have regular jobs, perhaps as a means to get their main income (although sometimes the money generated from trading is more). So it depends on how you think about it, if you quit your main job to pursue profit from trading, I think you can call trading your job.
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It can be an occupation and a full-time job if you're one of those 5% of traders that are making decent profit on average and over all good at it, otherwise the answer is no if you're one of the 95% that sooner or later will end up losing money.

Also keep in mind that as of now we're in a bull market, and what it means is that it's just too easy to just buy something now and make some good money a few days later, but if you want to take trading as your full-time job you have to be good at trading on bear market too, which is the real challenge and will really test out your ability at trading under real pressure while everything is mostly going down and you probably have to start learning to short coins/tokens.
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April 18, 2021, 11:31:00 AM
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Depends on how much you make? I mean if you think about it, if you make good enough money that you can either keep making the same amount of money forever so that you can live with that, or even harder where you spend some of that money and you increase your capital at the same time just in case.

If you are capable of doing these things (some people are) that means it is an occupation for you, I know people who have been trading for the past 3 years, dude took 30k dollars into 2 million dollars and that is his occupation, whatever he buys he buys from his capital and still managed to increase it, he quit his job and just does this full time for the past 8 months or so as well, he was in profit before that but he is now just way too rich to go to work anyway. So there are people who can do it as occupation, but that doesn't mean that everyone can do it.

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April 20, 2021, 07:28:37 AM
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Depends on how much you make? I mean if you think about it, if you make good enough money that you can either keep making the same amount of money forever so that you can live with that, or even harder where you spend some of that money and you increase your capital at the same time just in case.

If you are capable of doing these things (some people are) that means it is an occupation for you, I know people who have been trading for the past 3 years, dude took 30k dollars into 2 million dollars and that is his occupation, whatever he buys he buys from his capital and still managed to increase it, he quit his job and just does this full time for the past 8 months or so as well, he was in profit before that but he is now just way too rich to go to work anyway. So there are people who can do it as occupation, but that doesn't mean that everyone can do it.

Yeah, it all depends on the person. There are those who just fill their spare time to trade, there are people who make a living from trading. Of course, all of these options are yours, you want to have trading as your main job, or you just want to trade part time to fill your spare time, all options I think are equally profitable.

Usually those who do it as the main job will have a daily, weekly or monthly target. Depending on how, your ability to get it. For me, as long as it's enough for my daily needs, I think it's enough, and more profits can be saved for the long term in the future. Because, if we are too chasing the target, it will not be achieved, there are times when the conditions in the market are not good, it will make it difficult for you to get profit from there. Don't push yourself too much to chase targets when you are in bad shape, both physically and mentally, it can all cause a lack of focus and confidence to make decisions, as well as emotions that are chaotic. As a worker, don't be fixated on the target, but be grateful for what you get on that day. You can start again tomorrow, don't give up if what you find is failure, it is part of your process to move forward.
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April 20, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
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if you make good enough money that you can either keep making the same amount of money forever so that you can live with that, or even harder where you spend some of that money and you increase your capital at the same time just in case.
You mean that if a trader is capable of managing their trading capital without any need of refilling it and making good returns out of it, then such traders would consider their trading activities as an occupation? I can get you and it seems a really good point. Because, when you are needing to add more funds to your trading capital then there will be no point of continuing it. You must need to do so when you are not making profits and you are booking losses. When you never need to add more money to your capital, it means you are already doing perfect and making some returns from that will not be a problem for you. In this case you can continue it as your occupation.

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I think that trading is an occupation since a lot of people have in the financial industry are traders, it doesn't look like one because you are a freelance trader that doesn't work for a company. To everyone that considers making trading as an occupation, you probably have to really evaluate your skills because trading is not fruitful for everyone so if you think that you are not good, you should probably choose another career path.

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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.

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April 20, 2021, 01:31:38 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
I also believe that trading is a kind of occupation it is a work that also needs effort to earn profit, you need to work or fucos on it to avoid a big lose, because trading is not an easy work it is a very risky work it needs experience and we need to be smart to avoid losing of funds. So we also need to be careful just like some other work for good.
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April 20, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
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If you are capable of doing these things (some people are) that means it is an occupation for you, I know people who have been trading for the past 3 years, dude took 30k dollars into 2 million dollars and that is his occupation, whatever he buys he buys from his capital and still managed to increase it, he quit his job and just does this full time for the past 8 months or so as well, he was in profit before that but he is now just way too rich to go to work anyway. So there are people who can do it as occupation, but that doesn't mean that everyone can do it.

Those are the lucky few though I would say,,, the majority of traders I know make some money in bullruns and then proceed to lose it all when the bubbles explode. Then they make the mistake of entering in more bankrolls, many with debt or assets they cannot afford to lose.

There is no coincidence that statistics show most traders lose money. They treat it as a job for guaranteed profits when we all know there is a large element of luck involved.

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April 20, 2021, 03:08:07 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
You make a point but it not only something man invested his time is called occupation, there are some people that invested their time on something that are absolutely sense.
What do we call occupation?  Occupation can be work, duty or an assignment man executed as a means of earning a living. Everything you do to earn a living is an occupation so trading can see as an occupation

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April 20, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
I also believe that trading is a kind of occupation it is a work that also needs effort to earn profit, you need to work or fucos on it to avoid a big lose, because trading is not an easy work it is a very risky work it needs experience and we need to be smart to avoid losing of funds. So we also need to be careful just like some other work for good.
- More exactly, trading is a very specific job and only a few people have the right conditions to stick to this job, the particularity of this job is as meaningful as many people say, a lot of factors have to be met, such as experience and skills, and luck is equally important. Due to the qualities it carries the colors and talents of such individuals, even if it is a job, I still discourage us from putting all our thoughts into it, a basic experience will be better thinking, the ambition of becoming a talent here is very difficult


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April 20, 2021, 04:03:12 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
You make a point but it not only something man invested his time is called occupation, there are some people that invested their time on something that are absolutely sense.
What do we call occupation?  Occupation can be work, duty or an assignment man executed as a means of earning a living. Everything you do to earn a living is an occupation so trading can see as an occupation
Yes, trading and investing are two very different methods and in general, investing looks for a bigger profit in a trading period by buying assets and holding sales for a very long time.
and traders on the other hand take advantage of the ups and downs of market prices for shorter trading durations, with smaller assets, but more trading frequency.
and trading must be done full time to keep an eye on market movements and that equals decent work for workers, and investing without having to use the Trading method, investing only buying coins when prices are low then holding them for a very long time to make big profits.

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April 20, 2021, 08:10:05 PM
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if you make good enough money that you can either keep making the same amount of money forever so that you can live with that, or even harder where you spend some of that money and you increase your capital at the same time just in case.
You mean that if a trader is capable of managing their trading capital without any need of refilling it and making good returns out of it, then such traders would consider their trading activities as an occupation? I can get you and it seems a really good point. Because, when you are needing to add more funds to your trading capital then there will be no point of continuing it. You must need to do so when you are not making profits and you are booking losses. When you never need to add more money to your capital, it means you are already doing perfect and making some returns from that will not be a problem for you. In this case you can continue it as your occupation.
Yeah, for many it is an occupation in their minds, not in their pockets. That's the problem, we are talking about a world where it is really not that easy to become a great trader, because most people just want to make money and that's it. The real traders who make profit end up being the people who like the process and not just the profit at the end of it, that's the real secret. If you like being a good trader, if you like reading charts, if you like looking at indicators, if you like studying new stuff, basically if you like being on the road that means you will reach your destination.

But, there are so many people who do not care about any of that, and just focus on making profit and those people end up losing a lot of money, that is the problem these days, because they only care about money and not "how" to make money which ends up being their problem.
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April 20, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
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If you are capable of doing these things (some people are) that means it is an occupation for you, I know people who have been trading for the past 3 years, dude took 30k dollars into 2 million dollars and that is his occupation, whatever he buys he buys from his capital and still managed to increase it, he quit his job and just does this full time for the past 8 months or so as well, he was in profit before that but he is now just way too rich to go to work anyway. So there are people who can do it as occupation, but that doesn't mean that everyone can do it.

Those are the lucky few though I would say,,, the majority of traders I know make some money in bullruns and then proceed to lose it all when the bubbles explode. Then they make the mistake of entering in more bankrolls, many with debt or assets they cannot afford to lose.

There is no coincidence that statistics show most traders lose money. They treat it as a job for guaranteed profits when we all know there is a large element of luck involved.
This is true and really the reality towards trading activity on where this isn't something that do talk about success profit making because this isnt the thing the do happen
in reality.For those who do shows off about big profits then we don't know on what are the things that they had experienced before they do able to make out money
in the market and for sure it isnt something that simple as it sounds even though people are really that eager to deal off with the market even with that slight
probabilities.We cant deny that luck is indeed a bit part of this market for you to deal on.

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April 20, 2021, 09:09:00 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
It's an occupation. It's only risky for those who are new to it and yet they've taken the post as if they can take the risk of it. But in the end, they'll be able to see how risky it is and they'll realize that it's not for them because of the risk that it brings to them on day to day basis.
As you invest your time on it, you'll grow from it and such experiences will be used and valuable if you ever want to pursue it as an occupation replacing your main job.

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April 20, 2021, 11:40:40 PM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
It's an occupation. It's only risky for those who are new to it and yet they've taken the post as if they can take the risk of it. But in the end, they'll be able to see how risky it is and they'll realize that it's not for them because of the risk that it brings to them on day to day basis.
As you invest your time on it, you'll grow from it and such experiences will be used and valuable if you ever want to pursue it as an occupation replacing your main job.
Entering into something just like this without knowledge is a suicide.
definitely right, trading is not for everyone and this is for sure not for emotional individuals. No matter what the other people say that trading is profitable but if you can't handle the stress, it easily makes you down and paralyzes you.

Anyway, why not try, who knows? But we should always remember that not all the time that the market went smoothly.

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April 21, 2021, 02:35:20 AM
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Trading can be treated as occupation because it needs lots of hard work to become a real trader. Some works influenced by local societies but trading is influenced by larger communities. It can be a high profit or big loss game. Trading can be occupation for a experienced trader not for newbie or those who doesn't serach about projects and looking into their future aspects. In our world buy and sell is happening with other commodities that's why trading is a smart occupation for smart people. Preparing a good portfolio and trade you will get profits from trades.
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April 21, 2021, 07:16:20 AM
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for many people including professional traders, trading is a great job and can be done because the profits they get are very large. but we need to know that in order to make trading the main job, skill and ability to trade must be needed, because in trading there is no tolerance whatsoever if we experience defeat

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April 21, 2021, 07:50:37 AM
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I also believe that trading is a kind of occupation it is a work that also needs effort to earn profit, you need to work or fucos on it to avoid a big lose, because trading is not an easy work it is a very risky work it needs experience and we need to be smart to avoid losing of funds. So we also need to be careful just like some other work for good.

It is indeed true, trading can be classified as occupation and like applying for a job in a business world trading has also kind os specifications and skills needed to be able to ffit yourself in this kind of job. What makes it more unique in my own opinion was the thought that here you can have your own time management, there is no boss that would point you out do this do that, you are the boss but trading has a risk and might cost your time depend on how you dealt with trading properly.

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April 21, 2021, 11:28:48 AM
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I think trading is an occupation. When you invest your time specifically then it should be an occupation.
Though it's a risky occupation.
You make a point but it not only something man invested his time is called occupation, there are some people that invested their time on something that are absolutely sense.
What do we call occupation?  Occupation can be work, duty or an assignment man executed as a means of earning a living. Everything you do to earn a living is an occupation so trading can see as an occupation
Yes, trading and investing are two very different methods and in general, investing looks for a bigger profit in a trading period by buying assets and holding sales for a very long time.
and traders on the other hand take advantage of the ups and downs of market prices for shorter trading durations, with smaller assets, but more trading frequency.
and trading must be done full time to keep an eye on market movements and that equals decent work for workers, and investing without having to use the Trading method, investing only buying coins when prices are low then holding them for a very long time to make big profits.
Trading and investing are not different method because they both involve taking risk but traders spend more in the market than investors and it all investor that are looking for bigger profit. However, both traders and investors take advantage of the market up and down price trend but it all depend on individuals knowledge about crypto currency market.
With that been said, the topic was is crypto can call occupation.

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April 21, 2021, 11:38:13 AM
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However, both traders and investors take advantage of the market up and down price trend but it all depend on individuals knowledge about crypto currency market.
With that been said, the topic was is crypto can call occupation.

Its not talking advantage beacuse not all of us traders really make money in trading, remember that we traders are betting against each other's prediction on the price movement, hence if one profited, the other will loss, that's how simple it is, therefore it cannot be an opportunity for all of us.

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However, both traders and investors take advantage of the market up and down price trend but it all depend on individuals knowledge about crypto currency market.
With that been said, the topic was, can we call crypto trading an occupation.

Its not talking advantage beacuse not all of us traders really make money in trading, remember that we traders are betting against each other's prediction on the price movement, hence if one profited, the other will loss, that's how simple it is, therefore it cannot be an opportunity for all of us.
Which way you look at it, it still an opportunity cause opportunity can also be a chance. I Google opportunity it says "a time or set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something."
Although the result may not be positive base on your example it still an opportunity.

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April 21, 2021, 02:55:39 PM
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I think trading is a profession and it appeared a long time ago, before the cryptocurrency market there were a lot of people trading on the Gold and stock markets.
However, this is a profession that requires a lot of things, you need to have experience, knowledge, skills and always learn.
It could be a good profession if you have much knowledge behind that as you said. It os always a tough place where you can earn but have too much risk if you don't know everything well. However a large number of trader are taking it as a profession but their much experienced and skilled . Howvere before taking it as a profession you have to be experienced and skilled.

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To choose a business as a profession one must have knowledge and skills about business that do not choose a profession can analyze every site of many skilled businesses the skills and experience required for a business career may vary based on the specific job you seek. Gaining special knowledge and skills for business requires application by individuals in their respective professions through traditional learning and practical experience traders go ahead with the risk they are very successful.
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I guess trading is an occupation. Traders acquired so much degree to know more about trading and some consequences that attached to trading in the market. many investors has engaged their self in bitcoin investment to make sure they earn profit from their trade. Investors has acquired so many strategies and experience from trading, which has took them so many years to become a professional trader in the field.

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April 21, 2021, 07:49:28 PM
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However, both traders and investors take advantage of the market up and down price trend but it all depend on individuals knowledge about crypto currency market.
With that been said, the topic was, can we call crypto trading an occupation.

Its not talking advantage beacuse not all of us traders really make money in trading, remember that we traders are betting against each other's prediction on the price movement, hence if one profited, the other will loss, that's how simple it is, therefore it cannot be an opportunity for all of us.
Which way you look at it, it still an opportunity cause opportunity can also be a chance. I Google opportunity it says "a time or set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something."
Although the result may not be positive base on your example it still an opportunity.
This is true, plus as I have always said, trading is a not a zero sum game, someone can buy at 10, sell at 20, while other will buy from him at 20 but sell at 30 and it goes on like that, which means you can go up like this 10 times and down crashing once making 10 people win money while only one lose money. This means it is not a zero sum thing, trading still makes a profit, all depending on what you are looking at. The opportunity to make money is there, it all depends on the market working together and it all depends on how people react to it.

I have been trading rarely, I usually do a long term purchase, only a small portion of my portfolio is for trading, but I can tell you that I have seen people who trade and make a lot of money, but we are in a bull run, so many people traded and made some money, I do not think that one has to lose for the other to win.
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April 21, 2021, 08:35:46 PM
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I guess trading is an occupation. Traders acquired so much degree to know more about trading and some consequences that attached to trading in the market. many investors has engaged their self in bitcoin investment to make sure they earn profit from their trade. Investors has acquired so many strategies and experience from trading, which has took them so many years to become a professional trader in the field.
Yeah I know the moment I was a day trader, I noticed that my wallet wasn't empty for some times and that I made gains everyday while every part of my bills weren't having problem, I came saw trading could be an alternative way of bringing in income into the family but so many people think you are been lazy.



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April 21, 2021, 08:55:31 PM
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Trading can turn to occupation when you are active towards it, because nothing is occupation, occupation can really  exist base on regularity or constant practice, regularity, seriousness, much inquisitive, consciousness, activeness, so from these scenario if any part of work that contain this six (6) factors that involves occupation, meaning that whoever that engage or adventure into trading basically it's he or her occupation, using manual and online business as simple illustrations, selling goods and services is am occupation, lecturing people and earn a small money is occupation.

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