Stake vs Bet365: The Live Streaming Battle

[Pmalek]

If you play small markets (Croatian 3rd football league) you will get limited pretty fast, especially if it's prematch bet.

If you live in Croatia and place big money bets on low division teams it's kind of understandable that the bookie will start asking questions who you are and who you might know. The lower the league, the bigger the incentive for illegal activities such as match fixing. I usually don't play like that, that's why I have managed to keep myself out of trouble.   

[Adzivu]

It's not match fixing if you know team brought 4 new players to the club (one of which was a standard GK for the 2nd league team).

It's finding value.

Sports betting is all about finding value.

Hell, I even bet on NBA when the news comes that New Orleans will play G-League team. It doesn't guarantee your bet on the other team will win, but it certainly is a great value.

[LTU_btc]

If you play small markets (Croatian 3rd football league) you will get limited pretty fast, especially if it's prematch bet.

If you live in Croatia and place big money bets on low division teams it's kind of understandable that the bookie will start asking questions who you are and who you might know. The lower the league, the bigger the incentive for illegal activities such as match fixing. I usually don't play like that, that's why I have managed to keep myself out of trouble.   

Also, another factor that there is significantly less money involved in these lower division markets simply because there is not so many people are betting on it. So, when someone puts big stake on it, offcourse it may look suspicious for bookmaker.
I like phrase that @Adzivu said above - sports is all about finding value. But obviously, bookmakers don't like oeople who find it .
Personally I haven't faced this thing, but from what I saw on various groups, limiting Bet365 accounts isn't very rare thing.

[Saint-loup]

It's really no surprise given the fact that Stake was launched way later than Bet365, and Bet365 is just a more established company and can afford to invest in a ton of network infrastructure.

But I am really impressed with Stake, honestly. Given the fact that it is a purely crypto casino that spawned out of a dice site, it is doing awfully well in terms of converging with the industry norm when it comes to adding features.

If only more services in the crypto world can get closer to the quality delivered by their fiat counterparts... That would be the ultimate catalyst for mass adoption.

In my opinion sportsbooks like Stake are already above many fiat counterparts actually, so I'm not sure mass adoption is slowed down by the "quality" as you said or the features available or not on those platforms. The reluctance is more related to concerns about exit scams, hacks and high transaction fees widespread in the crypto gambling industry unfortunately.

[rdbase]

Livestreaming of sporting events are a slippery slope indeed.
They have licensing and quality concerns to think about when launching them initially.
From Stake I watched the very first stream of theirs when they announced the sponsorship of the TT-Cup mid last year and that was the only time I actually watched a live event on their stream.
Never used the bet365 service as I have never bet on their site but wouldn't doubt it would be any different from 1xbet site with their live streaming yet you need to be registered to watch any stream of theirs.

[Pmalek]

Never used the bet365 service as I have never bet on their site but wouldn't doubt it would be any different from 1xbet site with their live streaming yet you need to be registered to watch any stream of theirs.

I have tried 1xbet in the past and it's not the same as bet365. 1xbet has a much smaller streaming offer. What I have discovered is that the streams 1xbet offers are in 99% also available on bet365. The advantage bet365 has over 1xbet in those situations is a better delay. For football matches, it's not a big difference, 1-2 seconds, sometimes a bit more. The read advantage is visible for other sports like ice hockey, basketball, handball, etc. For some reason, bet365 can be ahead 5-10 seconds.

[aysg76]

A great topic by @OP and give detailed information about both the casinos Bet365 and Stake which are very popular among gamblers one for fiat transaction and other for crypto related transactions respectively.No doubt when we compare them both Bet365 has marginal growth win rate due to it's high quality streaming features and providing user with vast gambling experience.But as said by OP if you want to watch any live stream you need to fund your account 24 hours before the event with any bet you want to place.But we can't say Stake is not good because it is one of the most preferred casino in crypto market and provide users with many benefits like you can watch live events freely(low quality) and have instant withdrawal.So they both have their own benefit.

[Joca97]

Never used the bet365 service as I have never bet on their site but wouldn't doubt it would be any different from 1xbet site with their live streaming yet you need to be registered to watch any stream of theirs.

I have tried 1xbet in the past and it's not the same as bet365. 1xbet has a much smaller streaming offer. What I have discovered is that the streams 1xbet offers are in 99% also available on bet365. The advantage bet365 has over 1xbet in those situations is a better delay. For football matches, it's not a big difference, 1-2 seconds, sometimes a bit more. The read advantage is visible for other sports like ice hockey, basketball, handball, etc. For some reason, bet365 can be ahead 5-10 seconds.

1XBet lags a lot and hard to get in sometimes on the site,while for bet365 its easy and o most isnt late ever the stream
Thats why i love using bet365 so much. But now my country banned it for some reason so i can only use it over wifi

[Pmalek]

But now my country banned it for some reason so i can only use it over wifi

WIFI? I guess you were trying to say VPN? In my experience, bet365 has a very good detection rate and a strict policy when it comes to using VPNs. With some VPN providers that work with many other sites, I can't even load bet365 because they are blocked. If the bookie is banned in your location, I would never advise that players attempt to deposit money to it. It could be seen as a breach of the terms and detected quickly if you are unlucky.   

[LTU_btc]

WIFI? I guess you were trying to say VPN? In my experience, bet365 has a very good detection rate and a strict policy when it comes to using VPNs. With some VPN providers that work with many other sites, I can't even load bet365 because they are blocked. If the bookie is banned in your location, I would never advise that players attempt to deposit money to it. It could be seen as a breach of the terms and detected quickly if you are unlucky.   

Well, Bet365 is blocked in my country too, but they actually accept users from my country. But using it through VPN solution. They have many mirror links to access website. For example, it looks like this one https://mobile.38-365365.com/
Problem that these link is getting blocked often too, so you have to find new one.

[Botnake]

Great share, I've been looking for some free live streaming and I find bet365 hard to use, so I'll try stake.com, but based on what you posted, you can'd do a full screen, I guess that would limit some excitment. Anyway, I would still try, thanks for sharing. 

[Pmalek]

Great share, I've been looking for some free live streaming and I find bet365 hard to use, so I'll try stake.com, but based on what you posted, you can'd do a full screen, I guess that would limit some excitment. Anyway, I would still try, thanks for sharing. 

There actually is an easy trick to overcome that problem with the small streaming window. I didn't think of it while writing this thread.

1. Download the Maximize Video extension for Chrome or Firefox.
2. Click on the streaming icon of the game you want to watch to open the small streaming window.
3. Click on the Maximize Video extension and then click inside the streaming window.

The stream will widen to almost full-screen. This is how it will look:

   

[vennali]

Firefox is amazing for these and thats my go to browser when I watch streams on 365. @Pmalek have you tried sportbet.one? they have free streams for pretty much all the games listed on their sportsbook. Maybe give it a try. It doesnt have any country restriction. So, it can be used everywhere.

Never used the bet365 service as I have never bet on their site but wouldn't doubt it would be any different from 1xbet site with their live streaming yet you need to be registered to watch any stream of theirs.

I have tried 1xbet in the past and it's not the same as bet365. 1xbet has a much smaller streaming offer. What I have discovered is that the streams 1xbet offers are in 99% also available on bet365. The advantage bet365 has over 1xbet in those situations is a better delay. For football matches, it's not a big difference, 1-2 seconds, sometimes a bit more. The read advantage is visible for other sports like ice hockey, basketball, handball, etc. For some reason, bet365 can be ahead 5-10 seconds.

Streaming wise, I think bet365 is the fastest out there. Most of them don't have commentary either since the streams are pretty much pre-production. So, some of the delay on live stream is avoided. Few sports are post production like MLB and main tennis events but still they are somehow faster than most streams available.

[Pmalek]

@Pmalek have you tried sportbet.one? they have free streams for pretty much all the games listed on their sportsbook. Maybe give it a try. It doesnt have any country restriction. So, it can be used everywhere.

No, I have never heard of or tried that particular site. I will bookmark it and try it out later. Thanks for the tip, appreciated!

Streaming wise, I think bet365 is the fastest out there. Most of them don't have commentary either since the streams are pretty much pre-production. So, some of the delay on live stream is avoided. Few sports are post production like MLB and main tennis events but still they are somehow faster than most streams available.

Have you ever compared the quality on sportbet.one with bet365 and what did you notice? I will definitely try it myself as I am interested how much delayed it is.

NHL matches also have post-production including professional commentary and replays. The best thing of all is that they stream every single NHL match live and those can be hard to acquire especially for European viewers. 

[vennali]

@Pmalek have you tried sportbet.one? they have free streams for pretty much all the games listed on their sportsbook. Maybe give it a try. It doesnt have any country restriction. So, it can be used everywhere.

No, I have never heard of or tried that particular site. I will bookmark it and try it out later. Thanks for the tip, appreciated!

Streaming wise, I think bet365 is the fastest out there. Most of them don't have commentary either since the streams are pretty much pre-production. So, some of the delay on live stream is avoided. Few sports are post production like MLB and main tennis events but still they are somehow faster than most streams available.

Have you ever compared the quality on sportbet.one with bet365 and what did you notice? I will definitely try it myself as I am interested how much delayed it is.

NHL matches also have post-production including professional commentary and replays. The best thing of all is that they stream every single NHL match live and those can be hard to acquire especially for European viewers. 

I looked at it again, I think there's a huge possibility that they are suing the same service that 1xbet uses. So, the timings would be similar. Best thing is that it isnt region locked so, it works wherever you are. Without VPN.

[South Park]

This is really interesting, I did not even knew this was possible but it is incredible that cryptocurrency casinos are reaching this level of quality so soon, lets just hope other casinos begin to offer the same kind of service as this is important as not everyone has access to watch those games and this could be a good option to increase the demand of sports bets in many casinos, after all if people know they can watch the game as it is happening then they will be more willing to bet on exotic markets.

[Saint-loup]

This is really interesting, I did not even knew this was possible but it is incredible that cryptocurrency casinos are reaching this level of quality so soon, lets just hope other casinos begin to offer the same kind of service as this is important as not everyone has access to watch those games and this could be a good option to increase the demand of sports bets in many casinos, after all if people know they can watch the game as it is happening then they will be more willing to bet on exotic markets.

What are you talking about South Park? Bet365 is not a "cryptocurrency casino", only Stake allows to deposit and to gamble with cryptocurrencies here, that's why I think it was a little bit unfair for it to be compared with such a big and old fiat sportsbook...

I looked at it again, I think there's a huge possibility that they are suing the same service that 1xbet uses. So, the timings would be similar. Best thing is that it isnt region locked so, it works wherever you are. Without VPN.

That's a very interesting information, thank you for sharing it. Do you know if they offer live streams not available on Stake?

[seleme]

Bet365 definitely leads on this comparison, the only downside is the lack of opportunity for depositing cryptocurrencies. Stake also offers better bonuses and their VIP rewards system is second to none among crypto bookies. Regarding the stream quality and site design, bet365 is the winner. Btw, the lagging odds and lack of cashout function make it worse to bet on Stake.

This is really interesting, I did not even knew this was possible but it is incredible that cryptocurrency casinos are reaching this level of quality so soon, lets just hope other casinos begin to offer the same kind of service as this is important as not everyone has access to watch those games and this could be a good option to increase the demand of sports bets in many casinos, after all if people know they can watch the game as it is happening then they will be more willing to bet on exotic markets.

Some Malta-licensed casinos-bookies have no such option but for whatever reason, this is mostly possible on Curacaos licensed sports bookies. Ofc, the punters enjoy more with live stream but it is hard to find all in single bookie nowadays. Just my 2 cents.

[nelson4lov]

Bet365 definitely leads on this comparison, the only downside is the lack of opportunity for depositing cryptocurrencies. Stake also offers better bonuses and their VIP rewards system is second to none among crypto bookies. Regarding the stream quality and site design, bet365 is the winner. Btw, the lagging odds and lack of cashout function make it worse to bet on Stake.

I think this is due to the fact that it hasn't been long since Stake introduced sports streaming to their platform and over time, the team has been trying to improve their streaming services but things like this would take time to become up to par with others so I'm with the stake team on this one. The only time I streamed at stake was during the SuperBowl LV Game earlier this year and the experience wasn't so bad but there's still work to be done.

[Pmalek]

I looked at it again, I think there's a huge possibility that they are suing the same service that 1xbet uses. So, the timings would be similar.

I am familiar with the 1xbet streams. They are similar to bet365. In my experience, if both sportsbooks offer the same match in livestream, 1xbet is 1-2 seconds slower. The quality of 1xbet streams is questionable though. I have seen them freeze, go dark, or not even start at times. 

...only Stake allows to deposit and to gamble with cryptocurrencies here, that's why I think it was a little bit unfair for it to be compared with such a big and old fiat sportsbook...

You have to compare yourself with the best, that's the only way to grow and improve. To become #1, you have to overtake the leader.

Do you know if they offer live streams not available on Stake?

If they use the same streaming providers as 1xbet, I am sure they have a wider offer of matches for live streaming.