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April 08, 2021, 10:28:00 PM
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I  agree that gambling isn't an investment (not in any way!), but there's something in stating that investment is gambling. There's critical thinking, but there are also chances in there. No one can know for sure which assets/businesses/realty, etc. will bring money. People lose a lot of money investing as much as gamblers lose while playing. And the risk in gambling isn't always higher, it all depends on the odds. Someone can only play games with 50/50 chance which won't be riskier, than investments.
And about the motive. I can say, that many people, though it's irrational, view gambling as a way of making money and not entertainment. That's where the addiction comes from...
Though I wonder if continuous investments can also be considered an addiction?
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April 08, 2021, 10:43:33 PM
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Every type of earning in crypto has a certain risk in it, We can't deny the risk on crypto and it will depend on the method you are using on how much risk you are facing. Well, luck isn't the only factor in betting, There are strategies, techniques, current emotion, and other big factors that can affect the winning chance on your gambling session.  I agree that investment is more on a business-type model and most certainly safe especially if you have the skills to foresee the project's future with your research and analysis.

Unfortunately some other people didn't realize that they're making gambling as investments, but the reality doesn't coincide on their expectations. They're struggling to beat the system of gambling, the emotions was more stressful compared to business investments because losses was too big than risking your money on business.
At least if you're doing business, there's a chance to recover your capital rather losing everything in betting with gambling.
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April 08, 2021, 11:12:32 PM
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(a) In investing, you expect moderate returns, whereas in gambling, the returns expected are very high and sometimes very ridiculous.
Whatever it is, they have the same goal to earn profit.
Just like a coin, they had the same risk in the same face but on another side they have different both the same goal, to earn money.
But the good side ion investing is in the long run you will still able to gain profit while gambling there is an expected negative return that will I guess burn out all your money.

That is why we always advise people that should always think to gamble only if they can afford it, not too much pay attention to gambling if you did not have enough time.

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April 09, 2021, 01:29:25 AM
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(a) In investing, you expect moderate returns, whereas in gambling, the returns expected are very high and sometimes very ridiculous.

There are as many investment options as there are gambling games. The risks vary. There are investments with low, medium, and high risk but the higher the risk the higher the potential profit. The same goes with gambling.

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(b) There is a medium to long term planning in view, whereas in gambling, the returns is in view is short term.

I agree with this. While you can bet on something which could be settled months or even years later, gambling is still generally short-term.
 
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(c) There is a risk involved in investment, but the risk is moderate. The risk in gambling is high.

Again, it depends. There are investments with high risk. On the other hand, there are also gambling with low risk.

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(d) The motive behind investing is safety of capital and stability of one's returns, while the motive behind gambling is entertainment while making money.

As investment risk varies, the safety of capital also varies. But it is up to you to invest with a low-risk or a high-risk. As with gambling, making money should never be a motive.



If I were to summarize the difference between investing and gambling, I'd say gambling is the opposite of investing. Investing is done to make money while gambling is done to lose it.  

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April 09, 2021, 03:13:17 AM
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If I were to summarize the difference between investing and gambling, I'd say gambling is the opposite of investing. Investing is done to make money while gambling is done to lose it.  
^ Definitely right, but these two cannot be associated because, for me, investment is way too far from gambling. There are two things that could properly explain their difference. And here they are below:
1. Investment is putting your money into something with security. There might be possible risks, but those risks are addressed and resolved, in the other side, placing bets will never give you any security and agreement form to liquidate your money.
2. Investment can be done with proper planning and studies in order to be profitable, but gambling is for guessing and trying your luck (unless you manipulate it).
I dunno why OP trying to compare this thing.
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April 09, 2021, 03:27:24 AM
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It would be easier if you specified what investment we are talking to here since they also have different levels of risk like gambling. Let me give an example, let's say you're gonna invest your money in a business (your business), it's doing great on the start but suddenly your number of customers went down after a new business open in your neighborhood therefore your sales went down as well, so the risk is high but it just looked it is low risk but as soon as you lost your customer, it became a high risk.

Now in gambling, let's say DICE, the risk is slow and high. Others want to start risking low by betting small amount high multiplier and the other way around. However, the only difference is that like what OP said, investment is for long term and gambling is for short term.
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April 09, 2021, 03:48:28 AM
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Well, from a customer (or investor) perspective, business is something which is impacted by everything including luck, but that luck plays a very very little role, like, if you put the same effort you may get a profit of x$ today but on same effort it can be y$ tomorrow etc, while in gambling, the whole thing depends on only luck and luck, nothing else, hence it's not to be confused as business at all. You go there and lose money as long as you play and hence, it's not business, rather it's a silent black hole without a event horizon Grin
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April 09, 2021, 04:22:30 AM
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i can agree with your b,c,d but for letter a the returns in investment are high because like you said in your letter b , the wait is also long and in gambling the returns arent always high but depending on the gambler if he prefer to play in low odds with more chance of win or he wants high return ( high odds ) but chance to win are harder  .
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April 09, 2021, 06:15:12 AM
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i can agree with your b,c,d but for letter a the returns in investment are high because like you said in your letter b , the wait is also long and in gambling the returns arent always high but depending on the gambler if he prefer to play in low odds with more chance of win or he wants high return ( high odds ) but chance to win are harder  .
The same on me, I don’t really understand why people think of investment as gambling. Like how the hell did that happen? Or should I say, did they really had an investment once in their life to tell? It is very simple. If you make an investment, you will get an asset. Tangible or non-tangible, it’s still an asset you can liquidate just in case something worst happened. You have the security, you have the rights to use your asset and of course, earn at the same time. So associating it with gambling is non-sense, indeed.

Gambling doesn’t give any assurance, you’ll never get assets once you get your cash in. Just tokens or credits you can use to lose, and only exclusive to be liquidated within your casino platform. Risk is not avoidable, it’s a matter of luck, not chance.

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April 09, 2021, 06:32:58 AM
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i can agree with your b,c,d but for letter a the returns in investment are high because like you said in your letter b , the wait is also long and in gambling the returns arent always high but depending on the gambler if he prefer to play in low odds with more chance of win or he wants high return ( high odds ) but chance to win are harder  .
The same on me, I don’t really understand why people think of investment as gambling. Like how the hell did that happen? Or should I say, did they really had an investment once in their life to tell? It is very simple. If you make an investment, you will get an asset. Tangible or non-tangible, it’s still an asset you can liquidate just in case something worst happened. You have the security, you have the rights to use your asset and of course, earn at the same time. So associating it with gambling is non-sense, indeed.

Gambling doesn’t give any assurance, you’ll never get assets once you get your cash in. Just tokens or credits you can use to lose, and only exclusive to be liquidated within your casino platform. Risk is not avoidable, it’s a matter of luck, not chance.
People think of investment like gambling because they believe assets can lose value without recovery. It could actually happen, but it's very rare on long run, although past events can't be considered a guarantee for future events. So yes, there are some risks in investment and depending how you see it, you could tell you are *gambling*.
Anyway, assets investments' risks are much lower compared to gambling, especially on long run. If you choose promising niches and diversify your funds the risks are even lower.

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April 09, 2021, 02:16:42 PM
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For making investment, definitely we expect a good return. Basically investment is like a business. And everyone expects a profit from their business. Sometimes it disappoints us. By the way, gambling gives you instant result. You don't need to wait a lot for your return whether you will win or lose, the result will be given shortly. Gambling can be your life changer. If you play by $1, you may earn 100x or more. Yes, it is possible.

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April 09, 2021, 04:32:08 PM
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From the word, gambling and investment are different. If a person thinks that gambling is considered an investment, then that person is wrong because gambling is an activity that needs to spend money to expect to make money. But in fact, they will lose their money in the short or long term, but they can win on the game, which is only if they have luck. But the investment can give you a good return in the short or long term, so you can expect to make a profit plus your initial money to invest in that program.

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April 09, 2021, 04:57:53 PM
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Whatever it is, they have the same goal to earn profit.
Just like a coin, they had the same risk in the same face but on another side they have different both the same goal, to earn money.
But the good side ion investing is in the long run you will still able to gain profit while gambling there is an expected negative return that will I guess burn out all your money.

That is why we always advise people that should always think to gamble only if they can afford it, not too much pay attention to gambling if you did not have enough time.
Either earning a profit with the use of investment or trying to earn a money with the use of gambling is the same in their motives and that is to get a coin. Both are risky and I guess the level of difficulty of earning a profit or money was also the smae however the two areas only differ I guess in the perception of people. Investment for me is like a gambling whereas you are not also relying on your skills and knowledge but the flavor of luck was also present.
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April 13, 2021, 03:02:17 PM
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Investment has some gambling elements too. Just because you are making an investment, doesn't mean that you'll profit from that investment. You buy the shares of a company but that company very well may go bankrupt and make you lose all the money you invested in that company.

The main difference for me is, when you make an investment the chances of making a profit is a lot higher in the long run. It is the exact opposite with gambling. In the long run it is almost guaranteed that you'll lose.
Which brings us to the main difference between gambling an investing which is risk, in gambling you don't decide how much risk you want to take, the risk is defined by the casino and its fixed, there is for the most part no way to give you some kind of an advantage, the only thing that you decide is how much money you want to gamble, but when it comes to investing you decide how much risk you want to take which means that if you take low risk decisions there is a high chance you will do well in the future.

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April 14, 2021, 09:59:58 PM
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Some games offer 50/50 odds, actually most of them offer such. Investments however, come in all forms of odds of winning and losing. Investing is a process of trial and error, knowing which ones are the best to invest on and the techniques to use is something that you do not learn overnight, whilst of course in gambling, you don't have to learn that much, besides the rules of the game since the view is short term and doesn't apply to multiple scenarios most of the time.
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