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April 27, 2021, 01:48:59 PM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.
Old people may need time to accept new things; this is what exactly happening with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet kind of people; even they are used to technology and investments, when something new for entire mankind and performing well in investment sector as well then they may struggle to understand it. I am very much sure these people one day or other start investing.

Success of bitcoin is time proven. So, I believe Elon musk is right here and probably Bill Gates will start copying him. Even governments might be watching Elon musk along with cryptos and there will be no wonder if they change their mind along with Elon Musk's success in crypto.

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April 27, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
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Everything can be right and everything can be wrong, as we realize that the price of cryptocurrency is never stable so that pessimists and optimists always exist in the cryptocurrency market. So for me, as long as they believe in what they assume it will be good for themselves but not necessarily good for others. It is about freedom from a lot of things and I don't think there is anything right or wrong about this case.

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April 27, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
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Yes none of them are wrong they have explained their own thought. From my side elon musk are more ahead on his thinking on the othe hand Bill gates thinking some practical issue for a while. however i think the crypto always ahead by many of our thought though its behave bubble some moment.
True, there is nothing wrong with both of them because they both provide useful thoughts, but because we are crypto lovers at this time, what Elon Musk has to consider more is what Elon Musk said even though the risks we must bear when experiencing lost.
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April 27, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
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there is nothing wrong with their opinion, all have their own opinions and views, and what I have to pay attention to is that the more people fall,
the price of BTC is increasing and increasing, someone who last year bought at a low price must now enjoy the results,
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April 27, 2021, 02:08:30 PM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.
Old people may need time to accept new things; this is what exactly happening with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet kind of people; even they are used to technology and investments, when something new for entire mankind and performing well in investment sector as well then they may struggle to understand it. I am very much sure these people one day or other start investing.

Success of bitcoin is time proven. So, I believe Elon musk is right here and probably Bill Gates will start copying him. Even governments might be watching Elon musk along with cryptos and there will be no wonder if they change their mind along with Elon Musk's success in crypto.

With Elon Musk presence inside this industry there are more investors who acknowledge him as a
good business person will join inside, flowing money coming from those billionaires who knows that Musk understand the concept.

It's time to move forward and forget those old years when people thinks that this is just  a bubble and incoming time it will just pop out.

You mentioned Gates and Buffet both have other things in mind about  this investment currency, but with how market is moving same with how you
think, they might now investing as well, together with those government who are also learning more about this system.
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April 27, 2021, 02:15:07 PM
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They both are from different fields. We all have a different-different perceptions of different things so we all can not think the same way. For Eg. If I am a good forex trader it does not mean that I will be a good crypto trader by default so likewise Gates and Elon both think of the cryptocurrency in a different-different way. We all know BTC is not a bubble we all are in crypto for a long. I believe Elon is already in good profit from BTC and it does not matter what Gates thinks about cryptos So I would say Elon took the smart decision by investing in BTC.

Absolutely they are different person which is also have different perception. And at the time Bill Gates gave that statement it was way back 2018 where bitcoin was in bear market, maybe he was not yet convinced or didn't figured out yet the worth of bitcoin. There is totally nothing wrong with having different opinions and everyone are entitled on their own opinion, and knowing that they are businessman meaning to say that they are research already about bitcoin in the first place.
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April 27, 2021, 02:44:03 PM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.

Who's right? Let's discuss.

I think it doesn't matter who is right here because we all have different perspectives. If Bill Gates was still pessimistic with regards to crypto then we cannot do something about it because he had his own instinct, perhaps he saw Bitcoin was still not firm enough that is why he calls it a bubble while Elon Musk, on the other hand, saw something an opportunity on it that's why he takes the risk and try to venture in Bitcoin. The thing is we all have our own opinion towards a single matter so we cannot just say they are wrong for what they believe in and you were right, it doesn't work that way, why don't we just respect each other's opinion.
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April 27, 2021, 02:55:43 PM
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I think there are no people here who are right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion about BTC. Some for some reason do not like him and say that he is harmful. I believe that bitcoin is actually digital gold

that's the uniqueness of Bitcoin, everyone has different perceptions. You say digital gold is probably due to the same properties as gold, it can be mined and there is a limited supply. and that's okay. You are right on this point, nothing to lose, because Bitcoin has different sources of reference, depending on how you think of it as what.

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April 27, 2021, 04:52:59 PM
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I think there is nothing right and wrong, everyone has their point of view from a different point of view. Just like an individual's belief in religion, if they are not sure that's fine. This is a natural thing. We don't know behind the uncertainty he has a plan maybe?
Like bad news about crypto in my country, with that they scare off newbies into selling their crypto assets maybe? and buy at  lower price. These are my dirty thoughts.
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April 27, 2021, 05:16:59 PM
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I think that Bill Gates and Elon Musk have different views and they are smart people. so it's hard to guess who is right between them. better focus on what you know about bitcoin and what the future of Bitcoin is. Continue to dig up information so you can get a lot of money on cryptocurrency investing.
It is very easy to see who is right and who is wrong, both of them are smart people but Elon is not afraid to still stir the waters and try to innovate regardless of what people may think of him, Gates on the other hand is now happy with just being part of the current economy system and will do everything he can to protect his position instead of adapting.

Despite their intellects, this difference in their approach is all the difference between them and the reason one is significantly richer and the other is left in ridicule as bitcoin keeps going up.
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April 27, 2021, 07:36:47 PM
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Who's right between Musk and Gates?
For the sake of the market, neither of them are right.
I don't hate these two, but I don't think they have idea how cryptocurrency works at all. It is just media and people making them look like believable or "right".
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April 27, 2021, 08:49:11 PM
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I won't say who is right or wrong, but I couldn't help notice Bill Gates is afraid of bitcoin for some reason. And coincidence or not, exactly on the moment bitcoin was rising exponentially, in other words, in a very optimistic moment for the crypto currency, Gates started badmouthing btc. So I presume he fears bitcoin's sucess and is somehow disturbed by that. That is a predicted behavior from a mainstream giant though.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, while Gates profits from financial slavery.

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April 27, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
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Not my problem, each and everyone has their own views about bitcoin, so both are right to themselves alone, I don't see why I would want to convince someone to see something through  my eyes, so no point discuss about their views about bitcoin, even though I know sometimes their views do affect the market I can still care less about what they think about bitcoin.
For me both have their respective views, it's just a different time if Gates at the end of 2018 and Elon Musk now gives such an opinion. nothing to discuss in my opinion. just follow and be prepared with all the possibilities that will happen.
True, there's really nothing to discuss about their respective views about bitcoin,after all its a decentralized space anyone can say what everywever they like.

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April 28, 2021, 06:24:22 AM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.

Who's right? Let's discuss.

I think Elon was right. In the last few years since bitcoin launch, the price of most top cryptocurrency has increased far from the initial price.
It means cryptocurrency value has increased exponentially indeed. And bitcoin is not a bubble because if it was a bubble, it would already burst and have no value now.

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April 29, 2021, 10:02:24 AM
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Not my problem, each and everyone has their own views about bitcoin, so both are right to themselves alone, I don't see why I would want to convince someone to see something through  my eyes, so no point discuss about their views about bitcoin, even though I know sometimes their views do affect the market I can still care less about what they think about bitcoin.
For me both have their respective views, it's just a different time if Gates at the end of 2018 and Elon Musk now gives such an opinion. nothing to discuss in my opinion. just follow and be prepared with all the possibilities that will happen.
True, there's really nothing to discuss about their respective views about bitcoin,after all its a decentralized space anyone can say what everywever they like.

I can never understand why people get so upset and uptight about differing views. On one hand you have those who spew nonsense every day on Twitter about a different shitcoin every week,,, and probably never even held a real Bitcoin wallet or made a real transaction ever.

On the other you have supposed maximalists who say there is only one way to view BTC.

Both are not wrong, and are not only the truth. Crypto is beautiful for being decentralized,,, truly agree here.

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April 29, 2021, 10:56:19 AM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.

Who's right? Let's discuss.

If we take your question word by word, Gates is wrong. Why? He said he would short BTC if there an easy way to do it. When he said it, there was an easy way to do it but I am pretty damn sure Gates did not shot BTC!  Grin

Since he is a board member of Berkshire Heathaway, it is not that hard to understand why he would change his mind and talky negatively about BTC. Before 2018 he did even talk positively about it. Buffett probably warned him to keep his mouth shut or talk in a bad way about it.

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April 29, 2021, 12:32:12 PM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.

Who's right? Let's discuss.
If me, when someone says bad about bitcoin i will just ignore it. If someone say good about bitcoin i will follow it because it can make good news. If bitcoin down, i will hold it and if bitcoin up, i will really happy about it. There are always positive and negative response about anything so don't really make it hard and just follow which is support us.

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April 29, 2021, 12:42:27 PM
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Since Gates last appreciation regarding crypto back in 2018 when he said that he would short BTC if there was and easy way to do it, Bill Gates recently described Bitcoin as a mania/bubble so he is still pessimistic, while others like Elon Musk have revealed that they believe not only BTC could rise exponentially in value.
It is all about timing and if Bill Gates plans to short Bitcoin during a bull run he will liquidate a huge chunk of his wealth to the market as you need to be a dumb trader to make that kind of decisions and on the other hand if he is expecting a major correction then he can short the coins and earn his profit but the risk factor is really high in the cryptocurrency market as the market can change at any time.
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April 29, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
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It is said that people fear what they can't understand, hate what they can't fight and win.
It clear, am sorry if I use the wrong word but this men who say shit about bitcoin and cryptos in general are smart old fashioned men, I call them smart because they've been on top of their game even though we can't really point to how they got there, but still, the society respects them for the position in the world where wealth is the ruler.
Bitcoin is too complex for them to understand, and they can't rap their head around the fact that they can't point to the person that started this whole journey is crypto currencies, if Satoshi was around, they would have wanted him to show them exactly how bitcoin operates and where it gets its value from before they would invest.
But the long story short is that we don't need this people, bitcoin have been doing very well even before Elon musk came on board, bitcoin will still be doing very well before others come.

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April 29, 2021, 01:01:40 PM
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As we can see now the mass adoption of crypto has occurred, such as the big company Tesla accepting bitcoin as payment, paypal provides features to buy btc directly on their platform and many more from previous years that btc has not been recognized.
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