I want to buy bitcoin, to buy a Trezor model t hardware wallet. Their site only allows credit cards or bitcoin payments, but my bank stopped the payment because they have a policy against anything bitcoin.

I then intend to buy monero with bitcoin on a p2p site like bisq.

I have heard that basically there is no way to know, I know there is always a chance that there is some way, but I am talking realistically speaking, that you bought monero if you do it the right way, by getting your monero not only on a p2p exchange but on an app like bisq.

Is there really any difference in getting total anonymity between p2p on bisq and p2p on a decentralized p2p exchange like localbitcoins.com? Is there a better exchange option for this than localbitcoins, that has p2p and no kyc?

I am in a hurry, and bisq is giving me a fucked up technical problem where in order to do things a pop up window comes up and you have to confirm things, but the fuckin popup window can not be scrolled on to get to the bottom where you confirm things! I even have to wait a day to get an answer in their forum because of some kind of limit to the amount of messages you can post!

So if I only want to use the bitcoin to buy the hardware wallet, and use a p2p decentralized exchange like localbitcoins.com, is this also a safe way to buy bitcoin?

Any future buys of monero would be done on bisq, which supposedly pretty much assures total anonymity as concerns that you bought bitcoin. Of course me even talking like this on the internet is being listened to, but I think they need a legally provable method before they can ask for your monero, and even then you could say your sorry, I lost the passphrase!

Excuse my french, but these are fucked up times when just to use your own money and not the new mark of the beast cryptocurrency that they are going institute around the world, you have to jump through so many hoops.

I will buy monero LATER when I get the hardwallet. Trezor only accepts 2 payments on their website, cc or bitcoin, check for yourself.

I am having a little problem with your english, but are you saying I can buy monero with bitcoin directly when I have the trezor model t hardwallet? Somehow I dont think this is true, I thought the hard wallet was to be used just to make sure your funds are more secure and anonymous.

Are there any any decentralized, p2p, exchanges that don't require kyc. I know there are I just can think of any of the top of my head, remember I am new to this.

The DEX you mentioned is Bisq ^[1], not Bsiq. Please correct your typo. Additionally, when I recommend an exchange, wallet, service, etc. I would like to leave a link. It is a responsibility of readers to do their researches and double-checks, but if I leave all for them as exercises, they might end up with phishing sites from search engines.

Help: A list of LocalBitcoin alternatives (P2P marketplaces). Among them, Hodlhodl.com is another truly DEX (not all P2P marketplaces in that list are truly DEX).

[1] https://bisq.network/

It sounds pretty weird that your bank doesn't let you buying a Trezor wallet. Are you sure about that? You maybe just encountered a transient bug, you should try another time before trying other options it would be less complicated IMO. If you seek anonymity you can also use a classic fiat exchange and then send your bitcoins to a BTC blender. Instead of using a mixer you can also use a second exchange with no KYC and send some altcoins there to buy your BTCs.

That page just says how to reproduce the given issue. It doesn't show any way to fix the problem yet.
I tried installing the app on my laptop and everything seems to be fine. I tried to reproduce the issue but everything was working.
Yes, I agree there were many popups and it were terribly slow. But I was able to scroll.
May be you have a slow internet connection or a low end machine which is taking longer to load the page ?
In every pop-up there was a button to close the popup. Try hitting the "tab" button on your keyboard to see if it takes you to the "Close" button and then hit "enter".

This doesn't prevent your fiat bank from learning about your bitcoin purchases.

A terrible idea, given that most centralized exchanges track deposits and withdrawals and cooperate and share data with blockchain analysis companies.

Did you try Page Down to the arrow keys? Can you Tab through the fields in the form? What is the pop up form anyway? Is it necessary? Can you skip it?

Do you have another device you can try on? Can you boot to a different OS and try that?

No your bank won't know anything about your purchases, your bank will only know you've sent money to an exchange(if the account is already known to belong to an exchange)

Why would an exchange not imposing KYC would collaborate with a blockchain analysis company?
Moreover sending cryptos to an address on an exchange doesn't mean you are the owner of the address.
BTW how do you know that mixers like Chipmixer are not collaborating with any blockchain analysis company?

 

I am thinking of going the paper wallet route. It seems like either if you have a hard wallet or nothing, the only thing that really matters is if you have your passphrase and private key, so it seems to me the hard wallet does not add anything, other than it makes it easier to buy  monero more securely and and anonymously.

Could you let me know some of  the pros and cons of a papper wallet?