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May 21, 2021, 02:15:02 AM
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This is the 3rd or 4th time Bitcoin has Shot up to ATHs nearly vertical and then corrected itself. Should not be surprising to anyone at this point.

I have been saying for months that Bitcoin will most likely drop back down to the 20k range. Just look at the chart from 2018!



What do you people expect from this last bull run?



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May 21, 2021, 03:40:57 AM
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This is the 3rd or 4th time Bitcoin has Shot up to ATHs nearly vertical and then corrected itself. Should not be surprising to anyone at this point.

I have been saying for months that Bitcoin will most likely drop back down to the 20k range. Just look at the chart from 2018!



What do you people expect from this last bull run?

Far, far too bullish. We're most likely going below $10k, and will never make new ATHs again.

Bitcoin Fact: the price of bitcoin will not be greater than $70k for more than 25 consecutive days at any point in the rest of recorded human history.
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May 21, 2021, 03:50:48 AM
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Far, far too bullish. We're most likely going below $10k, and will never make new ATHs again.

Anything is possible, what makes you believe no new ATH though?



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May 21, 2021, 03:53:07 AM
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Far, far too bullish. We're most likely going below $10k, and will never make new ATHs again.

Anything is possible, what makes you believe no new ATH though?

Mathematical and scientific analysis. Also bitcoin is clearly a failed experiment that uses too much energy, just like Elon said. And now everyone knows it and nobody wants it. USD is better and safer.

Bitcoin Fact: the price of bitcoin will not be greater than $70k for more than 25 consecutive days at any point in the rest of recorded human history.
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May 21, 2021, 04:14:59 AM
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Far, far too bullish. We're most likely going below $10k, and will never make new ATHs again.

Anything is possible, what makes you believe no new ATH though?

Mathematical and scientific analysis. Also bitcoin is clearly a failed experiment that uses too much energy, just like Elon said. And now everyone knows it and nobody wants it. USD is better and safer.

Now this is where we disagree. The Price is relative to the Energy Usage among other things. If the energy to cost ration is not profitable then the price will reflect that.

Elon should also know that Gas-powered vehicles burn less fossil fuels than it cost to charge his Teslas. 



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May 21, 2021, 04:16:47 AM
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And if people are so concerned about Energy, they should probably get rid of their 5 TVs, 3 refrigerators, 2 tablets and 12 cellphones. Yet, it's much easier to virtue signal.



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May 21, 2021, 04:23:16 AM
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This is the 3rd or 4th time Bitcoin has Shot up to ATHs nearly vertical and then corrected itself. Should not be surprising to anyone at this point.

I have been saying for months that Bitcoin will most likely drop back down to the 20k range. Just look at the chart from 2018!

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What do you people expect from this last bull run?

I think you are presuming that this cycle will be essentially similar to the past, as is often the case, and it doesn't have to be. People who make forward-looking predictions based on the charts of the past often forget one little thing:

Reality.

The institutional adoption we are having this cycle has never happened before, and I don't think it's going to stop because of Musk or China. The Bitcoin price does not follow a deterministic pattern that we can calculate based on past price performance. It is the events that are happening that drive the price.

Personally I still believe we will pass $100k at the very least.

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May 21, 2021, 05:54:31 AM
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The 2018 drop happened around mid-January so I don't think that it will be the same as back then since we are already pushing to the end of May and we still don't have the really big crash happning which you predicted, the moment that bitcoin surpassed the mid-January crash that happened back in 2018, we were already in the dark at the time.
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May 21, 2021, 11:17:23 AM
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This is the 3rd or 4th time Bitcoin has Shot up to ATHs nearly vertical and then corrected itself. Should not be surprising to anyone at this point.

I have been saying for months that Bitcoin will most likely drop back down to the 20k range. Just look at the chart from 2018!

What do you people expect from this last bull run?

This is not new it's been going on for years, and yet people are always in a panic to sell their coin when there is bad news that caused the market to go down, when investing and making a profit from the bull run expect a drop at the least we expect it to happen.

Bitcoin is doing great we all thought that it's going for another milestone and that is reaching the $60k mark, but unfortunately, we have experienced the opposite, in a highly volatile market expect the unexpected anytime.

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May 21, 2021, 11:30:37 AM
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Far, far too bullish. We're most likely going below $10k, and will never make new ATHs again.

Anything is possible, what makes you believe no new ATH though?

Mathematical and scientific analysis. Also bitcoin is clearly a failed experiment that uses too much energy, just like Elon said. And now everyone knows it and nobody wants it. USD is better and safer.

Now people are so concerned about conserving and waste of energy when you cant even apply it in your own household.
There are a lot more unnecessary use of energy than Bitcoin as a currency use to transact internationally without the need of banks and other payment processors.
I don't know how you define a "failed experiment" when Bitcoin has been existing for more than 11 years now and it's value has been rapidly increasing, more merchants and big companies are accepting Bitcoin for payment, central banks recognizing Bitcoin, and so on..

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May 21, 2021, 11:40:06 AM
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Without a doubt those investors who recently crashed and got burned will be far more cautious and pass on their tales of loss to new investors. (Otherwise they'll be bound to repeat their past mistakes adinfinitum.)

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May 21, 2021, 12:27:24 PM
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... Also bitcoin is clearly a failed experiment that uses too much energy, just like Elon said. And now everyone knows it and nobody wants it. USD is better and safer.

A failed experiment? Let's see:

This is clearly as high as bitcoin will ever get, basically. Maybe just a little bit higher because there are people who haven't realized this is a failed experiment, but that's it. 1 bitcoin will absolutely never be worth $50k. $100k? LOL, no.

Looks like you got that part wrong. I wonder what else you might be wrong about.

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May 21, 2021, 01:53:09 PM
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Without a doubt those investors who recently crashed and got burned will be far more cautious and pass on their tales of loss to new investors. (Otherwise they'll be bound to repeat their past mistakes adinfinitum.)
If they repeat the same mistake then shame on them because they are greedy people who wants to make a lot of money in such a short time in an investment that is volatile. Hopefully, newer investors don't have to suffer the same fate as this old investors. Also, what goes down must come up, this is just a stint in the ever long history of bitcoin.

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May 21, 2021, 02:01:02 PM
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Without a doubt those investors who recently crashed and got burned will be far more cautious and pass on their tales of loss to new investors. (Otherwise they'll be bound to repeat their past mistakes adinfinitum.)

those in the margin trading got burned the most. at 40k its becomes confusing to analyse the trend as to where it will gl from there.

when the price drop from 52k to 30k, jerome powell then announces that cryptocurrency isnt reliable dus to price volatility and then talks about cbdc. this is very timely.









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May 21, 2021, 02:38:33 PM
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Just accept it man, Bitcoin is death. From here we go to single digits. It's over. The tulp mania topped out. Ponzi scheme finally imploded. Sell all before it's too late. İf you would have listened to all the threads back in 2013 and sold everything it would have been the best thing you could do. Just exit this scam and hold things with real value like fiat. Bye.
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May 21, 2021, 02:41:03 PM
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Just accept it man, Bitcoin is death. From here we go to single digits. It's over. The tulp mania topped out. Ponzi scheme finally imploded. Sell all before it's too late. İf you would have listened to all the threads back in 2013 and sold everything it would have been the best thing you could do. Just exit this scam and hold things with real value like fiat. Bye.

A fellow mathematician I see.

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May 21, 2021, 03:08:20 PM
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2018 had a rising dollar after a decline for most of 2017, it reversed the bias where as now I've just seen DXY try and fail to start a recovery in its previous losses.   Its not a great supply we have a massive gap and weakness from monetary expansion, its quite deliberate and Bitcoin is not likely to especially devalue in the face of that.
   Alot of bad news and profit taking, I still count it as quite normal and its also normal that people are impatient and expect an immediate return to the highs which will take time for sure maybe the whole year I dont know.

I'm watching lows here to see if we consolidate or break into a lower range especially.   Below 200 day average could be considered negative easily however the direction of the 200 DMA is rising which gives some clue to future positives and I would not count against that even if near-term is continued speculative profit taking and weakness.

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May 21, 2021, 03:27:07 PM
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I was surprised seeing bitcoin suddenly dump.  After the Elon Musk fud, here comes the China FUD.

This will not stop as people might panic and bring bitcoin to even below $20k.
It's a correction together with FUD, it's a very effective strategy to bring the price down.

Our happy moments are over, we will not see bitcoin reach $100k this year, maybe in the next cycle of bull run

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May 21, 2021, 09:24:40 PM
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What do you people expect from this last bull run?
Well, most of them expected that there is another ATH will come.
However, the correction went on because of negative news coming at the same time. Just imagine, --let us start with Elon Musk’s nonsense tweet. One of the reasons why bitcoin increased is the influence Elon Musk made. Withdrawing is the initial statement that affects the decisions of the investors he convinced to go in. Second is the news about Binance being under investigation by the SEC and Department of Justice. This would affect the price big time. And lastly, China banning financial institutions from offering cryptocurrency services. Well on this time, this is overkill. We should expect the correction and wait until we recover. That is how we will be playing it.









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May 21, 2021, 09:28:43 PM
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It's coming down and that's making every speculation about the bear market likely and in effect. But even if it goes down to $30k or $20k, so let it happen. We're still come far and those who have sold at the top can have their chances now to get it back cheaper.

I was surprised seeing bitcoin suddenly dump.  After the Elon Musk fud, here comes the China FUD.

This will not stop as people might panic and bring bitcoin to even below $20k.
It's a correction together with FUD, it's a very effective strategy to bring the price down.

Our happy moments are over, we will not see bitcoin reach $100k this year, maybe in the next cycle of bull run

BUT STILL, HOLD!
I'll also hold no matter what the FUD will be all over the mainstream media. This is the natural market that we're seeing and good thing that we've come this far and we can have the conclusion that it's just another cycle that's about to happen.

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