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May 29, 2021, 05:12:58 PM
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Yes, singapore is ineed a small country, but the point of this post is about the firearms policy existing in USA.

India is a lot larger than USA, also China is larger than USA, but both of this countries has strict implementation of their firearms policy.

Going back to singapore, because they are small, they have strong firearms policy. TRUE, but if we will see it and make their country larger, they will still have firearms control similar to china or india, but maybe the banning of self defense weapon like pepper spray will be legalized.
Those countries are old fashioned and never wants their people to take control over anything but surely it is possible to buy a pistol or auto guns in the black market for cheaper price and they can even use it too, so all they need is money to get the power.

But the point is, it is "ILLEGAL". Yes you can acquire such weapon but in illegal way. Unlike in the latter where you can even purchase a gun in a supermarket? really though.


You worried about 50 people getting shot?
Try taking the guns and watch 500,000 people get shot..
Is it worth a war to you?


Huh? where's the context behind those 500,000 getting shot if the guns are banned/ or shall we say a better weapon policy is implemented.
Because you are saying something on a baseless conclusion, and countries all over the world have already proven that having a strict weapon policy doesn't lead to such things as "500,000" getting shotted.


Most of us have been shooting guns longer and from a younger age then driving cars..
We teach our kids from a very early age to shoot with BB guns and such, and have them shooting high powered rifles and shotguns when their like 10..


That is the very reason, why people in your country is very comfortable holding and shooting the guns without any kind of fear. That is the very reason why your states has different incidents of mass shootings and such. Because they are too used to guns that it is like a normal thing to fire them anywhere, anytime

Everyone else is just jealous they can’t have guns..
“If I can’t have it, you shouldn’t either”


LoL, who says that people in other countries can't have guns? lmao

We can have guns to use for sports and not for killing innocent lives though

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May 30, 2021, 04:58:51 PM
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Yes, that’s why we are not afraid of guns..

If they didn’t have guns they would probably make more bombs.. Bombs are scarier..

If someone chooses guns to “kill innocent people”, then be glad they chose guns because it could easily be much worse..

They could easily have chosen bombs or poisons/poison gasses that could be far more devastating, and probably cheaper than buying guns anyway..

Oh yes BTW.. It is also legal in the USA to obtain and possess all/any of the required information/instructions on how to make bombs and poison gasses..
1st amendment baby!

It is also completely legal in the USA to make your own guns from scratch and never tell a soul about them.. Completely legal..
It’s also legal to 3D print guns, and legal to have and give/receive 3D printing code of guns.. (1st amendment)

(Not legal to make most bombs/poisons though, but the information to is completely legal as are most of the needed components)


And your worried about guns? LOL no..


Crazy people are going to be crazy..
It’s just lucky that most homicidal crazy people are also not very smart, or their damages would be much worse, and they’d also probably get away with it..

We haven’t seen a decently or orchestrated attack since like 9/11..
Even that Nashville bombing and Boston bombing were.. Not very successful..
The Oakland a city bombing was quite destructive.. The last one I can think of in the USA that was worth worrying about other than 9/11..


A few people get killed here and there in the USA, but look what happens in the Middle East with markets getting blown to smithereens all the time..


Yeah.. The only reason people here would be worried about guns is fear propaganda..

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June 01, 2021, 12:08:25 AM
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The only problem comes about when people don't know how to take their elected officials to court, or at least recall them out of office. With a little legal manipulation, anybody can get this before a jury.

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2. The 1st Amendment allows you to travel with it ^.
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4. The 2nd Amendment allows you to take down Government with guns.


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June 01, 2021, 12:24:15 AM
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While I always noticed that USA has the most loosen restrictions when it comes to owning firearms. I just happened to find out that in singapore, even carrying of pepper spray for self-defense is illegal.

How come that Singapore can ban all these weapons and not be a den of criminals, And USA can't.

Really? That's crazy, how is owning a pepper spray illegal. I can understand that banning firearms is good for the country and will reduce the crime rate. But controlling firearms in a city country like Singapore than a massive country like USA. Even if you would ban guns completely overnight, how could you enforce such a law? There is no way you could go to every person and check their house.

Wasp spray can take down a grown man and if your country has a ban on pepper spray/tasers you can use that for self defense.

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June 01, 2021, 04:50:52 AM
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^^^

Yes, singapore is ineed a small country, but the point of this post is about the firearms policy existing in USA.

India is a lot larger than USA, also China is larger than USA, but both of this countries has strict implementation of their firearms policy.

Going back to singapore, because they are small, they have strong firearms policy. TRUE, but if we will see it and make their country larger, they will still have firearms control similar to china or india, but maybe the banning of self defense weapon like pepper spray will be legalized.
Those countries are old fashioned and never wants their people to take control over anything but surely it is possible to buy a pistol or auto guns in the black market for cheaper price and they can even use it too, so all they need is money to get the power.

But the point is, it is "ILLEGAL". Yes you can acquire such weapon but in illegal way. Unlike in the latter where you can even purchase a gun in a supermarket? really though.
It even more simple, you can simply order the guns in online and it will arrive at your doorstep, no need to visit the shops anymore. Cheesy

But , even if you have a gun in a legal way means you can't simply shoot anyone without valid reasons, its for your self defence but you need to report the usage of bullets in case if you used it or else the license will be cancelled.









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June 01, 2021, 03:10:43 PM
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^^^

Yes, singapore is ineed a small country, but the point of this post is about the firearms policy existing in USA.

India is a lot larger than USA, also China is larger than USA, but both of this countries has strict implementation of their firearms policy.

Going back to singapore, because they are small, they have strong firearms policy. TRUE, but if we will see it and make their country larger, they will still have firearms control similar to china or india, but maybe the banning of self defense weapon like pepper spray will be legalized.
Those countries are old fashioned and never wants their people to take control over anything but surely it is possible to buy a pistol or auto guns in the black market for cheaper price and they can even use it too, so all they need is money to get the power.

But the point is, it is "ILLEGAL". Yes you can acquire such weapon but in illegal way. Unlike in the latter where you can even purchase a gun in a supermarket? really though.
It even more simple, you can simply order the guns in online and it will arrive at your doorstep, no need to visit the shops anymore. Cheesy

But , even if you have a gun in a legal way means you can't simply shoot anyone without valid reasons, its for your self defence but you need to report the usage of bullets in case if you used it or else the license will be cancelled.

It’s not so simple as just ordering them online in the US..

We use all the bullets/ammo we want and don’t report buying them or using them in any manner..

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June 01, 2021, 04:35:22 PM
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Wasp spray can take down a grown man and if your country has a ban on pepper spray/tasers you can use that for self defense.

"I'm not carrtying this wasp spray for self-defense, officer. I'm just really concerned. Concerned about wasps!

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June 02, 2021, 06:52:24 PM
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Wasp spray can take down a grown man and if your country has a ban on pepper spray/tasers you can use that for self defense.

"I'm not carrtying this wasp spray for self-defense, officer. I'm just really concerned. Concerned about wasps!

Don't get so patriotic that you stop officers on the street just to tell them that. Huh

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June 03, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
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It’s not so simple as just ordering them online in the US..

We use all the bullets/ammo we want and don’t report buying them or using them in any manner..
Buying a gun is easy though either in a legal or illegal way as long as you have money. And in US you will be denied for FFL if you misconduct gun and use it for unnecessary purposes, or atleast as per the laws.









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June 03, 2021, 05:41:59 PM
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It all comes down to culture obviously. Because culture is what drives the mindset of people in a specific community or country along with long time existing traditions. These two are the main things that shape the children along with the environment that influences the children. But even so, good or bad governance made possible by great or awful leaders are also vital ingredients to what a country currently is and how people in a specific country acts towards laws, families, fellow countrymen and foreigners.
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It all comes down to culture obviously. Because culture is what drives the mindset of people in a specific community or country along with long time existing traditions. These two are the main things that shape the children along with the environment that influences the children. But even so, good or bad governance made possible by great or awful leaders are also vital ingredients to what a country currently is and how people in a specific country acts towards laws, families, fellow countrymen and foreigners.

I agree with you the gun laws depend on a culture. If a culture came from a long line of hunters or soldiers, then guns are very important for the people of that country.  It would be hard to imagine taking the guns of the people away if they fought for their privilege to own them in the first place. I think that it is possible to limit the sell of guns for the future, but taking away guns (some of which might be antiques with a lot of value) seems nearly impossible in todays world. The only way would be for the government to pay a big premium for every gun taking away.
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June 06, 2021, 09:03:31 AM
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It all comes down to culture obviously. Because culture is what drives the mindset of people in a specific community or country along with long time existing traditions. These two are the main things that shape the children along with the environment that influences the children. But even so, good or bad governance made possible by great or awful leaders are also vital ingredients to what a country currently is and how people in a specific country acts towards laws, families, fellow countrymen and foreigners.

I agree with you the gun laws depend on a culture. If a culture came from a long line of hunters or soldiers, then guns are very important for the people of that country.  It would be hard to imagine taking the guns of the people away if they fought for their privilege to own them in the first place. I think that it is possible to limit the sell of guns for the future, but taking away guns (some of which might be antiques with a lot of value) seems nearly impossible in todays world. The only way would be for the government to pay a big premium for every gun taking away.

Owning a gun is not the real problem in the post, owning is also possible in whole lot of countries in the world. It is the policies that binds it. Access to firearms in the US is so much easier than the rest of the world, that even a young teens can own one. Maybe culture is a factor for the difference in the law, but it is not an excuse to make guns available in freaking supermarkets.

Also, it is not about taking away the "GUNS" literally, it is about the restrictions and rules regarding owning a gun specifically

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^^^ No restrictions on private property, except if they are a direct threat, or if they are used to harm a man/woman or their property... 4th and 9th Amendments. And no restrictions on traveling with your private property... 1st Amendment.


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What I think some of you Dems, Libs dont understand, is that even if firearms were banned, if someone wants something bad enough, they will get it, lets take mexico for an example just like someone else said in this thread. Mexico has strict gun laws, but has more firearm related violence than the US. For you to take away guns, would be to take away a given right. And as I said in another thread. You dems and libs dont understand that if the government falls, you will perish, all of your life you have been relying on the government to keep you safe and don't know how to do it yourself. Even if the government still stands, if someone breaks into your house and is seconds away from getting to where you are and possibly harming you, do you think the police will get to your house within 3 seconds of you calling 911? Its not just about home invasions and government crumbling either, in the event of ANY dangerous situation where you have a high chance of being injured or killed by another person/persons, what are you gonna do? call the police and wait for them to save you? I dont think you understand that if you rely on others to save you, sooner or later you will be let down if you dont protect yourself in that situation.

But home invasions are illegal.. The government already stopped them..

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