Cryptos scam, unpaid - protection for hunters.

[rodskee]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

One question , Why not post on your main account? the way you make this post it is an obvious that you are an alt account and afraid of being attacked or punished by the managers who did not pay you?

sorry for this but that's the way i see things here.



you clearly said that joining Bounty in crypto means risking your own so that only means one thing also , that what your sentiment here does not reflect the reality because it is obvious that you don't know what you are saying.

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[Chato1977]

Lets accept the reality that this is our fate being a Hunter, What we only need is to at least learn from time to time and not let being a victim forever.

There are some good projects happen in the past and until now there is some but we can count in hand so be careful.

[TopTort777]

That is why people who participate in bounties are bounty hunters. Not always a hunters returns with a prey. If someone ever been hunting, he knows that in most cases you did not get anything and return home with empty hands. Or you go with a team of hunters and shot something, but only one returns home with prey. Fishing - same situation. You can spend hours fishing and catch nothing. Silent hunting (mushroom, berry gathering) - you might get just a little reward. Nothing can protect hunters from being scammed. Escrow wont help either. What is the point of a 100% chance of receiving tokens or coins, that cost 0?

[irsykes]

Almost all people have same answer, about not get paid or paid less than what is promised, escrow is the key. About bounty managers, we know they wouldn't give their reputation on risk only for picking any project without filtering it. I think bounty managers already did their best too but sometimes it developer's team who really change what already they said in bounty thread.

looks like bounty hunter still didnt care about escrow, they prefer working and speculate about payment if campaign finished. obligation of using escrow still debateable now and developers team still careless about their reputation , meanwhile bounty manager that will be the one who blammed by many people.

Honestly, me is one of it. I usually joined bounty campaign depends on bounty managers and total amount of rewards of the bounty itself. But see a project which suddenly change their reward pool without any announcement, i will think about project with escrow. But maybe bounty manager who get that bad experience will be more strict to pick bounty project that he will handle.

[bitterguy28]

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

How can you anticipate that matter? then don'tJoin Bounty at all for sure you will never experience such cases.

because the more you participate is the more you giving consent those scammers to victimized you.

[pinoycash]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

Join a campaign that paid with tradable token, That is the only way to avoid getting scam with fake bounty offers. With increasing fee in ETH sending bounty rewards to bounty hunters is not cheap, so most of the time bounty hunters are left without getting paid. Even with BSC, sending token to thousands of participants will cost alot, specially if the project failed to raised money from their fund raising.

[Hamphser]

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

How can you anticipate that matter? then don'tJoin Bounty at all for sure you will never experience such cases.

because the more you participate is the more you giving consent those scammers to victimized you.

Bounty campaign would continue to exist because ICO projects are still continuing to exist which means marketing would be next in line.

Scam bounties and managers cant really be known because usually these shits would be looking legit and active while the project is on accumulation or fund raise but when everything is over then this is where true color pops out.

If hunters do continue to advertise these scams then it would continue to exist and this is why we should be careful on dealing on things.                                                                                                             =

[blackened515]

The purpose of every bounty promotion is payment for a certain tasks been done after a certain period of time, the only way to stay out of this anxiety is participating in bounty manged by highly reputable managers on the forum, if the campaign is not run by renounced managers, ask the team for an escrow and be sure you will be paid after the campaign come to an end.
If at all the project turns out to be scam and not listed on any exchange and the bounty reward was distributed to your wallet, you have no one to blamed not even the manager but yourself that failed to do a research about the project you were promoting, have this in mind, participating in few bounties out of hundreds is the best thing to do as a bounty hunter.

[Erdogan]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

Managers can do nothing. If the project turns out to be a scam or fails, it is simply the risk that comes with bounty campaigns. The only thing that can reduce the risk is the manager's experience and his project research skills. If he can check the project and say that it credible, that's quite a lot. However, it's always best to research the project yourself.

[inanilujimi]

1. Escrow the bounty funds and make sure it's managed by trusted managers.
2. Never join any non-escrowed bounties if you fear the bounty won't paid you in the future.

Those 2 suggestions I provide above 100% will prevent from bounty scam and make bounty scam will go away since no one is interested.

If from the start the project really wanted to scam, the escrow entrusted to the bounty manager does not really guarantee that the token will be used for the project they are running, for example they provide a token that is different from the smart contract of the project they are running.
the point is we have to really pay attention to the bounties we are working on if something looks weird ask the team, if they don't satisfy you, leave immediately before the work feels useless.

[bakasabo]

I agree with the escrow.

Escrow is not the solution.

Recently I was participating in bounty with escrow. The project looked strong and I thought there is going to be no problem with it, specially when it managed by reputed managed and there were escrow. After two weeks issues started to appear. In the end, managed first put this campaign on pause, then decided to end it and distribute rewards. And guess what - he could not do it, because tokens were locked. Escrow did not help at all.
Another example are Bounty Detectives. Often they escrow rewards. But did not distribute them because 1) they havent received funding for transactions 2) the team did not allow them to start distribution. Escrow did not help here either.

[Rabi3]

Lets accept the reality that this is our fate being a Hunter, What we only need is to at least learn from time to time and not let being a victim forever.

There are some good projects happen in the past and until now there is some but we can count in hand so be careful.

true, we have to learn from our mistakes, to avoid more scams but that won't be enough, even some big projects who had big support from investors didn't pay bounty hunters, so i think not getting paid is something a bounty hunter can't avoid, that's why we see some people joining all twitter campaigns even if they look suspicious, they try everything, which is not a good thing because they're helping them grow and find it really easy to promote their projects here.

[kram31]

Without escrows in every bounty campaign the level of risk for sure is too high, were the chances average of distribution only
20% even the Bounty Manager has a good reputation here in the forum, based on my analysis and observation. I know a lot of the old members
here knows this statement that I am talking about.

[bitbollo]

there are severals way bounty hunters get scammed. You can also escrow funds but if you will receive a new token (and not bitcoin/eth or any top crypto ) price could be heavily dumped and you receive a token that worth nothing. Or maybe there is "a value" but it's something listed in a shadow exchange with unclear KYC rules, fake trades etc etc. Just few projects deserve interest, nowadays most of others are just a waste of time

[ultrloa]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

Most of the bounties now here in the forum are non-escrows actually, where the risk is too high and the chances of rewards is very minimal.
Only few of them are trusted and this trusted people or BM are surely will send your rewards. Because, if ever the BM is don't have a higher rank here and they managed campaign they will give the rewards but mostly is differ from the allocation during the time when they are starting.

That's why its been encourage to join on reputable campaign managers since mostly they already escrowed the amouny intended for bounty so its gives us little security while doing effort on the camp but don't expect that you be paid on your efforts since sometimes even if the camp pays still there are times that their distributed tokens doesn't get any value. Thats why don't put all your hopes that you will paid but instead treat this as hobby and lucky if will be paid.

[cabron]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

Most of the bounties now here in the forum are non-escrows actually, where the risk is too high and the chances of rewards is very minimal.
Only few of them are trusted and this trusted people or BM are surely will send your rewards. Because, if ever the BM is don't have a higher rank here and they managed campaign they will give the rewards but mostly is differ from the allocation during the time when they are starting.

That's why its been encourage to join on reputable campaign managers since mostly they already escrowed the amouny intended for bounty so its gives us little security while doing effort on the camp but don't expect that you be paid on your efforts since sometimes even if the camp pays still there are times that their distributed tokens doesn't get any value. Thats why don't put all your hopes that you will paid but instead treat this as hobby and lucky if will be paid.

Even the reputable manager had been scammed as well and if the team won't send yet the bounties, all efforts are gone worthless. It's a scheme they do already when they promise to pay the bounty hunters after 3 months and then comes the time, they once again will promise after 3 months. They can't do anything about it.

Can't remember the project but I've also read it here in the forum, I'm sure any bounty hunter that's part of it will remember it if they read this comment.

[TheUltraElite]

That's why its been encourage to join on reputable campaign managers since mostly they already escrowed the amouny intended for bounty so its gives us little security while doing effort on the camp but don't expect that you be paid on your efforts since sometimes even if the camp pays still there are times that their distributed tokens doesn't get any value.

Out of the thousands of bounties that get posted here, very few end up as escrowed and when one does, there is a huge flock hunters jumping into it. Reputable bounty manager does not equal to an escrowed  bounty tokens but of course most managers usually declare that before posting it.

Thats why don't put all your hopes that you will paid but instead treat this as hobby and lucky if will be paid.

True that, most bounty hunters think of this as a job when it is defenitely not so. It is a hit and run/gamble as to which new altcoin will become big. Now bounty hunters cant complain of the same since nobody forced them to join and there was no clause to protect them on non-payment. Thats why I suggest every newbie to get to know this forum and how it works first and then gradually rank up to join a bitcoin payment campaign.

[rat03gopoh]

Basically there is no guarantee even though the funds will be escrowed by reputable BM though. The team can lock the token at the desired address with a smart contract. It is very necessary to consider managers who not only understand good management and marketing, but also understand technical things that the team may be prone to cover up.

But still prioritizing quality, a reputable manager will really fight for the hunters, and will even anticipate things that are detrimental to the hunters.

[Dump3er]

That's why its been encourage to join on reputable campaign managers since mostly they already escrowed the amouny intended for bounty so its gives us little security while doing effort on the camp but don't expect that you be paid on your efforts since sometimes even if the camp pays still there are times that their distributed tokens doesn't get any value.

Out of the thousands of bounties that get posted here, very few end up as escrowed and when one does, there is a huge flock hunters jumping into it. Reputable bounty manager does not equal to an escrowed  bounty tokens but of course most managers usually declare that before posting it.

Thats why don't put all your hopes that you will paid but instead treat this as hobby and lucky if will be paid.

True that, most bounty hunters think of this as a job when it is defenitely not so. It is a hit and run/gamble as to which new altcoin will become big. Now bounty hunters cant complain of the same since nobody forced them to join and there was no clause to protect them on non-payment. Thats why I suggest every newbie to get to know this forum and how it works first and then gradually rank up to join a bitcoin payment campaign.

One of the biggest problems is that many teams claim they would have legitimate reasons to stay anonymous. Since that might even be true in some cases, usually it is not but just for the sake of scamming people. It is just hard to differentiate one group from the other. Hence it is a gamble, but sticking with reputable bounty managers helps a bit because you know that they do a good bit of due diligence on their own because they don't want to put their reputation on the line for a blatantly obvious scam.

[stomachgrowls]

We all know we are in crypto. We join for our own risk. We search and try to find out the best and most potential project promoted by trusted managers. However some project turned into scam and some may not pay the participants due to underestimating the hunters promotion with low traffic.

From the past and recent issues with regards to scam projects and unpaid balance for hunters.

How we can anticipate this matter? How the hunters be protected by the managers or they are just a toy to promote the project and yet the team doesn't want to pay as they are already in success?

Yes, it sounds impossible but let us just try to discuss this matter.

Common thing that is happening on bounty hunting which majority of those projects are scams or those project who dont tend to pay out users despite of success.

Managers are just workers and shouldnt really took the blame unless if the manager is part of the team then thats the time they should really be sued on about the pay. As bounty hunter then you should really know on how

to do your assignment. Seek out the best possible legit project even though it cant really be determined on early phase but choosing the potential ones is still possible.

Stick with good bounty known managers of this forum and not just some newbie who are handling out the community members.I cant really just trust up those guys.