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May 27, 2021, 08:32:33 PM
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Probably most people don't know a championship where players team up wearing medieval armors and wielding real weapons like swords, axes and halberds to fight against another teams exist nowadays, but it does. The event exists since 2013 and already counts with the participation of 26 nations which send a team of your own to the competition. Each year the championship is executed in a different country and there is already an International Federation responsible for it (International Medieval Combat Federation)

There are different categories of fights: 1 vs 1, 5 vs 5, 21 vs 21 and I saw there is even 150 vs 150, which rely in different attributes like resistance, strength, strategy, leadership and so on.
The rules are simple: if the player goes down he is out of the game. The team which manages to knock down the whole opponent team is the winner.

Like in any sports it's possible to see some nations are superior to anothers, what would give the chance to the sport's fans to earn some money by predicting the correct results. Would you have interest in betting in a sport like this and promoting it, so it could become more popular until being included in gambling's platforms?

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May 27, 2021, 08:44:23 PM
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This is the first time I saw a betting like that or I must say this is the first time I heard about a competition like that.

And from the images above, looks like it involves lots of players per round/match so I think not possible for now because of the pandemic.

I head into the site and the tournament will be held in 2022 so maybe I will now disregard the pandemic thing here. Now to answer the thread title, maybe yes if some crypto sportsbook will promote it or maybe no because of my lack of knowledge about the whole context of that sports.

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May 27, 2021, 09:48:40 PM
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The game seems to be so chaotic that an umpire or a referee facilitating the bouts will prove insufficient in controlling these adrenaline-fueled knights once they have already unsheathed their longswords and raised their shields. Hopefully this grows to be a much more organized tournament of sorts and if it does then count me in as one of the people who will bet on this fun-to-watch competition.
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May 27, 2021, 10:00:34 PM
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I think they would need to restructure the format to make it more attractive to gamblers.

Teams are too large. Its hard to track the play by play. A team size on the field closer to NBA/NFL/MLB/soccer would be a step in the right direction imo. There could also be more of a strategic element with the introduction of types of player formations and lineups which might be commonly utilized to generate a type of consistency.

There have been many different announcements and proposals revolving around the sport of melee armed combat over the years. Years back there was a guy claiming he invented a type of melee combat armor that was studded with sensors to measure and record blunt force trauma. That would be utilized as a foundation to create an entirely new combat sport. There are always many good proposals and ideas on how to take melee combat sports mainstream in a way which grants it mass following similar to MMA/UFC. But so far it would seem, no one has implemented it in a way which has been deemed attractive to the general public. It remains very much a fringe area for fans of renaissance fairs and the like.

Personally, I would not be interested in gambling on it as it is. There are too many variables. The player action isn't as well defined as I would like. Training and physical conditioning aspects are in their infancy. Conditions for victory and defeat are also not well defined. It lacks the old world typical combat aspects one might expect like shield walls, phalanxes and the like. On some level participants are probably going easy on each other to avoid injuries. Its not an all out sport where they can commit to win at all costs.
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May 27, 2021, 10:12:45 PM
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I guess I'd bet on that 1v1 match but for 21v21 and even at 150v150 that was huge one and can't comprehend that much on some extent. This is the first time I heard such kind of sports betting. I think it was more exciting to watch the "Jousting" play rather than this, it was a game I see on Heath Ledger's one of epic movies "A Knight's Tale", it was fun to watch but I don't know if such game still existing.

Well, I just stumble upon this tournament that may happen sooner: https://www.blenheimpalace.com/whats-on/events/jousting.html
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May 27, 2021, 10:20:54 PM
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Wow, looks both dangerous and exciting! I didn't know such a competition existed. I knew there are certain people, e.g. Tolkien fans that participate in Medieval-like fights, but that's just for fun, maybe small groups even make bets, but you can bet on anything when it comes to a close circle of people.
Now, this is a whole new level, and it must be entertaining to watch. However, I'm not sure how to place bets in such competitions, especially when there's 150 vs 150, it's too difficult to evaluate the strength, the chances of winning, as this is not a common sport.
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May 27, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
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This is the first time too in my Dictionary.

But how's the betting would be? There are lots of gladiators inside the stadium and betting for it will be so hard.

Just imagine the difficulty of betting in a horse racing or F1 where the gambler's source was only based on performance history or just simply a random pick based on odds so what's more to on a Medieval MMA match.

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May 27, 2021, 10:35:33 PM
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This game is developed from the ancient days of gaming/gambling. In movies where it describes about ancient living style show such games. Everything happens on a cyclic pattern, maybe these games will be played much in the future. Right now gambling platforms never show big interest, because they won't be able to set perfect odds for the game and are conducted seasonal.

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May 27, 2021, 10:51:45 PM
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I agree with Hydrogen. teams are too large, it's too chaotic and the game needs more polishing to make it easier to follow the game or the objectives especially with huge members per team. the game has a lot of potentials in the strategic aspect. but I don't think it will be attractive enough for me to place a bet on a game but I would enjoy watching a match.

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May 27, 2021, 11:20:51 PM
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It's my first time to see this type of fight since it only exist in ancient times though this one is different it might be bloody if worst to happen since they hold real weapons. I don't know if there's worse that happen already to the participants but it was kind of unorganized especially the large number of participants fighting each other though what they need is to just knock down their opponent. It's still too large to see who's trying to cheat so the referee will be having a hard time to look at them one by one.

I don't think this will be included in gambling since there's a huge possiblity that this would be rigged because you don't know who will be the best fighter since all they need is to knock down their opponent. Plus the lack of perspective to each one of them this is more like a racing competition rather than a fight due to the high number of participants.

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May 28, 2021, 12:06:05 AM
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Never read or seen like this, but looks interesting but with the pandemic, I don't think it's recommended to do this now, if there is already an existing federation for this and it involves over 26 nations, then it's possible that it will become a sporting event duly recognized, and there's a possibility that it will have a place in the sports betting, let's see in the future if they can get in, it's a contact sports that takes us back to the medieval times.

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May 28, 2021, 12:07:51 AM
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I knew that there are many recreations of battles and a fan of this type of combat. In fact, the armor industry, from what I've heard, is quite large. The equipment can be worth a few hundred euros. Now, I thought that this was only for mediaeval shows, fairs and festivals. I had no idea that there was evidence, let alone betting.

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May 28, 2021, 02:33:56 AM
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This is interesting, and this is my first time to hear about this Medieval MMA fights and I'm shock to see that 25 countries are a member of Medieval combat. It looks like this fight has been here for years now, I got so curious about how this thing works and looking for a site to place a bet if ever. So many questions to be asked, will go directly to their site instead, thanks for sharing this one OP.

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May 28, 2021, 04:26:59 AM
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This is interesting, and this is my first time to hear about this Medieval MMA fights and I'm shock to see that 25 countries are a member of Medieval combat. -snip-
A friend of mine is part of such a group, so I have some insight into what goes on. They train at least 3 times a week, there are also professional teams that are invited to fights by the organizers and earn money. The fights themselves are highly professional and run very coordinated, comparable to 5 on 5 fights in CS.

What you see on the screenshots above are mass battles that are purely for the entertainment of the audience. The "real" fights take place in very small teams (3 vs. 3, 5 vs. 5), where it is also quite easy to keep track.

So it is definitely a very interesting sport that offers a lot of potential for exciting bets. Here you can see a 1 vs 1 with axes, it's really getting down to business:

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May 28, 2021, 05:24:25 AM
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Oho this looks interesting. I've always been a fan of how medieval novels and their strategems on the way of war and the like, so this is definitely the cup of my tea. It is still questionable though whether stuff like strategies that are used in the past such as formations and the like are taken into account though. Not to mention that at times, the result is pretty much just left to the build of the members of the fight. Looks like most of the weapons are just blunt weapons, which makes weight a key factor imo.

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May 28, 2021, 05:57:00 AM
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not the type of game that a sports bettor would really delve into unless they like the medieval costumes and sort of a gladiator game. i think this will just fall to the preference of someone. some of us like fencing sports. i personally like paintball gun battle but i'm not open to bet on a team for it because there is just no way i could find out which of them is good. you have to be a fan and keep track of the news as we do in boxing sports.

there must be people following the sport because they do have the Medieval Combat Federation. 









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May 28, 2021, 06:38:12 AM
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I would bet a very small amount of money because it is very difficult to predict.This brought to my mind though if this can make something like the Royal Rumble in Wwe where the last man standing wins.It would be very interesting to see a stadium full of gladiators fighting who stand last.Of course betting on such event is pure luck and extremely hard to predict.

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It's not real, thus wouldn't be appealing to the masses. Moreover, team sports means the event would be less frequent than the 1 v 1 sports, since gathering participants isn't a simple job. I personally won't bet for something that doesn't push the players to the max, or not competitive in nature.

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May 28, 2021, 07:11:40 AM
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Never heard about Medieval MMA. Whenever I see a picture like that, I always thought it is just a staging a historical event.
Doubt that this is like a real sport or a medieval fight imitation. Those who have more stamina to stand and hold all these heavy things wins. No strategy involved. The rules are also quite funny. Knock out your opponent and win. Their armor is so heavy so I think it is enough to push someone on the ground and he simply wont have enough strength to stand up without help.

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May 28, 2021, 07:12:12 AM
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It's hard to manage events like this it's almost free for all and if it's a free for all, participants are going to hurt each other imagine 40 people will battle with each other, how many referee and officials the organizers are going to need just to officiate the battle, this is something new it's fun to watch but it's hard to manage and who knows maybe it will become viral and one sporting events site will include it.

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