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~ Woodly isn't a pushover even though he's been out of the UFC for a while and I still think this isn't going to be an easy fight for Paul. Woodly is certainly no Ben Askren and has knocked people out with punches. Personally if I was going to be my money would probably be on Woodly, or maybe it goes this distance. Tyron Woodley is not a pushover but he is on a loosing streak in the UFC and there is no doubt that Tyron Woodley is the most difficult opponent Jake Paul is facing in his high profile money making career and i am also expecting a good fight and the fight will take place at 190 pounds which i think is fair for Tyron Woodley. The only problem is Tyron Woodley was explosive but for the past few fights we have not seen that explosiveness and he lost those fights and if he could regain that explosiveness he used to have then he could win against Jake Paul by knockout. Yeah, but that's in the UFC and two of them were only losses on points. Boxing is a different matter. McGregor is also on a losing streak but I'd expect him to smoke Jake Paul. According to Khabib's manager McGregor will have to resort to fighting him eventually ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . https://www.givemesport.com/1711131-conor-mcgregor-is-finished-needs-jake-paul-fight-says-khabib-nurmagomedovs-managerTo be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing. Conor has one more fight in the UFC that fans will like to watch if he loses vs. Dustin Poirier, this is a trilogy battle against Nate Diaz. If he wins this, I predict he will celebrate and announce his retirement. However, if he loses this, he will retire quietly. A good way to celebrate retirement when you win the last fight and start with Jake Paul after it. He is still a money grabber, he can fill a dome of 20K people just to show an exhibition fight. Paul may not be a very easy fight for him but I think Connor has blood boxing skills, is very much accurate in the cage. With just a little training in footwork, he could stay well in the exhibition industry.
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I've become less, and less interested in boxing the more that I've gotten into UFC over the years. But, I am interested in hearing what seasoned, die hard boxing fans actually think of these cross over events that have happened over the last few years. Conor, Logan Paul, and Jake Paul. Obviously, there has always been white collar boxing events, and cross overs from different sports, but it seems its becoming more frequent recently, with some MMA fighters showing a desire to get involved with Boxing simply because you earn more money. To be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing.
You could probably argue that Conor is bigger than the UFC. Even when he loses, his stock still manages to be about the same, due to his exploits earlier in his career. I'm not sure I like Conor's personality, and out of the octagon persona, but I can't help but watch his fights, and actually root for him to win. The guy is one of the most skilled, and aesthetically pleasing fighters there is. Probably one of the best strikers to ever walk into the cage, and because of these reasons he knows that money will follow him regardless of the results. Which is actually what I think has caused him to not have that same passion he had several years ago, since he was chasing money back then. Now money practically chases him.
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June 24, 2021, 12:20:19 PM |
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I've become less, and less interested in boxing the more that I've gotten into UFC over the years. But, I am interested in hearing what seasoned, die hard boxing fans actually think of these cross over events that have happened over the last few years. Conor, Logan Paul, and Jake Paul. Obviously, there has always been white collar boxing events, and cross overs from different sports, but it seems its becoming more frequent recently, with some MMA fighters showing a desire to get involved with Boxing simply because you earn more money.
I grew up watching boxing matches due to the influence of my father as he is a die-hard boxing fan. Every fight, the family would gather and treat it as an occasion where our relatives would visit our houses and eat/drink while watching these matches. To see that most boxing fights nowadays are between crossover fights from UFC fighters kinda hurts my soul. The spirit of competitiveness is just not there. The hunger of dominating your opponent and watching them fight to death (with actual tactics and techniques) are becoming obsolete due to the fact that most boxers tend to focus more on the cash prize than the actual title.
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June 24, 2021, 07:48:22 PM |
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I grew up watching boxing matches due to the influence of my father as he is a die-hard boxing fan. Every fight, the family would gather and treat it as an occasion where our relatives would visit our houses and eat/drink while watching these matches.
To see that most boxing fights nowadays are between crossover fights from UFC fighters kinda hurts my soul. The spirit of competitiveness is just not there. The hunger of dominating your opponent and watching them fight to death (with actual tactics and techniques) are becoming obsolete due to the fact that most boxers tend to focus more on the cash prize than the actual title.
You can always ignore this kind of stuff if you really don't like their certain goals in making this event no one is forcing you to watch it and no one is forcing you to not watch it either, but again the Jake Paul VS Floyd Mayweather is come to fast maybe this will be a different kind of thing if you can give it a chance, we can never know if this could be a good kind of fight, or a very interesting one, even though your interest in boxing is not in this kind of exhibition match there are still boxing matches you can surely love to watch and this kind of event is on a different level you can always treat it to non-existing.
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June 24, 2021, 08:45:58 PM |
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I grew up watching boxing matches due to the influence of my father as he is a die-hard boxing fan. Every fight, the family would gather and treat it as an occasion where our relatives would visit our houses and eat/drink while watching these matches.
To see that most boxing fights nowadays are between crossover fights from UFC fighters kinda hurts my soul. The spirit of competitiveness is just not there. The hunger of dominating your opponent and watching them fight to death (with actual tactics and techniques) are becoming obsolete due to the fact that most boxers tend to focus more on the cash prize than the actual title.
You can always ignore this kind of stuff if you really don't like their certain goals in making this event no one is forcing you to watch it and no one is forcing you to not watch it either, but again the Jake Paul VS Floyd Mayweather is come to fast maybe this will be a different kind of thing if you can give it a chance, we can never know if this could be a good kind of fight, or a very interesting one, even though your interest in boxing is not in this kind of exhibition match there are still boxing matches you can surely love to watch and this kind of event is on a different level you can always treat it to non-existing. This matches can't affect the boxing industry and they still have my respect, it is true that we always have a choice to watch, to bet or not at all since not all boxing activities we are interested to, most of the time we are just watching the main event since there's a money there. This kind of exhibition match are kinda trend right now, we might see more in the coming years. It's been the trend because of the Paul brothers, but thank God we will be seeing some great fights in the coming months and I believe the trend will lose its popularity in the long run if they continue to bring boring fights. This will be an easy match for Jake Paul, no doubt. Could be, but that makes it boring because the fight is not competitive as most people are expecting to see.
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June 24, 2021, 09:15:56 PM |
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This will be an easy match for Jake Paul, no doubt. Could be, but that makes it boring because the fight is not competitive as most people are expecting to see. I doubt that most people are expecting something explosiveness in that fight. They aren't expecting that fight to be turned out as how the usual professional fight should be. What actually these people care about are their respective gambling bets. Exhibition or professional matches, as long as there is an opportunity to gamble, they will put up some bets on it.
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June 24, 2021, 09:47:01 PM |
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This will be an easy match for Jake Paul, no doubt. Could be, but that makes it boring because the fight is not competitive as most people are expecting to see. I doubt that most people are expecting something explosiveness in that fight. They aren't expecting that fight to be turned out as how the usual professional fight should be. What actually these people care about are their respective gambling bets. Exhibition or professional matches, as long as there is an opportunity to gamble, they will put up some bets on it. We can't expect a good fight here because they are just fighting for the money and of course this is well organized and the winners has been decided already by the contracts. Bettors will always put their money on risk, on this exhibition match Jake might be on a good side but we still don't know, Woodley might be the one who will win based on the contract, we'll see.
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June 24, 2021, 10:28:24 PM |
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We can't expect a good fight here because they are just fighting for the money and of course this is well organized and the winners has been decided already by the contracts. Bettors will always put their money on risk, on this exhibition match Jake might be on a good side but we still don't know, Woodley might be the one who will win based on the contract, we'll see. Everyone who fights at any level be it in the street, club or any form is done to make money and do you make the same claim against the rest of the fighters and promoters, yes it looks like a freak show but that does not mean that they are playing around and the fights are fixed, if they are not well prepared they will get injured seriously and all we see is the fight for a few minutes on the fight day but the preparation will take months and if you are watching those tapes you will understand that they are not playing around.
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June 25, 2021, 07:12:35 AM |
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~ Woodly isn't a pushover even though he's been out of the UFC for a while and I still think this isn't going to be an easy fight for Paul. Woodly is certainly no Ben Askren and has knocked people out with punches. Personally if I was going to be my money would probably be on Woodly, or maybe it goes this distance. Tyron Woodley is not a pushover but he is on a loosing streak in the UFC and there is no doubt that Tyron Woodley is the most difficult opponent Jake Paul is facing in his high profile money making career and i am also expecting a good fight and the fight will take place at 190 pounds which i think is fair for Tyron Woodley. The only problem is Tyron Woodley was explosive but for the past few fights we have not seen that explosiveness and he lost those fights and if he could regain that explosiveness he used to have then he could win against Jake Paul by knockout. Yeah, but that's in the UFC and two of them were only losses on points. Boxing is a different matter. McGregor is also on a losing streak but I'd expect him to smoke Jake Paul. According to Khabib's manager McGregor will have to resort to fighting him eventually ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . https://www.givemesport.com/1711131-conor-mcgregor-is-finished-needs-jake-paul-fight-says-khabib-nurmagomedovs-managerTo be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing. Conor has one more fight in the UFC that fans will like to watch if he loses vs. Dustin Poirier, this is a trilogy battle against Nate Diaz. If he wins this, I predict he will celebrate and announce his retirement. However, if he loses this, he will retire quietly. A good way to celebrate retirement when you win the last fight and start with Jake Paul after it. He is still a money grabber, he can fill a dome of 20K people just to show an exhibition fight. Paul may not be a very easy fight for him but I think Connor has blood boxing skills, is very much accurate in the cage. With just a little training in footwork, he could stay well in the exhibition industry. Conor loves big money, however, he can make it by fighting someone else. His team and Pacman’s team were talking already to organize a fight this year. However, Conor lost to Dustin Poirier which has caused Pacman’s team to back out from the negotiations. It also appears no one knew Anderson Silva fought Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and won hehe. Who does everyone predict to win between Anderson Silva and Logan Paul? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcza2eKTnfQ
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June 25, 2021, 10:54:25 AM |
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~ Woodly isn't a pushover even though he's been out of the UFC for a while and I still think this isn't going to be an easy fight for Paul. Woodly is certainly no Ben Askren and has knocked people out with punches. Personally if I was going to be my money would probably be on Woodly, or maybe it goes this distance. Tyron Woodley is not a pushover but he is on a loosing streak in the UFC and there is no doubt that Tyron Woodley is the most difficult opponent Jake Paul is facing in his high profile money making career and i am also expecting a good fight and the fight will take place at 190 pounds which i think is fair for Tyron Woodley. The only problem is Tyron Woodley was explosive but for the past few fights we have not seen that explosiveness and he lost those fights and if he could regain that explosiveness he used to have then he could win against Jake Paul by knockout. Yeah, but that's in the UFC and two of them were only losses on points. Boxing is a different matter. McGregor is also on a losing streak but I'd expect him to smoke Jake Paul. According to Khabib's manager McGregor will have to resort to fighting him eventually ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . https://www.givemesport.com/1711131-conor-mcgregor-is-finished-needs-jake-paul-fight-says-khabib-nurmagomedovs-managerTo be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing. Conor has one more fight in the UFC that fans will like to watch if he loses vs. Dustin Poirier, this is a trilogy battle against Nate Diaz. If he wins this, I predict he will celebrate and announce his retirement. However, if he loses this, he will retire quietly. A good way to celebrate retirement when you win the last fight and start with Jake Paul after it. He is still a money grabber, he can fill a dome of 20K people just to show an exhibition fight. Paul may not be a very easy fight for him but I think Connor has blood boxing skills, is very much accurate in the cage. With just a little training in footwork, he could stay well in the exhibition industry. Conor loves big money, however, he can make it by fighting someone else. His team and Pacman’s team were talking already to organize a fight this year. However, Conor lost to Dustin Poirier which has caused Pacman’s team to back out from the negotiations. It also appears no one knew Anderson Silva fought Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and won hehe. Who does everyone predict to win between Anderson Silva and Logan Paul? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcza2eKTnfQThere's another fight of Connor, it's already the 3rd fight and if he wins this fight, then we will surely see a Manny vs Connor fight happen. Both fighters needs to win, Connor to win against Poirier and Manny needs to win against Spence, and there names will be hot again.
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This matches can't affect the boxing industry and they still have my respect, it is true that we always have a choice to watch, to bet or not at all since not all boxing activities we are interested to, most of the time we are just watching the main event since there's a money there. This kind of exhibition match are kinda trend right now, we might see more in the coming years. This will be an easy match for Jake Paul, no doubt.
We can surely see a lot of these things happen and people will surely watch this because they will get curious about the fight on who's going to win between a non-professional boxer and a former UFC fighter, and people will watch this because they are tired of seeing just traditional boxing they really want something new, but don't get me wrong regular boxing is still awesome to watch, people now tend to look for something new in this time of crisis, and because of the Paul brothers giving something like these, they could be another step ahead in taking away a lot, because they know what people want right now.
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I've become less, and less interested in boxing the more that I've gotten into UFC over the years. But, I am interested in hearing what seasoned, die hard boxing fans actually think of these cross over events that have happened over the last few years. Conor, Logan Paul, and Jake Paul. Obviously, there has always been white collar boxing events, and cross overs from different sports, but it seems its becoming more frequent recently, with some MMA fighters showing a desire to get involved with Boxing simply because you earn more money. I'm not exactly a die hard and more of a casual fan but I don't mind them. Depends on who's fighting. Most aren't worth watching but some of them are interesting if not just for the novelty factor and anything can happen in these fights and people always tune in for the potential upset when it's a mismatch like the Logan/Mayweather bout. They'll only become more popular as people realise how much money is to be made but if people don't like them then they don't have to watch them but even half of the people who complain about them probably still tune in for it whether they pay for it or not. To be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing.
You could probably argue that Conor is bigger than the UFC. Even when he loses, his stock still manages to be about the same, due to his exploits earlier in his career. I'm not sure I like Conor's personality, and out of the octagon persona, but I can't help but watch his fights, and actually root for him to win. The guy is one of the most skilled, and aesthetically pleasing fighters there is. Probably one of the best strikers to ever walk into the cage, and because of these reasons he knows that money will follow him regardless of the results. Which is actually what I think has caused him to not have that same passion he had several years ago, since he was chasing money back then. Now money practically chases him. He's still going to be one of the biggest draws but that isn't going to last forever and if he keep losing people will lose interest not to mention Connor will probably lose interest first. It's hard to keep walking into the ring when you've probably got a hundred million+ in the bank, especially if you keep losing. Connor still has an ego and probably doesn't want to be labelled a bum. There will be people who will quickly take his place in the superstar category. Francis Ngannou is probably the most exciting fighter right now and if that fight with Jon Jones ever happens it'll probably break UFC records. I'd actually like to see Ngannou fight someone like Tyson Fury as even though he's no where close to being a better boxer than him there's probably not many people he can't knock out if he lands one of those bombs he throws. Fury seems to potentially be interested in the fitght as well which makes me optimistic that it could happen. Ngannou needs a couple more wins under his belt and Tyson needs to get the Wilder rematch and then probably the AJ fights out of the way but after that I could see him taking these big money cross over fights as there'll be no worthwhile opponents left for him really.
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June 25, 2021, 08:30:23 PM |
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~ There's another fight of Connor, it's already the 3rd fight and if he wins this fight, then we will surely see a Manny vs Connor fight happen. Both fighters needs to win, Connor to win against Poirier and Manny needs to win against Spence, and there names will be hot again. Both Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor has huge fan base and even if they do not win their next fight and if Manny Pacquiao wants to announce his retirement with one last fight it can be against Conor McGregor and it will do big numbers irrespective of their wins or losses in their next fight. Lets be real, if Logan Paul and Jake Paul can pull in big numbers, Conor McGregor can always pull big numbers and he has proved that time after time.
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I feel like the Paul brothers might have peaked with the Mayweather fight. Logan gave it his best shot but just couldn’t entertain with a KO like we all wanted to see. His brother has done a good job of giving us knockout clips but we can only watch so many Nate Robinson type fights. If they can’t get Logan a big ticket next opponent I think these guys will only see their numbers decline from here.
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~ There's another fight of Connor, it's already the 3rd fight and if he wins this fight, then we will surely see a Manny vs Connor fight happen. Both fighters needs to win, Connor to win against Poirier and Manny needs to win against Spence, and there names will be hot again. Both Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor has huge fan base and even if they do not win their next fight and if Manny Pacquiao wants to announce his retirement with one last fight it can be against Conor McGregor and it will do big numbers irrespective of their wins or losses in their next fight. Lets be real, if Logan Paul and Jake Paul can pull in big numbers, Conor McGregor can always pull big numbers and he has proved that time after time. Pacquiao is making history by still fighting the best boxers in the world even at his age now, I think he has no time fighting an exhibition fight if they will not meet their target. Prior to the defeat of Connor in his last fight, they were talking about a huge figure, and I don't think it's still possible if Connor will keep losing.
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~ Woodly isn't a pushover even though he's been out of the UFC for a while and I still think this isn't going to be an easy fight for Paul. Woodly is certainly no Ben Askren and has knocked people out with punches. Personally if I was going to be my money would probably be on Woodly, or maybe it goes this distance. Tyron Woodley is not a pushover but he is on a loosing streak in the UFC and there is no doubt that Tyron Woodley is the most difficult opponent Jake Paul is facing in his high profile money making career and i am also expecting a good fight and the fight will take place at 190 pounds which i think is fair for Tyron Woodley. The only problem is Tyron Woodley was explosive but for the past few fights we have not seen that explosiveness and he lost those fights and if he could regain that explosiveness he used to have then he could win against Jake Paul by knockout. Yeah, but that's in the UFC and two of them were only losses on points. Boxing is a different matter. McGregor is also on a losing streak but I'd expect him to smoke Jake Paul. According to Khabib's manager McGregor will have to resort to fighting him eventually ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . https://www.givemesport.com/1711131-conor-mcgregor-is-finished-needs-jake-paul-fight-says-khabib-nurmagomedovs-managerTo be honest, if Connor does keep losing I think he'll just resort to these cross-sport match-ups as he knows they'll be big paydays and much more than he's getting in the UFC. At least he can choose his own opponents rather than having to get Dana's blessing. Conor has one more fight in the UFC that fans will like to watch if he loses vs. Dustin Poirier, this is a trilogy battle against Nate Diaz. If he wins this, I predict he will celebrate and announce his retirement. However, if he loses this, he will retire quietly. A good way to celebrate retirement when you win the last fight and start with Jake Paul after it. He is still a money grabber, he can fill a dome of 20K people just to show an exhibition fight. Paul may not be a very easy fight for him but I think Connor has blood boxing skills, is very much accurate in the cage. With just a little training in footwork, he could stay well in the exhibition industry. Conor loves big money, however, he can make it by fighting someone else. His team and Pacman’s team were talking already to organize a fight this year. However, Conor lost to Dustin Poirier which has caused Pacman’s team to back out from the negotiations. It also appears no one knew Anderson Silva fought Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and won hehe. Who does everyone predict to win between Anderson Silva and Logan Paul? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcza2eKTnfQThere's another fight of Connor, it's already the 3rd fight and if he wins this fight, then we will surely see a Manny vs Connor fight happen. Both fighters needs to win, Connor to win against Poirier and Manny needs to win against Spence, and there names will be hot again. I was talking about the agreement made by Conor’s team and Pacman’s team before Conor’s fight against Dustin. In any case, I speculate that Conor versus Pacman might only be organized if Conor wins his next fight against Dustin Poirier and if Pacman loses his fight versus Errol Spence. Pacman’s next fight if he wins might be a rematch with Floyd Mayweather.
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June 26, 2021, 05:04:52 AM |
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~ There's another fight of Connor, it's already the 3rd fight and if he wins this fight, then we will surely see a Manny vs Connor fight happen. Both fighters needs to win, Connor to win against Poirier and Manny needs to win against Spence, and there names will be hot again. Both Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor has huge fan base and even if they do not win their next fight and if Manny Pacquiao wants to announce his retirement with one last fight it can be against Conor McGregor and it will do big numbers irrespective of their wins or losses in their next fight. Lets be real, if Logan Paul and Jake Paul can pull in big numbers, Conor McGregor can always pull big numbers and he has proved that time after time. Pacquiao is making history by still fighting the best boxers in the world even at his age now, I think he has no time fighting an exhibition fight if they will not meet their target. Prior to the defeat of Connor in his last fight, they were talking about a huge figure, and I don't think it's still possible if Connor will keep losing. Well, I'm not sure but when Pacquiao retires, he might lose some huge chunk of money from his professional fights that earns millions of dollars. He was planning to run for presidency for him to retain huge revenues (legal and illegal) after his retirement. I know he's a good person, but I say this once again. Politics is a dirty business, everyone steals. Now, when his plan doesn't work. Most probably he'll take the route of exhibition games like the latest trend today. I can be wrong here, but these are just my 2 cents.
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June 29, 2021, 04:50:33 AM |
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@Oasisman. A person who enters politics is a compromised person. No matter how idealistic you are or no matter how good, the person becomes twisted and his moral compass points south imstead of north. The person he was before politics is gone.
I reckon Pacman’s fight vs. Spence might be more than a challenge for the WBC and IBF championships if he is running for president. This will not be about money or the belts. I reckon this is for his popularity and the real value of the win is his name on the ballot hehe.
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June 29, 2021, 07:03:49 AM |
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@Oasisman. A person who enters politics is a compromised person. No matter how idealistic you are or no matter how good, the person becomes twisted and his moral compass points south imstead of north. The person he was before politics is gone.
They aren't a compromised one, they are more of an indifferent one because if they want to they can always stay with their ideals even if they are scorned for it. I don't think that it suddenly develops to be honest because I think that entering politics is just like money, if there's a lot of it, your real self amplifies. I reckon Pacman’s fight vs. Spence might be more than a challenge for the WBC and IBF championships if he is running for president. This will not be about money or the belts. I reckon this is for his popularity and the real value of the win is his name on the ballot hehe.
I hope that he won't run for presidency because our country is already in shambles with a bad stance against Chinese takeover on our islands in the EEZ plus I think that he should stick to boxing. I agree that this is probably a popularity game because he was gone for a long time in the ring and now that election is nigh, this fight will make Pacquiao the talk of the town.
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June 29, 2021, 07:45:55 AM |
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It will not be his last fight as long as he has followers that are eager to see him inside the ring and the promoters can still sell his fights. And who knows, maybe in the future one of these Paul brothers will enter the professional boxing world, once they are tired of these exhibition fights? As they are testing their strength and power inside the ring, they may move on to acquiring professional boxing belts. That's exactly what I just said so I don't get what's the point of quoting me instead of the one that I have quoted. I think that they are already considered a professional fighters because they have been training. Maybe we will see them go against pro boxers in the future because I am sure that exhibition matches aren't going to be good for them forever.
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