Will Satoshi ever come forward?

[Cryptoking1205]

Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?

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[mk4]

Chances are, probably not. Simply because he/she/they don't have any reason to. I literally don't see a single pro besides the fact that the mystery is finally unveiled. As for the biggest con, almost any information about Satoshi being revealed is a con. Satoshi's Chinese? "ChiNa OwNs BiTcOiN". Satoshi's a Trump/Biden supporter? "BiTcOiN iS fOr LeFt-WiNg/RiGhT-WiNg" or whatever. The list goes on.

[NeuroticFish]

I'd also say that most probably he won't.
There were quite a number of possibly good reasons for him to come forward, especially when a bunch of clowns started to claim they're him, and he didn't. So why would he come out now?
No, no chance. I'd also say that his anonymity makes him - and us (!) - more powerful.

[mrongoz22]

About sathoshi full of pros and cons, many are curious about him, he has appeared in public but his work is called gold in digital, some say they are a team of 11 people, who worked together, which finally came up with bitcoin... don't even understand which news is accurate..

[Lorence.xD]

To answer your question, I don't think that we are going to see the day that satoshi will ever come forward. Satoshi wants to remain anonymous and I hope that we will respect his wishes to remain anonymous. I don't know exactly what cons or pros will there be if satoshi was to show up but one thing that I know is that we won't see that from happening.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Chances are, probably not. Simply because he/she/they don't have any reason to. I literally don't see a single pro besides the fact that the mystery is finally unveiled. As for the biggest con, almost any information about Satoshi being revealed is a con. Satoshi's Chinese? "ChiNa OwNs BiTcOiN". Satoshi's a Trump/Biden supporter? "BiTcOiN iS fOr LeFt-WiNg/RiGhT-WiNg" or whatever. The list goes on.

I totally agree with you. The disappearance of satoshi was one of the most important events in the history of bitcoin, and after years I'm sure that it was a good move for BTC. Having no centralized identity that you can target hate on is great. The appearance of satoshi will definitely have a negative impact on the btc price.

@OP To be hones i think that satoshi is dead. Died in a car accident or other sudden death situation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts

He was posting almost every day. Few posts daily and than disappeared. He didn't even say goodbye. He did not write that he was abandoning the project because BTC is ready enough for that. He just disappeared.

[Cryptoking1205]

Chances are, probably not. Simply because he/she/they don't have any reason to. I literally don't see a single pro besides the fact that the mystery is finally unveiled. As for the biggest con, almost any information about Satoshi being revealed is a con. Satoshi's Chinese? "ChiNa OwNs BiTcOiN". Satoshi's a Trump/Biden supporter? "BiTcOiN iS fOr LeFt-WiNg/RiGhT-WiNg" or whatever. The list goes on.

This is my consensus too but going along with this note, do you think any of this would have really mattered if Satoshi didn't disappear to begin with? The world is entirely a different place since he was last heard from. Nonetheless, it's interesting to think about how much power one person can garnish in these types of situations and he chose to give all that power away - to the people, which was undoubtedly the correct thing to do. A part of me would love for him to come forward in 30-40 years but at the same time, staying anonymous is most likely what he wanted from the start.

[passwordnow]

I think we've got a bunch of discussions about ifs for satoshi's sudden appearance. But I'll settle for the incident that there's no hope for it. Satoshi has hidden for a long time and I don't think that he'll show himself all of a sudden just because the market has been pumping. If he wants to show himself, he had done that a long time ago when only a few people believe about bitcoin after his first disappearance. But it's a different scenario this time, a lot has been believing in it and bitcoin became better when it hadn't shown himself for a long time. No government has to track the main guy behind bitcoin.

[btc78]

Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?

Is this part of your Film making target? to use satoshi for your project?

Hey man,

New here but long time crypto investor. About to start my own film production company in the coming months. This might be our first project. Love the idea.

Anyway Good luck to your upcoming company and hope this will be crypto connected business.

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But personally about Satoshi coming out? if the man really want this to happen then he'll do it on her own .

[isaac_clarke22]

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Surely media will be mind-blown once that 30-40 years you mentioned have happened.
I personally doubt he will come forward. We already have fake-toshi/s here, and that does not even make him come forward.
He already made something decentralized and surely governments would have a lot of questions to him if he decides to do so, but again I doubt.

[dkbit98]

Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?

No, Satoshi is probably dead, but you can expect to see more and more Faketoshi characters popping up in future like Craig Steven Wright, Bilal Khalid (James Caan), Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido, Ronald Keala Kua Maria, Jörg Molt or Phil Wilson (Scronty).

They all claimed they are the real Satoshi but nobody ever provided any real proof, except making some manipulations, lawsuits and fake ownership for Bitcoin whitepaper, so it is probably better that we never the know real identity of Satoshi.


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[anu1908]

This is my consensus too but going along with this note, do you think any of this would have really mattered if Satoshi didn't disappear to begin with?

nah, people can easily throw new conspiracy theory regardless of satoshi identity. let's say he's a japanese person, some "experts" can easily connect him with one photo or another to establish the left-right wing theory. it doesn't really matter. let him rest, since his dissapearance was probably planned (he's working on another project according to his last message, so let's just believe that).

[DannyHamilton]

I don't believe Satoshi is capable of "coming forward" any longer.  It is my belief that he has been dead for a while now.

[d_fitrie]

satoshi nakamoto is a very smart person he knows what he has to do this choice to be anonymous is chosen by satoshi maybe if satoshi is known by many people then everyone wants to target him for business partners or want to harm him then satoshi's choice is very right to hide his identity.

[kaggie]

There is a large risk of kidnapping and harm that could happen to him if he were to come forward. This could be from

* people who want his bitcoin, and would try to take it through physical threat to him or anyone near him
* people who hate bitcoin, and want to punish him

Without physicality, there are also the possibilities of lawsuits from the scavengers of the world who would tie him up in courts forever.

I always considered Hal Finney as a possibility for Satoshi.

That said, the reason he disappeared and his last decade could be incredibly mundane, with the idea of him much larger than the reality.

[dothebeats]

There really isn't any incentive for him/her/them to come back and reveal themselves. At this point, bitcoin has come to a point that it matured and doesn't really need the guidance, advice, or even mere presence of its creator. With that said, Satoshi coming back would have little to no difference to the current state of things in bitcoin, as it had already spread far and wide around the world that Satoshi's authority wouldn't really be obeyed anymore by a lot of people.

It's good that bitcoin remains a cryptocurrency with no known creator, as it instills that anonymity is extremely important on this particular currency that they created.

[Tigerheart3026]

Satoshi Nakamoto is a person or a team, it has not proven yet. i don't see any possibility to satoshi coming forward in the future. safety is also involved if reveal identity in the public.
although many people have already claimed as satoshi but they have not been able to show proper evidence.

[ziyaaa]

We don't even know whether Satoshi is alive or not. Let's say Satoshi is alive, then I think there is no meaning to show oneself from now on. We should have known who Satoshi is from the start. Now, we don't also know how a probable revelation could affect the market.

[Anonylz]

I doubt this will ever happen, even without his presence there is already too much emotions and sentiment happening,  people are going out of their mind with market down most times, too many people will want answers and who knows what else could happen,  better to remain anonymous.

[Zanab247]

I think so, because most of the things he or she put in place in the world is giving good results which many people will like to see he or she to appreciate for the good work. Since Satoshi impact is still keeping some countries to sustain in their economy they would like to celebrate he or she as a king or queen.

[Bitcoin-Eco]

Satoshi could have returned many times. Would people even listen? He or She did the best anonymous development then disappeared. So well in fact Satoshi could be right in front of you but you wouldn't believe it. If however Satoshi did provide proof "keys " then Bitcoin might fall apart. Some of bitcoin value comes from the absence of Satoshi

[Obito]

Satoshi could have returned many times. Would people even listen? He or She did the best anonymous development then disappeared. So well in fact Satoshi could be right in front of you but you wouldn't believe it. If however Satoshi did provide proof "keys " then Bitcoin might fall apart. Some of bitcoin value comes from the absence of Satoshi

Exactly, even prophets and gods coming down this world declaring their identity is going to be ignored and laugh at because everyone is realistic and will have a really hard time believing the unbelievable, that's just like satoshi, if s/he suddenly came out declaring his identity, s/he better have some sort of damning proof that s/he is who s/he claim s/he is, but let's be real for a second, there's a lot of opportunity for satoshi to come out but s/he didn't, pretty sure that satoshi is implying that s/he wants to remain anonymous.

[bittraffic]

Satoshi coming out would be the government and institutions' dream come true. We are already used to Bitcoin volatility like it could dip 50% even just for correction. We probably won't mind if satoshi comes out and the market crash.

Him coming out is likely not going to happen. He seemed to have done everything to hide, it's illogical to come out after all these things he did. He can't be lured to go out all because they are creating a Satoshi monument in Budapest! 

[ropyu1978]

after a long time he was hiding, and hiding his identity, for about 12 years, I think he is difficult to appear in public, I think he will stick to his stance, and will hide his identity,, he only wants people to know about his work but not about him. ..

[songchunlai]

I came out and was always deleted. I was so angry. I have modified my email address of P2P foundation.

[btc78]

I think so, because most of the things he or she put in place in the world is giving good results which many people will like to see he or she to appreciate for the good work. Since Satoshi impact is still keeping some countries to sustain in their economy they would like to celebrate he or she as a king or queen.

If Satoshi is still alive, but the thing is is he? more than 10 years and no even a single word.  if Satoshi wanted to show himself i think he already did specially this year alone.
and Surely he will come out to let people know about the progress if there are news but there is none.

I came out and was always deleted. I was so angry. I have modified my email address of P2P foundation.

What are you talking? this was not even related to the discussion.

after a long time he was hiding, and hiding his identity, for about 12 years, I think he is difficult to appear in public, I think he will stick to his stance, and will hide his identity,, he only wants people to know about his work but not about him. ..

If he is really hiding then We must be happy, but what if the creator was already gone?

[Lucius]

He was posting almost every day. Few posts daily and than disappeared. He didn't even say goodbye. He did not write that he was abandoning the project because BTC is ready enough for that. He just disappeared.

What exactly happened to Satoshi has not been clarified yet, although I believe that some of his close associates know much more than has ever been made public. It is possible that some additional information will be published over time, although it will be a distant history that will no longer be able to influence Bitcoin in any way.

If you read what actually happened behind the scenes in the early years, it can be clearly concluded that some individuals were not satisfied with the fact that Satoshi still makes all the important decisions. Apparently there was very strong pressure on Satoshi to actually leave, or at least leave most of the decisions to some other people - and from everything Satoshi did before his disappearance, it is clear that he did not leave until he made some important moves.

One of the best articles that describes in detail all the events and gives a very good insight into everything that happened between Satoshi and his close associates should be read by everyone. I will single out the following :

Still, it’s difficult to say if Satoshi’s decision to walk away was his alone. After all, over the year, there had been a dramatic change in tone toward his leadership.

As to whether he intended to leave, however, Satoshi was definite, his sign-off observable when he removed his name from Bitcoin’s copyright statements[X]. Thereafter, he would also update Bitcoin.org, adding the names and emails of other developers – including Andresen, Sirius, Laszlo and Nils Schneider (tcatm) – to its contact page and removing his own[X].

What little we know about the transition was represented by Andresen publicly when he claimed a week later to have received Satoshi’s “blessing” to start “more active project management.”[X]

In the interim, Andresen assumed the trappings of authority, putting out a “help wanted” post and making clear to new volunteers they would now need to move the project forward[X].

“Who is willing and able to help out? Don't ask permission, just jump in. Your reward will be recognition, admiration and respect. It is time to take Bitcoin from, essentially, a single programmer project to a robust open-source project with lots of contributors.”

[DatKing]

Some people even say that Bitcoin could go down at a incredibly high rate if Satoshi reveals his/her identity. But I don't see any logic about thinking in this way. But I'm sure that Bitcoin will be affected by it if such thing happens.

[maydna]

I don't think Satoshi will coming from his hiding places and tell the public that he is the real Satoshi. He will stay in his hidden place and still working for what he did, but perhaps, he will ask some of his friends to watch cryptocurrency from somewhere else.

As there is no clue about who is Satoshi, we can let him hide without we can know what was he did. But I think he will show himself in the future, but I am not sure why he comes to the public.

[mk4]

Some people even say that Bitcoin could go down at a incredibly high rate if Satoshi reveals his/her identity. But I don't see any logic about thinking in this way. But I'm sure that Bitcoin will be affected by it if such thing happens.

Think about it: what if it's the case that Satoshi had somewhat of a bad past? Or if he/she/they support a certain politician or have a certain controversial ideology? A weed smoker? An alcoholic? Something ridiculous like Satoshi being a fan of some anime kink and likes waifu pillows? Literally anything that could be twisted to a negative and over-exaggerated will be used by those so called "journalists".

[nightxglow]

The pro might be well now our curiousity is gone, and bitcoin will surely be a hot topic for a while since the founder now appear, and will have a good impact to the price i guess. But then, the cons might be happen if satoshi is not what we expect him to be, like the imagination is destroyed, and people might get disappointed or else.
But still i don't think satoshi will ever want to appear in the society, ever. Since if he wanted to do so, he would have done so for a long time ago.

[Vatimins]

     Just leave the damn guy alone ffs. He clearly doesn't want himself to be found and he most certainly has valid reasons for this. Just admire the guy and appreciate his creation which has lead us to be here. Forcing a guy to come out against his will would never end up to a good outcome anyway so let us just stop pestering and let the guy be. There are far more important things related to bitcoin which are very significant to its future. Might as well focus on these things instead of more nonsense.

[just_Alice]

There are no pros and cons here, IMO. What he created is what matters most, from his posts we can have some kind of imagination of what kind of person he was. But why does it matter who is he or she exactly? That knowledge will change nothing. On the other hand, he's a billionaire, declaring identity will have consequences, Satoshi would no longer live calmly, he'd worry whether some idiots will break this night into his house and try to steal all the money, he'd have to become a public personality, hire security...who needs all that?
Without exposure Satoshi can maintain a calm life, with no media involved, making gossips around every move. Right now Satoshi is rich, famous, and anonymous, what else can you wish for?

[Reosta_]

I think that we will never learn who Satoshi is. Satoshi should have revealed himself or herself in the first times of Bitcoin. Now, we don't know how much affect Satoshi's revelation could leave on people. And it is hard to predict its probable reflection on the market.

[acener]

We don't even know if Satoshi is still alive or not it has been more than a decade since he left.
In those years we couldn't find a clue or something that would lead to his real identity so I think there is super low chance that he would come out from the shadow beside what would he gain from it?
If he wants attention he wouldn't hide at all and just go on after the success of his project so for me he doesn't have any reason to show up.

[lalabotax]

The possibility is very small so he can reappear as Satoshi and reveal who he can actually in the real world. And only with strong evidence of new people will believe it as Satoshi. And this may not be easy especially because so far many people recognize themselves as Satoshi. Especially if indeed Satoshi is not just one person but is an organization. Then the possibility will be smaller.
Even if he will reappear, there is a possibility he will not reveal his real life, this is too risky.

[rhomelmabini]

I think that we will never learn who Satoshi is. Satoshi should have revealed himself or herself in the first times of Bitcoin. Now, we don't know how much affect Satoshi's revelation could leave on people. And it is hard to predict its probable reflection on the market.

I believe there's not much of a huge feat if he comes forward again because Bitcoin has been a success anymore. He can only be known if ever his bitcoins will be moved but I guess it's still difficult since he/she/they know how to hide without a trace.

The only thing that was alarming if those bitcoins he hoard will be dumped among the market, though it's a good thing since there's no monopoly but I guess there's still worry and FUD will surely be created.

[Oceat]

The question is, does Satoshi is still alive? Does Satoshi wanted to be found? If he/they want they will already a long time ago. I'm not hoping he/they will coming to show themselves anymore. People will tend to ask more questions if he/they would show up and what could be the possibility that he would remain peaceful in his/their time left in this world when the world/people wanted them.

I would suggest that we left it as it is and leave Satoshi alone for pete sake how many times I will be reading something like this in the future?

[titular]

Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?

I think if he came out, governments would find ways to stick dirt on him. Accuse him of being a pedo or something and get Bitcoin the FUD of a lifetime.

[indo1]

Satoshi is indeed very full of mysteries, and also many pros and cons, therefore there are still many who do not believe about bitcoin, some people may think badly, plus the history of bitcoin was once used for illegal transactions, and also satoshi as well as people from the dark web, It is not wrong to be wary, but bitcoin is now too public. If satoshi will appear in the future and take over, why not now? if they were in control and sold the whole then they would have been very rich.

[FinneysTrueVision]

There are many theories about who Satoshi might be. Some people think he may even be dead. It would be better if they did not come forward. Bitcoin doesn't need leaders. If their identity was revealed then it could have major repercussions that could destabilize the community.

[Sithara007]

Need to look in to the legal aspect as well. Let's not forget that Satoshi is the mastermind behind most important anti-authority innovation in recorded history. The governments are not going to be kind to him. I won't be surprised if he ends up like Ross Ulbricht or Edward Snowden. Ulbricht was a small fish, and yet he received life without parole. The reasons is that he went against the system. Similarly fake charges will be brought against Satoshi and he will be imprisoned, if he reveals his true identity.

[serjent05]

Satoshi had been hiding for almost a decade now, I don't think that he will reveal himself at this point.  Bitcoin is doing well even without him, so probably he thinks that there is no use if ever he will come forward and will only disrupt or hinder Bitcoin being decentralized since, for sure he will have a huge influence thus his decision will greatly be weighed and will affect Bitcoin decentralization.

[terrorJR]

no answer is a very correct answer.
I totally agree with what you said, I also think that satoshi will not appear. but for now there are so many claims about this satoshi. indirectly if for example satoshi advanced why not from the first why only now forward.

[Shasha80]

no answer is a very correct answer.
I totally agree with what you said, I also think that satoshi will not appear. but for now there are so many claims about this satoshi. indirectly if for example satoshi advanced why not from the first why only now forward.

Until now no one has been able to show the existence of Satoshi Nakamoto, not long after creating Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto just disappeared.
Satoshi did not leave the slightest trace, many people have searched for the whereabouts of Satoshi Nakamoto and ended in failure. Why after
a long absence then Satoshi had to reappear, there is no strong reason why Satoshi Nakamoto should appear. What appears is only people who
seek popularity by claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, whereas all of them have no solid evidence to show that they are Satoshi. I believe Satoshi
will not reappear, because he knew that finding out his identity could jeopardize his life, so forget the plan to find Satoshi Nakamoto, it will only
be a waste of time, it's better to focus on his creation, namely Bitcoin.

[hannahB4]

I literarily don't see any disadvantage to them coming forward but if their existence is been known this might give bitcoin more popularity and positive recognition for those who still doubt it. Nobody can say if he/she has ever come forward or even if he/she has come forward without us been aware.

[kryptqnick]

Whoever this person is, I don't think they will come forward. One possible reason is being dead, but I hope that's not true. If Satoshi is alive and hasn't come to the public yet, I don't see why anything in the future might motivate any different action. Satoshi deserves privacy and probably won't give it up. Moreover, I think it's actually better for the community this way because an abstract Bitcoin creator is more appealing than any real one. The real person has some political views and did some things in life, and this could divide the community. Plus in times of difficult decisions (like SegWit) people would ask for advice and one person would become very influential.

[Altcoinsintel]

Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?

Are you so sure it's a him? I don't think Satoshi ever stated gender.