RECOMMENDATION FOR GENERATING FUNDS

[Emanuelaeventry]

Forum as an organized place where people are meet for serious business discussion regarding bitcoin and other altcoin need to have a fund generating platform for periodical maintenance of the forum for a conducive environment. Generally Forum are usually made of either a large or small number of people with different business coming together to achieve one aim. But for the bitcointalk forum our purpose as a member is to keep bitcoin dialogue threading and equally generating a useful idea that can solve already existing problem and future problem.
As a participating forum member I have I see reasons for the forum to have a medium through which funds can be raise for the maintenance of this forum. The depicted list are the mediums for funding raising.
1. Registration fee: the forum should be rearranged in the other at which every nee member can pay some dues as gate fee that can grant them registration access to the forum.
2. Finding fee: every member that is caught violating the forum rule should be made to pay find before they can be allowed to participate again in the forum
3. Market capitalisation and bounty pools should be deposited here till any company round up their bounty campaign. At the end their money will be sent to them and the forum shall be compensated.

I believe if the above recommendations is implemented, the forum will have enough fund in maintaining this forum.

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[UserU]

Dude, charging to use the forum is one of the worst monetization ideas I've ever come across.

[Upgrade00]

I believe if the above recommendations is implemented, the forum will have enough fund in maintaining this forum.

Asides the fact that these ideas are pretty bad and goes against the ideologies behind Bitcoin, the forum has enough funds and the donation option has been disabled for a while now, cause the forum does not need donations.

You've made quite a number of threads about how you feel the forum should be run, I understand this is a community driven forum, but allow the admins to do their job and focus more on the purpose of this community; a platform for discussing Bitcoin and crypto related topics.

[NotATether]

You do realize that this forum is holding well over 500BTC and is getting dozens of mBTC more in banner ad revenue every week, right?

[Pmalek]

All the suggestions are bad.

Forum as an organized place where people are meet for serious business discussion regarding bitcoin and other altcoin need to have a fund generating platform for periodical maintenance of the forum for a conducive environment.

Bitcointalk has 100s of bitcoin in its reserves. Some are held in a multisig wallet and theymos is in possession of a big chunk of it as well. Bitcointalk doesn't need such a thing.

1. Registration fee: the forum should be rearranged in the other at which every nee member can pay some dues as gate fee that can grant them registration access to the forum.

No, it shouldn't. This is a free forum and the knowledge shared on it is and should remain free. The point of Bitcoin is not that 2-3 selected users benefit from thousands of others seeking knowledge.

2. Finding fee: every member that is caught violating the forum rule should be made to pay find before they can be allowed to participate again in the forum

Those who break forum rules are temp banned, perma banned or have their posts deleted. Plagiarism also gets punished by disallowing the user to take advantage of his signature space.   

3. Market capitalisation and bounty pools should be deposited here till any company round up their bounty campaign. At the end their money will be sent to them and the forum shall be compensated.

Although I wouldn't have anything against bounty campaigns having to pay a middleman to hold the coins to be allowed to advertise on the forum, it's not going to happen because no one cares about the altcoin section besides those participating in bounty campaigns. It creates a false sense of security and even if you get those shit coins in the end, most of the time they aren't worth anything.

[LoyceV]

You do realize that this forum is holding well over 500BTC and is getting dozens of mBTC more in banner ad revenue every week, right?

Even better: the forum owns more than 1250 BTC. To put it in a picture, that's this much:

(source)

At the rate Bitcoin is growing, this could very well be enough to fund the forum forever.

Registration fee

You should read this post (click it for full context):

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. ~ When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc.

For what it's worth: I wouldn't have joined Bitcointalk if I had to pay for it. I didn't join to earn from campaigns (I didn't even know about signature campaigns when I joined).

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Forum as an organized place where people are meet for serious business discussion regarding bitcoin and other altcoin need to have a fund generating platform for periodical maintenance of the forum for a conducive environment. Generally Forum are usually made of either a large or small number of people with different business coming together to achieve one aim.

Forums are from different classes. They can be well- or bad-organized/ moderated forums. The forum you are joining is well organized and seriously moderated.

If you don't believe in my words, please read the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk rules

But for the bitcointalk forum our purpose as a member is to keep bitcoin dialogue threading and equally generating a useful idea that can solve already existing problem and future problem.

What you said is not enough. If you want to know missions of this forum, please see Welcome message

As a participating forum member I have I see reasons for the forum to have a medium through which funds can be raise for the maintenance of this forum. The depicted list are the mediums for funding raising.
1. Registration fee: the forum should be rearranged in the other at which every nee member can pay some dues as gate fee that can grant them registration access to the forum.

No newbie jail.

2. Finding fee: every member that is caught violating the forum rule should be made to pay find before they can be allowed to participate again in the forum

See the rules. Temporary bans (maximum is three times if you break unimportant rule), and permanent bans (if you break important rule such as plagiarism).

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Your first ban is your first warning. If you have to be banned for a fourth time it is permanent and you will no longer be allowed to participate on the forum under any accounts. Note: If you are banned on one account then you are not allowed to post under any accounts you own for the duration of your ban. The only exception to this rule is Meta where you can discuss the circumstances of your ban if you wish to do so but anywhere outside of that sub will be considered ban evasion and will get your ban doubled, but it is generally best to just patiently wait out your ban and improve your posts on return and hopefully no further bans will be needed.

Warning: Anyone caught copying other users' posts or plagiarising content from elsewhere on the web will be immediately permabanned. You shouldn't need a warning to know that this isn't acceptable under any circumstances.

3. Market capitalisation and bounty pools should be deposited here till any company round up their bounty campaign. At the end their money will be sent to them and the forum shall be compensated.

The forum does not moderate scam and bounty. The community contribute with trust, trust feedback, flags but all works will be done with freedom.

[Lorence.xD]

Dude, charging to use the forum is one of the worst monetization ideas I've ever come across.

Exactly, users are going to drop down and it will defeat the purpose of a forum, because in definition, everyone should be able to join in a discussion. Good thing that OP is just a newbie because that kind of greedy and cancerous behavior shouldn't continue to exist.

[UserU]

Dude, charging to use the forum is one of the worst monetization ideas I've ever come across.

Exactly, users are going to drop down and it will defeat the purpose of a forum, because in definition, everyone should be able to join in a discussion. Good thing that OP is just a newbie because that kind of greedy and cancerous behavior shouldn't continue to exist.

Worry not, this thread can be put to rest as he's been banned with multiple alt accounts + plagiarism 😂

[dkbit98]

Registration fee: the forum should be rearranged in the other at which every nee member can pay some dues as gate fee that can grant them registration access to the forum.

Terrible idea that would probably kill bitcointalk forum and create some weird closed community of freaks that remind me on some cults.
Forum should be a free place to share ideas and talk about bitcoin, not extortion business collecting money like tax, and there are more than enough coins collected so far from donations and marketing.

Finding fee: every member that is caught violating the forum rule should be made to pay find before they can be allowed to participate again in the forum

This is not a prison or place where they cut your hand of you sinned so you have to pay for your mistakes, and nobody would pay anything.
Temporary or permanent ban is good enough, and even than we saw some mistakes like in case with Regulus from Croatian local forum.

Market capitalisation and bounty pools should be deposited here till any company round up their bounty campaign. At the end their money will be sent to them and the forum shall be compensated.

There are already trusted managers who are holding funds for bounties but there are always risk nobody can cover.

At the rate Bitcoin is growing, this could very well be enough to fund the forum forever.

Why don't we instead just buy a small island or country in South America or other part in the world, and create independent libertarian state with our own citizenship?
I hear that some countries are offering their citizenship with investment from 0.2 to 3 Bitcoins and that is a good deal in my opinion.

[LoyceV]

Why don't we instead just buy a small island or country in South America or other part in the world, and create independent libertarian state with our own citizenship?

That's not the forum's mission

[mk4]

Do you people attached value for what they pay to get. Because forum is open for anyone to join, a lot of user's don't respect the rules of the forum. They post only for earning merit and this increase the level of spamming and plagiarism.

Oh sure a lot of people aren't here for good reasons. But is that good enough of a reason why we should limited access to those who are actually interested? As long as the positives heavily outweighs the negatives, we should totally be fine.

Asking for payments here and there is just simply one of the best ways of killing your own forum. People would just simply move to other forums.

[dkbit98]

That's not the forum's mission

Well it could be, place a few servers there and you are safer from rising cyber attack from evil hackers, and it would be cool to have a new libertarian country called Bitcoin(talk).
I think that Theymos would like the idea, I would apply for citizenship and we need you for all statistic processing.

[LoyceV]

I think that Theymos would like the idea

See:

I've increasingly realized over the years that the limiting factor for any project, and especially for big "dream projects" like this, is time/effort/skill/ambition, not money. I'd be willing to throw money at a realistic project to create a seastead (or a land-based increased-autonomy region), but do I want to spend hundreds of hours working on it? Not really. It's something I'd like to see exist and maybe someday live in, but it's not my passion.

(and read the rest of the post/topic)

[dkbit98]

(and read the rest of the post/topic)

Yeah I know that topic very well but we don't need any of his time and effort, we just need (his) forums Bitcoins this time 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP, you just registered on bitcointalk a few days ago and already you think you have some brilliant suggestions on how it should run?  GTFO of here, seriously.  Posts made by members like you immediately ring the alt account alarm bells, because most people aren't so high on themselves that they join a forum/group/organization/whatever and start by trying to change it--unless they're complete narcissists or, in this case, aren't who they appear to be.

Whatever the case is, all of your recommendations are silly and none of them have even a sliver of a chance of seeing the light of day.  As was pointed out, bitcointalk does not need any more money and I'm fairly certain that people wouldn't choose to pay for the things you've suggested.

Dude, charging to use the forum is one of the worst monetization ideas I've ever come across.

Seriously.  I couldn't have put it better or more succinctly myself.

[LTU_btc]

I don't know how you got impression that forum have lack of money. It's completely opposite situation. And don't you think that if forum would need for more money, theymos would find ways himslef how to monetize forum without advices from newbie who signed up here just few days ago? (Without any offense).
Now about your suggestions:
1. Bad idea. It would seriously distract new people from signing up here. Forum isn'tthat place where you should pay in order to signup and post. And I think it would be discrimination against poor people.
2. I don't think it's OK to let abusers to pay fine and let to continue using forum.
3. These things aren't moderated and forum staff shouldn't be responsible for bounties and it's payments. There is escrow services for it.

Dude, charging to use the forum is one of the worst monetization ideas I've ever come across.

Yeah, charging every forum user wouldn't be good idea, but something like Copper Membership or other similar paid rank which would give some benefits wouldn't be bad idea.

[Rikafip]

OP, you just registered on bitcointalk a few days ago and already you think you have some brilliant suggestions on how it should run?  GTFO of here, seriously.  Posts made by members like you immediately ring the alt account alarm bells, because most people aren't so high on themselves that they join a forum/group/organization/whatever and start by trying to change it--unless they're complete narcissists or, in this case, aren't who they appear to be.

+1.

Yet another pathetic merit fishing attempt made by @Emanuelaeventr, after that drivel about some sort of forum academy for newbies (lol). What he obviously doesn't understand is that he is pushing it too hard and it reeks of desperation which is the reason why his merit fishing tactic won't work. Brand new account giving advices on how forum he just joined should operate? Yeah right, genuine newbie my ass.

[ScamViruS]

You joined BitcoinTalk on June 10th and you are recommending how the forum will generate funds! I guess you understand too much instantly or you don't know anything about BitcoinTalk's fund. You have given recommendations for generating funds, all of them are bad, why other members have already cleared the above. My advice is for you, spend time in the forum and read the important information, then you will understand for yourself which is the best way.

[libert19]

What gives you idea that this forum doesn't have enough fund? I would call your suggestions worst ever in history of suggestions.