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June 19, 2021, 05:09:49 AM
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This is the first time I'm seeing ranked members applying for a campaign managed by a newbie. It just isn't right. It just goes a long way to show the perception some of us have about the forum. Its all about the money.
Thats normal actually. Like others mentioned we should not view any manager or criticize them easily just because they got a lower rank or not reputable like commonly managers here. But since this forum is bounded a hierarchy such as ranking then its a plus id you are a high rank and got some let say got some + green on your profile and got good record. Just dont jump to conclusion when we saw some maybe they are just starting their journey.

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June 19, 2021, 02:49:56 PM
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This question has been bugging me lately and I need some answers.
Do we just jump on any and every campaign that comes up even if there is cause to suspect the company is a fraud?

When the current campaign I'm promoting first launched their signature campaign thread on the forum, they got rejected by the forum (asin, they got attacked due to numerous accusations against them) but they worked it all out (atleast to my knowledge) and today they're been promoted around the forum without any issue. The only thing you can do when you discover a campaign to be a scam is to disassociate yourself from it whether you're a manager or just a promoter.

If you don't disassociate yourself then be ready for whatever outcome the community decision to take in order to contain that campaign. If not for the current red tagging of accounts associated with the campaign you mentioned, you think they won't have had more participants, majority are only here because they read or git introduce to the forum as a means to make extra bucks.

Majority don't care about what happens to those viewing their ads provided they're getting paid which is why we see many shilling a particular project (or signature in this case) all round the internet even though the evidence are there that it's a scam. They just want to profit and move on without caring what reputation such actions bring to the community. Don't be those guys, that they're doing it doesn't mean it's right.

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June 30, 2021, 06:48:36 AM
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If it was some regulated entity, you can file your case with the regulatory authority. If it wasn’t, you should be careful next time there is something like that.
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July 05, 2021, 02:11:20 AM
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It is often seen now that any member or hero member is doing it.

Most of those 'hero' members are with airdropped merits, they look at payouts and enroll.

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July 05, 2021, 06:46:15 AM
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I think the first thing you should do is to remove yourself from the campaign. Report the campaign in scam accusations/meta. Some may find doing this difficult because working campaigns was the reason why they came here. That's their mission and only concern.
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August 12, 2021, 04:53:07 PM
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Betking.io Signature Campaign is one of such campaigns that have unresolved scam accusations in the forum. These campaigns do not care about their reputation neither do the participants of the campaign. Kudos to JollyGood for being at the fore front fighting this scam campaign

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August 12, 2021, 10:02:24 PM
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In this case the campaign 1xbit.com has been accused of scamming its users but still yet reputable members of this forum apply for the campaign.
There is a whole lot of difference between a "reputable" member and a veteran. You could safely refer to high ranking members as veterans and not reputable. To be reputable takes strength of character (to be on the part of what is legal and trust, away from scam) which being a veteran member may not accord anyone. It comes with trust one earns on the forum and not ranks. To put it right, those you referred to as reputable members who are supporting an alleged scam site are just after their bellies for what they're worth in weekly payouts. No shame and conscience at all.


This is the first time I'm seeing ranked members applying for a campaign managed by a newbie.
That is even an ominous sign for fraud, yet users overlooked.

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August 13, 2021, 02:12:01 PM
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There is a whole lot of difference between a "reputable" member and a veteran. You could safely refer to high ranking members as veterans and not reputable. To be reputable takes strength of character (to be on the part of what is legal and trust, away from scam) which being a veteran member may not accord anyone. It comes with trust one earns on the forum and not ranks. To put it right, those you referred to as reputable members who are supporting an alleged scam site are just after their bellies for what they're worth in weekly payouts. No shame and conscience at all.
Earning a few bucks is more important to them than reputation. Most of the participants seem to believe the negative tags will be removed in the future.
This is the first time I'm seeing ranked members applying for a campaign managed by a newbie.
That is even an ominous sign for fraud, yet users overlooked.
It clearly states on the campaign thread "We have an option to allow users with negative trust. As long as you are a constructive poster". A campaign that welcomes participants with negative trust is a big red flag.

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August 15, 2021, 04:31:56 AM
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I think we can't call a name and state that they're a scam without providing strong proof here or even if you have it, then better open an accusation thread for them. Regarding your concern, I think rank itself does not represent merely qualification and quality unless they got it purely from working hard, being active in the forum, learning for a long time, or anything that could increase their quality. We can't close our eyes that people who buy high accounts exist. Besides, a couple of years ago, in my opinion, gaining higher ranks was easier than now with the merits method. There's a chance that these people blindly joining the campaign without care about the project itself and their reputation. As a community member who cares about this forum, of course, we can do what we can do along with the rules such as I mentioned in the beginning, make an accusation thread for scam projects or giving negative trust.

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August 15, 2021, 07:34:23 AM
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I wish more damages that can be done to fraud projects but unfortunately even red tagging the projects ANN won't do a thing, the project will still live fine off this forum, new projects aren't even scared of red tagging anymore nowadays, sigh 😓

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August 15, 2021, 08:11:43 AM
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..... I believe the one of the factors that prove the credibility of a signature campaign is the rank of members they allow to apply, most campaigns are usually open to Full members to legendary rank only, while others are even more strict and require Hero members to legendary rank only. So what happens when high members help promote a scam campaign?

Forum ranks are irrelevant in determining the credibility of a signature campaign. There are tons of hero - legendary users who are involved in scams. Not to mention, there are also tons of legendary ranks who were sold and purchased by some people. That is why, credibility cannot be determined by the rank alone.

If you think that a campaign has been involved in a series of scams, you can always report the ANN thread and/or open a flag accusation against them. The manager of the campaign, also, has to be informed about the accusation. Should the accusation prove to be with merit, then the campaign manager has to close the campaign.

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Last edit: August 15, 2021, 08:41:27 AM by Refrumatrix
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Save yourself from trouble by removing the project's signature from your profile or else you will be tagged as a member of the scam project, also I recommend making a report but won't bring down the project, I doubt that this forum is capable of going after scam projects since that's not their jobs anyway

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