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June 27, 2021, 07:40:29 AM
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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news
You are right for the case of 90% altcoins but definitely not for bitcoin investments. For the case of bitcoin investments, the current times must be a very much right time to get into in more volume and along with long-term plans. Whatever bad news will be coming up and how deeply it may be impacting this crypto space but bitcoin market will definitely defeat all of them by end of the day so we can simply invest into bitcoin regardless of whatever happens around this crypto space.

Maybe  if someone wants manipulation free market, they should wait CBDC but that's also actually gonna be manipulated by the government as well.
You may find may other manipulation free investment opportunities but none of them might be performing like bitcoin in terms of ROI. So, waiting for such manipulation free things may get full filled but may disappoint you when it comes about rate of returns you could enjoy with bitcoins.

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June 27, 2021, 07:40:45 AM
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Right now the market is not stable and it's like playing with fire if we buying at the moment. This is the time of patience. In the past time, several negative news came to ruin the market but I won't say only negative news affects the market but BTC was also in overbought reason so fall was expected fundamentally We all know when Btc starts dropping all other coins are also following BTC. Whales are trying to push the market down further. Let's see what's next but I want to remain positive whether the market takes time.

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June 27, 2021, 09:09:37 AM
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Indeed, the cryptocurrency market is completely unregulated and there is no regulatory authority. So, there are more frequent signs of market manipulation. That is why, it is very important to distinguish natural market movements from direct interventions, so as not to relate to market manipulators.

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June 27, 2021, 10:02:49 AM
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All of the people should already have known by now that cryptocurrencies are not manipulation free. It's impossible also. Because like I always say, volatility is in their nature. They can't just get rid of this. People should make their investments taking this into consideration.

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June 27, 2021, 10:09:29 AM
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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is 💯 real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news
1. I think it's already here. Most top coins decreased in value over the last 7 days, and over the last month as well. However, I don't think it's due to manipulations. It's really hard to manipulate coins with big market capitalization and a lot of trading volume because you'll need tons of resources to make a difference. Unless, of course, you count news articles and tweets as kinds of manipulations.
2. I don't think anyone believes that the market overall is resistant to manipulations. There are tons of shitcoins which of course can easily be manipulated because of their low trading volumes. When it comes to Bitcoin, however, immense resources are required to make even a small short-term difference (if, again, we're not talking about the impact of information).

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June 27, 2021, 10:28:37 AM
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Indeed, the cryptocurrency market is completely unregulated and there is no regulatory authority. So, there are more frequent signs of market manipulation. That is why, it is very important to distinguish natural market movements from direct interventions, so as not to relate to market manipulators.
It certainly is just a big old capital war against the retailer, even if some people consider crypto in general as unregulated, it's actually still regulated through those centralized exchanges.
The exchange could know who's manipulating the market by seeing transaction history, but most just gonna let the market manipulators be free because they have big capital. Just try to search up stock market manipulation history, it's full of them despite the whole market strictly regulated by the authority.

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June 27, 2021, 10:42:10 AM
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Nope, it's all manipulator! Grin

All markets are manipulated more or less. The more regulated a market is, the more difficult it is or the less manipulation takes place. The crypto market is not regulated at all, so it's a bit of a Wild West. Manipulation definitely takes place. But that has been the case since crypto's existence and will remain so for the time being.
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June 27, 2021, 11:14:00 AM
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Well, in my opinion, I think that even before we are already aware of the possibility that some cryptocurrencies can be manipulated by many big and rich people who can burn a few million dollars so they can control the market. I guess Elon has a P.R. team who are good at crypto and might have contributed to his manipulative maneuvers to get cryptos very cheap and then creating the hype and selling for a profit. Elon is not a one man crypto show, he has an army that helps him with his financial goals. For me, crypto is not manipulation free. But people can manipulate it from time to time as continuous operation would also be fatal if they wish to piss off an army of computer literate crypto investors.

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June 27, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
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from the start the crypto market can develop very fast also thanks to market manipulation. I think everyone knows this, manipulation will always exist. those with influence and money can manipulate the market. you can see Elon musk with some of his tweets and china with his ban. it's all part of market manipulation. meme coins can be hype as well including market manipulation. imagine a coin with no real use could soar high in an instant, wouldn't that include manipulation?
right, but indeed it has become something commonplace, they manipulate the market of course with the aim of profit, hoping that many people will follow in their footsteps, even that applies to major coins. and this will be very clearly seen for a worthless coin to be busy in the conversation, even though it eventually drops back and seems difficult to return to its best price

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June 27, 2021, 11:28:50 AM
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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is 💯 real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news

I never think that way, there's really manipulation going on not only on Bitcoin but on every coin that is in the market, in fact, there are a lot of channels about trading signals and it's coming from whales who wants to manipulate the market and these people are following its lead.
That's the truth. I too believe that all markets like this are usually manipulated but cryptocurrency just happen to be very obvious. With all this Big players (Institutions) coming into the space and the whales wanting more, this shouldn't be a surprise because these are the ones that have the power/funds to drive the market which ever way they want and we are witnessing this happen.
Of course there are huge manipulation of the market but we just have to know how to play along and not lose too much of our investment.


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June 27, 2021, 11:51:17 AM
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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is 💯 real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news
that's how they do it mate.. And no one can stop them to manipulate the market just to have a cheaper price before making investment. In fact even market shows a green and making progress right now, it always going down as well after because of some people that dumping and maybe not satisfied on the current price in the market. So don't expect it will bump more because it still higher for those whales, and surely they will make a way to manipulate it until it becomes cheap again that's why price of bitcoin can't even grow more nowadays..
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June 27, 2021, 12:19:17 PM
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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is 💯 real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news

You're right! Bad news in the crypto market is a harbinger of a decline in the price of cryptocurrencies, but this does not always mean the beginning of a bear market. As we already know, if a bear market starts, then it can last a couple of years. On the other hand, bad news can simply, within the framework of a bull market, affect the decline in cryptocurrency prices in the short term, so that large players can still buy before the main growth begins. As for the current situation, I believe that by the end of 2021 we may see another round of growth in cryptocurrency prices, and only then a bear market may begin.
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June 27, 2021, 03:48:17 PM
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There is no such thing as always going up. In such a case, no one will lose money in the crypto money market and on the contrary, they will get rich. Or vice versa, the current money circulates in the market and nobody can move forward. I don't know if bear season has started, but it will come one way or another. The winner in this business will always be those who collect from the bottom and sell on the rise with patience.
I like it that you mentioned Patients. That is the key word. Where ever you get into the market which we understand some Investors bought in at ATH, they need patients and wait for the market to get back up but when that is going to be is the question, hence the patients.
Manipulation is sure for this market and besides, as you mentioned, we shouldn't expect the market to always go up without even a correction even if the market wasn't manipulated though it will always be manipulated by those that can.
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June 27, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
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Manipulation in the cryptocurrency space is common. Any news can have an impact on the price component of a particular coin. Anyone begins to think and draw conclusions from various statements in social networks. Especially if the news comes from people well-known in this field, the so-called experts.

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Bad news in the crypto market is a harbinger of a decline in the price of cryptocurrencies, but this does not always mean the beginning of a bear market. As we already know, if a bear market starts, then it can last a couple of years. On the other hand, bad news can simply, within the framework of a bull market, affect the decline in cryptocurrency prices in the short term, so that large players can still buy before the main growth begins. As for the current situation, I believe that by the end of 2021 we may see another round of growth in cryptocurrency prices, and only then a bear market may begin.
I have always seen that during a bear run negative news will dominate and during a bull run there will be always positivity around Bitcoins or cryptos in general.

When the bull run was going on, which was just months ago, everyone was talking about how times are changing and how cryptocurrencies will dominate online payments now and some even said the banking sector will suffocate and collapse.

Now a few months later, the price drops and everyone has a reason to target and bash cryptocurrencies. Some will say that consumes a lot of energy for mining while others will give the reference of hackers using the cryptocurrency but these guys never bring these topics up when the price is going higher and the market is bullish.

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June 27, 2021, 07:03:59 PM
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Bad news in the crypto market is a harbinger of a decline in the price of cryptocurrencies, but this does not always mean the beginning of a bear market. As we already know, if a bear market starts, then it can last a couple of years. On the other hand, bad news can simply, within the framework of a bull market, affect the decline in cryptocurrency prices in the short term, so that large players can still buy before the main growth begins. As for the current situation, I believe that by the end of 2021 we may see another round of growth in cryptocurrency prices, and only then a bear market may begin.
I have always seen that during a bear run negative news will dominate and during a bull run there will be always positivity around Bitcoins or cryptos in general.

When the bull run was going on, which was just months ago, everyone was talking about how times are changing and how cryptocurrencies will dominate online payments now and some even said the banking sector will suffocate and collapse.

Now a few months later, the price drops and everyone has a reason to target and bash cryptocurrencies. Some will say that consumes a lot of energy for mining while others will give the reference of hackers using the cryptocurrency but these guys never bring these topics up when the price is going higher and the market is bullish.
This is a common occurence on a bull and bear market. People spread FUDS and FOMO all around internet to simply indirectly manipulate the market and addition to that is the big influencers that is starting the FUD and FOMO which creates a big effect to the market.

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June 27, 2021, 07:21:42 PM
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Manipulation in the cryptocurrency space is common. Any news can have an impact on the price component of a particular coin. Anyone begins to think and draw conclusions from various statements in social networks. Especially if the news comes from people well-known in this field, the so-called experts.
And these so called experts are often part of the whale groups who will do anything to bring a market down and then invest in it. Once they have invested enough at a cheaper price, they will then activate another group of promoters who will talk good about certain coins and pump the value up.

As investors, we must be 100% sure about what we are investing in and what is the future value of that asset. People investing in shit coins or meme coins are never going to profit unless they are lucky because whales will manipulate the market and traders will be forced to either hold shit coins or just dump them at a cheaper price which is what the whales want.

If you invest in a coin you believe has some value for the future, you won't have much difficulty in holding it tight during rough times when people are talking foul about it.

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The cryptocurrency market, in reality, is one of the most manipulative! Objectively, you will not find the real reasons for the mega-growth or mega-fall of cryptocurrencies, there will only be a reaction to manipulation, but there will be no connection with real independent events. Therefore, you should not be upset about a drawdown if you did not manage to fix your crypto assets in stable values, a period will pass and there will be an increase again... And again a fall. And so it will be, except for the case of recognition of the crypt as a currency and / or its replacement asset
Yeah crypto market is rather unregulated, quite different compared to other market, even other commodity market usually getting intervened by the government if things got out of control but that's also the beauty of crypto
anything could happen whether it's good or bad, so always be prepared for worst case scenario, also if there's concentrated capital or coin posession, there'll also be a manipulation, it's just how it is.
Maybe  if someone wants manipulation free market, they should wait CBDC but that's also actually gonna be manipulated by the government as well.

I'll start with the final part of the answer. CBDC, whether you like it or not, is a CENTRALIZED system that will use technologies / solutions from the world of "free blockchain" to some extent. In fact, it will be a more technologically advanced non-cash currency, of which there is already a lot, but the technology is still from the 60s of the last century. CBDC will not give recognition to independent cryptocurrencies and will not change their positioning in the market.
Now about the manipulation of the state. I agree - the state, for the sake of its interests, will "play" with its currency. BUT, I know for sure that the state will not swing x20 waves and then fall in the same x20, and so on a regular basis. At least because it is not profitable, secondly, which central bank and government will quickly send to "retire"

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No, I Don't think crypto is manipulation free. And It's Normal to be manipulated because if You're whale than you also try to manipulate the market and make more money
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