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February 04, 2022, 07:34:08 AM
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Hi, I love slots and I play slots whenever I have a chance to but as much as I love playing slots I don't really earn much in them. Nostly the good games are not available in my region and it really sucks. Can someone explain why they don't give access to games with great payout to people from other regions? I find it quite unfair.

That's how things go. Some software providers are not available in some regions. For example, if you move to Down Under, you will not be able to play NetEnt's or Microgaming's slots there. That's their policy, they don't want to break local laws. You can use VPN by the way but that's a risky behavior as the casino may ask you to verify your account and the rest, you know, what will happen in this case.
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February 04, 2022, 01:00:35 PM
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I really think not being able to access Pragmatic Slots is to people's benefit these days. I have played Pragmatic Slots for years now and I can tell you with real honesty that my success ratio with these Slots, compared to previous years has significantly dropped.

I also look at the chat response on most of the casinos where I play and all of the people are complaining about Pragmatic Slots that are not paying as it used to. I do not see a reduction in the RTP as reported by the casinos where I play, but something has definitely changed.

I have changed my "Seed" several times, to see if it is the Seed... but it is still very bad.  Roll Eyes  Anyone noticed this... ?

How do you measure your success ratio and compares it to your previous year result. Its very hard to prove it unless you will do a test with same amount in regular basis. Slot provider usually didn't change there RTP declaration despite they change something on the slot software. For me slot in general has same RTP despite the different variation on the game because the result is still random base on the software randomizer.

But I agree with you that pragmatic slots has a lot of complains especially if you will browse on other gambling forums. But we can assure that they are rigging there software since license provider are still giving them permit to operate freely despite many concerns.

Pragmatic slots are the same for me, I haven't notices any changes to them. This is an RNG-based game, meaning you can win or you can lose randomly. And even if you had a losing streak, this doesn't mean things will change and you will have the next bet winning.
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February 05, 2022, 09:22:29 AM
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The availability of some gambling games in a region depends on the government's regulation. You might find it unfair but the government is implementing their rules based on the type of games. However, there are still other entertaining games that you could enjoy if that type of slot isn't available in your place. Try to look for alternatives for you to earn and enjoy.

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February 05, 2022, 03:54:55 PM
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Every casino there is has stipulated in their ToS about the countries that can and cannot be allowed to access their websites. It doesn’t really seem to be unfair because this is in compliance with the laws and regulations of those regions, and is being known publicly to the players in the first place. In the matter of VPN usage, there may have been many times that players was able to use such and didn’t encounter problems but it is better to contact the casino representatives to make sure it is safe and permitted.

I think gambling websites that disallow access from other countries are the regulated ones where their countries prohibit transactions coming outside from their country. While this is totally understandable on their part, others may circumvent this restriction by using VPNs. Unfortunately, using VPNs may be restricted depending on the TOS of such online gambling website. That is why, you run the risk of losing access to your account (and your funds) when you violate any of the TOS stated.

Again if it is possible, avoid gambling websites that are regulated as their are tons of restrictions on their end that might hamper your overall experience.

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February 05, 2022, 07:13:35 PM
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I have changed my "Seed" several times, to see if it is the Seed... but it is still very bad.  Roll Eyes  Anyone noticed this... ?
Hm? Changing "seed" on pragmatic slots? To be honest it's the first time I heard such a thing, how did you do that? I had quite some time playing slots from pragmatic but never did or saw such an option to do that. I'm aware there are a few provably fair slots (from the third party) out there, meanwhile the number is really tiny as far I know.
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February 05, 2022, 07:37:04 PM
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I have changed my "Seed" several times, to see if it is the Seed... but it is still very bad.  Roll Eyes  Anyone noticed this... ?
Hm? Changing "seed" on pragmatic slots? To be honest it's the first time I heard such a thing, how did you do that? I had quite some time playing slots from pragmatic but never did or saw such an option to do that. I'm aware there are a few provably fair slots (from the third party) out there, meanwhile the number is really tiny as far I know.
^ No one can change the seed and I think it is hard for them to monitor the site for making any fraud on it.
However not unless someone will modify this but as far as I know this is licensed which is as a game developer, I don't know how either to work the provably fair but I think it was built on the pragmatic system. Let us try later.
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February 05, 2022, 11:05:27 PM
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I have same problem with Pragramtic, just use VPN in ltc casino
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February 06, 2022, 06:53:31 PM
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The availability of some gambling games in a region depends on the government's regulation. You might find it unfair but the government is implementing their rules based on the type of games. However, there are still other entertaining games that you could enjoy if that type of slot isn't available in your place. Try to look for alternatives for you to earn and enjoy.
From what I see, there are actually several references if they really want to be allowed to circulate in a region or a country. The problem is that they are willing or not in applying for a license to the local government because sometimes the ban on permits will not be separated from how they ask for permission and pay for a license to be there.
Maybe they also see that in a certain area or region they are less interested and because this is a business of course they will think about the ratio of income and expenses there.

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February 06, 2022, 07:09:29 PM
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I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

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February 06, 2022, 07:20:59 PM
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I have same problem with Pragramtic, just use VPN in ltc casino

As I said, and some others, it's the only way! I don't think we can come to the bottom of this, at least not without some representatives from Pragmatic, or some of us can send them a message (there is a contact on their official page!)... I couldn't find any list of banned countries on their site, "Play Ltd is licensed and regulated by the Malta Gaming Authority" so maybe that's the reason why some of the countries are banned, it's because of their license! Again, something that's out of our reach, so the only way for some of us is to use VPN in casinos that tolerate that!

I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

In my experience, that will never happen! I never saw anything official from any crypto casino representative about using VPN! I asked some of them personally, I saw others asking... so I guess you can try to ask for yourself and you will see what I mean!

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February 06, 2022, 07:55:35 PM
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I have same problem with Pragramtic, just use VPN in ltc casino

As I said, and some others, it's the only way! I don't think we can come to the bottom of this, at least not without some representatives from Pragmatic, or some of us can send them a message (there is a contact on their official page!)... I couldn't find any list of banned countries on their site, "Play Ltd is licensed and regulated by the Malta Gaming Authority" so maybe that's the reason why some of the countries are banned, it's because of their license! Again, something that's out of our reach, so the only way for some of us is to use VPN in casinos that tolerate that!

I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

In my experience, that will never happen! I never saw anything official from any crypto casino representative about using VPN! I asked some of them personally, I saw others asking... so I guess you can try to ask for yourself and you will see what I mean!

Well, got some info & confirmation that it's okey at some reputable brands representatives, though never seen it officially or publicly stated.

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February 06, 2022, 08:03:54 PM
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I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

In my experience, that will never happen! I never saw anything official from any crypto casino representative about using VPN! I asked some of them personally, I saw others asking... so I guess you can try to ask for yourself and you will see what I mean!

I don't know if live chat support can answer (as long as it's not officially listed in Terms and Conditions) on whether or not you can use a VPN. However, here on Bitcointalk I saw people representing casinos officially wrote that it is possible to use a VPN in their casinos. I have seen this situation several times.

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February 06, 2022, 11:39:49 PM
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All these casino providers are subject to certain restrictions. there are more providers that can block you as a country. There is nothing a gambling site can do about that, the provider itself is behind it and that process is automatic, I think. There are plenty of other providers if pragmatically doesn't work. Don't know where you have the most high limits or which provider is the most wanted.

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February 06, 2022, 11:58:18 PM
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I don't know if live chat support can answer (as long as it's not officially listed in Terms and Conditions) on whether or not you can use a VPN. However, here on Bitcointalk I saw people representing casinos officially wrote that it is possible to use a VPN in their casinos. I have seen this situation several times.

They can answer it as there's already a prepared response for it. Copy-paste indeed as what it supposed to be.

The response will be the same and that's because of "restriction on the region".

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February 07, 2022, 07:12:42 AM
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I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

Its been suggested several times and I'm sure many users aware about this situation. Not all casinos allow the use of VPN, some can be very strict but some others are friendly enough. So yeah, getting information from the casino is the wiser to do if we are going to use VPN. Anyway, pragmatic is one of the most friendly provider with less restriction compared to other providers and lucky me I can play it without VPN but I like to use VPN for my gambling activity so anytime I'm interested in a new casino, I'll always ask about their terms about VPN.

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February 07, 2022, 02:28:41 PM
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I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

Good point and advice. I see you are a skilled one:) yes, using VPN is on your own, but it is always useful to ask the team, if they don't have this point in their T&Cs.
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February 07, 2022, 04:28:32 PM
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For those VPN lovers, I advise you guys don't play with big money, since even if you get an epic win, there is still some possibility they will deny your withdrawal. Nowadays, VPN is pretty much necessary, but that's the reality of the 3rd party slots, we cannot access some from our country. There's no "legal" workaround about that, so pick another provider if you want to be sure there will be no problem in the future. The good thing is, slots games are pretty much similar, so you will have the alternative title from different provider.
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February 07, 2022, 06:32:03 PM
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For those VPN lovers, I advise you guys don't play with big money, since even if you get an epic win, there is still some possibility they will deny your withdrawal. Nowadays, VPN is pretty much necessary, but that's the reality of the 3rd party slots, we cannot access some from our country. There's no "legal" workaround about that, so pick another provider if you want to be sure there will be no problem in the future. The good thing is, slots games are pretty much similar, so you will have the alternative title from different provider.

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February 07, 2022, 08:50:41 PM
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I see here many comments in regards to using VPN.

Just an advice, if you are planning to use VPN to play PP games, contact online casino support and ask them if that would be okey (take a screenshot), since casino can easily decline your possible cash-out for breaching Terms & Conditions.

Good point and advice. I see you are a skilled one:) yes, using VPN is on your own, but it is always useful to ask the team, if they don't have this point in their T&Cs.

Well, you know how they say...."Better safe, than sorry...." ;-)

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February 07, 2022, 08:57:21 PM
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For those VPN lovers, I advise you guys don't play with big money, since even if you get an epic win, there is still some possibility they will deny your withdrawal. Nowadays, VPN is pretty much necessary, but that's the reality of the 3rd party slots, we cannot access some from our country. There's no "legal" workaround about that, so pick another provider if you want to be sure there will be no problem in the future. The good thing is, slots games are pretty much similar, so you will have the alternative title from different provider.


If a casino accepts the use of a VPN, why should it bother them if someone use it? If anyone is in doubt, anytime can just ask support and it is best to take a screenshot of the conversation in which he will receive a confirmation. If the casino is in doubt they can do KYC verification and there should be no problem to withdraw winnings.
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