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June 30, 2021, 10:24:58 PM
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Those who have a lot of money can certainly do anything as well as in crypto, whales freely manipulate the market and I see some whales are also very fond of fudding

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June 30, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
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Yeah, they can somewhat manipulate the market and have some influence. They can do it directly and indirectly. You will sometimes see the market crashes a little as soon as a whale moves his coins. When he moves it to an exchange, the market dips more. They can also manipulate by dumping their coins, causing the price to fall and then buy again, causing the price to rise. Whatever they do, the affect of the manipulation is short lived. As more people starts to invest in bitcoin, we won't be seeing such manipulation in the future.

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June 30, 2021, 10:32:57 PM
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Yes they do, one person can have unlimited amount of bitcoin so a whale has no reasons to hold all of his bitcoins into a single wallet.

Bitcoin used to be manipulated heavily much much less now.  The volume is just too much for one person or even one group at this point to move the needle.  Can they, yes.  Do they probably not now.  Now for alts oh completely.  Pretty much everything is still manipulated for low caps.  They are trading toys for people.
Even now you can witness few hundred thousands of bitcoins are moved in one or two transactions which leads to the bullish or bearish trend later but I agree that manipulation power is less now compared to the past and at some point there will be no whales since they are keep diluting their funds every time when they try to manipulate the market.

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June 30, 2021, 10:45:32 PM
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Yes, whales are manipulating the market, you could see it when Elon was tweeting. He bought, tweeted about it, price rose, he sold, tweeted about it, price fell, he probably bought more or just did it for fun because he had already made money on that move so there was no risk.

OP's address list doesn't say anything about manipulation. Big addresses are usually owned by exchanges.
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June 30, 2021, 10:49:28 PM
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Huge investors or early adaptors of crypto especially Bitcoin drives the whole market. People gets alarmed when hugr funds are transferred from or to a cold wallet to an exchange.People watch for news and update to see how the market will go. Some of this news are fabricated to shake thw market. Whales always win over small investors by letting them sell for losses when they panic during the crash.  They create news and cause panic for their own convenience.
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June 30, 2021, 10:50:39 PM
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We all know that this market has always been, the price and control of it from the whales is undeniable. Maybe with the current cap we can be happy that it is a lot different from before, but to be honest it is still very small compared to other markets.

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June 30, 2021, 11:18:27 PM
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In fact, yes they do. And there are many whales in the crypto market and each of them may have different preferences to manipulate the market. ANd see who wins the manipulation. Combined with supported FUD spreading, the manipulation may be also easier. Moreover, in some cases, the whales may have related to the market exchanges so that they can really give influence to the market price and cap.
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July 01, 2021, 01:03:17 AM
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Investors called whales are not only present in the cryptocurrency market. It is available on all known exchange platforms. As for your question, yes, investors who hold a large amount of investment can manipulate the market as they wish. In fact, not only whales, but even well-known and phenomenal people can manipulate it. The best example of this is Elon Musk, who manipulated the market as he wanted, using both the power of his money and his fame. In short, those who have money can do whatever they want.
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July 01, 2021, 01:48:45 AM
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I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg

The market cannot be manipulated , this only comes to reality once the people react from the manipulating strategy of the whales.

Example they sold all their coin that will start the value to drop badly , if we panicked and sell our coins also then that will be the domino effect and the whales successfully manipulated the market.

But if we will not react and just let them sell their coin  then we are safe from their target and surely they will buy back again for the reason of failure .

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July 01, 2021, 01:57:28 AM
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Wallets with just a few BTC in them are probably owned by a single person who is also trying to accumulate from the market. If you are a whale too I guess it would make sense for you to try making more money out of your money.

I'm wondering if they would also be doing it to the futures market like manipulating the price to go down because they bet the price to dip.

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July 01, 2021, 02:28:44 AM
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Those are just records of proportions of Bitcoin and a summary of how many people are holding it.
We can't tell if those are whales or just holders who had been keeping their coins for a long time up until now.

But about your question, yes, whales do manipulate the market and it may not be with bitcoin but altcoins.
A good example is Elon Musk trying to manipulate Dogecoin. You may want to avoid those kinds as it gives higher risks if suddenly that bagholder decided to switch to something better to toy with.
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July 01, 2021, 03:41:33 AM
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the information provided is only related to the percentage and number of bitcoin holders. whales could have a large number of their bitcoins in multiple addresses. but we don't know if it's a bitcoin holder with an active address or an address that can't be accessed by the owner.

but indeed whales with large investment values can manipulate the crypto market. they use bitcoin as well as altcoins. we know how fundamental bitcoin is in the crypto market. even the slightest movement can affect the market, as well as the altcoin market.
now what often happens is that FOMO is created in the crypto market. the news on social media creates hype in the market. the whale has not played its part. if they are already playing the crypto market, it will be very easy to fall and get back up again.

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July 01, 2021, 03:51:34 AM
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The cryptocurrency affects all currencies in the market and investors suffer greatly as a result of market manipulation no one can accurately tell the difference in the price of coins for whales. Prices start to rise but over time they fall to avoid the effects of these whales you need to search the market and choose the right time.
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July 01, 2021, 05:57:48 AM
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.....and there it goes that other people will panic upon their trap set.
I can imagine that a lot of plummet in price of Bitcoin was purely whales trap and not just that Elon Musk crap that everybody believes that it caused the price to plummet. Roll Eyes
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July 01, 2021, 05:59:17 AM
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We all know that this market has always been, the price and control of it from the whales is undeniable. Maybe with the current cap we can be happy that it is a lot different from before, but to be honest it is still very small compared to other markets.
Most of whales are targeting the market by affecting it from retailers' psychology such as spreading fud and that could very well affect the market despite the ever growing market capitalization.
Moreover if they succesfully making people in state of fear, the panic seller could be a lot bigger since as you know, the recent bullrun has attracted many new comers and whether the market manipulation is rather small compared to other market
we don't know but the thing is, a lot of crypto market are unregulated ones. which can be good and bad.

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July 01, 2021, 06:41:21 AM
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I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg

The market cannot be manipulated , this only comes to reality once the people react from the manipulating strategy of the whales.

Example they sold all their coin that will start the value to drop badly , if we panicked and sell our coins also then that will be the domino effect and the whales successfully manipulated the market.

But if we will not react and just let them sell their coin  then we are safe from their target and surely they will buy back again for the reason of failure .

This is possible if all traders is an investors but the majority of traders in cryptocurrency are swing/day traders that's the price always volatile everytime some major news occur because they don't want to be trapped for a long time compared when they cut-loss or take profit already for a short period of time. Cryptomarket need a consistent organic huge volume to diminished volatility. The majority volume of exchange are from bot wash trading.

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July 01, 2021, 06:54:31 AM
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It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.

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July 01, 2021, 07:36:07 AM
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Rich people call the shots.

This is a fact, whether we want to accept it or not. As a rich person one can do whatever that pleases one with one's wealth. I don't frown at hodlers with massive stach disposing their coins as and when due. It's their right. If anyone feels that whales manipulate the market because they sell at a particular time, then that will be wrong. Except if the holdler does what Elon Musk does with his supportive or fudding tweets from time to time so he could get in cheap or sell off high, this one I find manipulative. Don't forget that the same way people hodl Bitcoin in large quantities is the same way most of us hodl certain altcoins too, only that these altcoins may not worth much ATM. They could become valuable in future and a lot of others who don't have them will begin to cry foul when we sell. There's nothing wrong as a trader if you want to sell off to buy back when there's indication that the token could crash or dump from technical analysis. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's whales' fault that the market dumps whenever they sell.

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July 01, 2021, 07:50:18 AM
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Yes they do, one person can have unlimited amount of bitcoin so a whale has no reasons to hold all of his bitcoins into a single wallet.
What is that possibility?  Decentralization is the promise of opening a circle of balance, although, something can happen when billions of dollars are minted into bitcoin, it has the potential to be on the verge of FUD and the data just shows up.  The proofs are modified and the phenomena distort the real values! Lol

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July 01, 2021, 07:59:17 AM
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Its not a new issue anymore, whales can manipulate the market by spreading FUD so they will buy for cheaper price.

They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.

Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
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