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July 22, 2021, 10:19:04 PM
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If she's lost $408 million I'm confident she won't have money to pay for expensive lawyers. She'll get a free lawyer funded by the state. If she supplies info on her team she's getting a reduced prison term but I'm sure she's not walking free without serving years in jail.

She would need very good lawyers to get away with no prison. Not only good lawyers, but outstandingly valuable information for the police such that they offer her a deal. Anyway, I can't imagine her walking straight into freedom very soon.

This just reminded me of Gerald Cotten from QuadrigaCX, the guy who went to India then allegedly died from some disease after 9 days and never returned. Just to let you guys know, there will soon be a documentary about it, just google:

$215,000,000 missing: Mysterious death of the CEO of Canada’s largest cryptocurrency firm explored in documentary

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July 22, 2021, 11:15:34 PM
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Quite possible that the ones found weren't all of the money she had kept from profiteering and fraudster. Many rich individuals who had a taste of money laundering would quite agree that it is never wise to put all your eggs in one basket, which goes for both investing and funnily enough money laundering too. Hopefully the money seized from this putrid excuse of a woman could be reinstated and returned to her victims in a way or another.
Cases like that can be bad publicity for Bitcoin, although it's unfair since it's a ponzi scheme (and thus a crime regardless of whether it's crypto-related), and it's not about Bitcoin at all, and not about compromising the reputation of any major altcoins either.
Also, while I think that some punishment is in order when scammers are caught, I think 90 years of prison is too tough... Why not focus on the financial part in these cases? Since they seized so much money, surely they could (although probably won't) return this money to victims. Plus, they could make her pay some big fines as well and limit access to finance-related work positions. I think such actions would be more useful to society than spending taxpayers' money and totally ruining one's life with a life sentence.
For me it could work both ways, signifying that no one is above the law, not even bitcoin owners could give some people who are skeptical about bitcoin's tough privacy and security a little bit of relief knowing that criminals and bitcoin thieves can still very well be caught with enough manpower and dedication from the appropriate sectors. Or like what you said it could also scare them from investing since their first impression of bitcoin was for criminals to launder their money into.



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July 23, 2021, 12:00:23 AM
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In the digital media I found no mention of the arrest of Ruja Ignatova 'Cryptoqueen'. Perhaps it is a rumor but remembering the criminal act of this woman and her organization was one more reason for wanting to kill bitcoin with her shameless ponzi scheme and she did not succeed now she is a fugitive and sooner or later she will have to respond to justice.

Sometimes I think that criminals have a mental lapse, do they really believe that they will succeed in their crimes? There is no perfect crime, greed always comes out at some point showing the clues that something is wrong.
From something bad that happens we always collect good things now we can know how to recognize a scam project.

The following article points out that Ruja Ignatova may own 230,000 bitcoins.

https://news.bitcoin.com/lawsuit-claims-onecoins-cryptoqueen-ruja-ignatova-holds-230000-bitcoin/

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July 23, 2021, 12:14:14 AM
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It was one of the biggest ponzi/fraudster act in the cryptospace. Once the news about her was a big talk in the community, because of the onecoin which is termed to grow above bitcoin. By the time myself searched for documentary about onecoin and got astonished to watch the way she motivate people to invest on onecoin. None believe she had a thought of scamming, when everyone realise it the investments were taken by her and few more.

After a long hearing news about her. It is good she's caught and this will be a lesson to such kind of person who are hidden in the cryptospace.
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July 23, 2021, 07:07:21 AM
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If she's lost $408 million I'm confident she won't have money to pay for expensive lawyers. She'll get a free lawyer funded by the state. If she supplies info on her team she's getting a reduced prison term but I'm sure she's not walking free without serving years in jail.
If the police have confiscated all her assets but why did the woman get paid expensive lawyers by the state to find out the truth, I'm sure the perpetrator will give up saying anything because he doesn't want to enjoy his own prison if onecoin is the biggest scammer community.

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July 24, 2021, 06:03:02 AM
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If she's lost $408 million I'm confident she won't have money to pay for expensive lawyers. She'll get a free lawyer funded by the state. If she supplies info on her team she's getting a reduced prison term but I'm sure she's not walking free without serving years in jail.

She would need very good lawyers to get away with no prison. Not only good lawyers, but outstandingly valuable information for the police such that they offer her a deal. Anyway, I can't imagine her walking straight into freedom very soon.

This just reminded me of Gerald Cotten from QuadrigaCX, the guy who went to India then allegedly died from some disease after 9 days and never returned. Just to let you guys know, there will soon be a documentary about it, just google:

$215,000,000 missing: Mysterious death of the CEO of Canada’s largest cryptocurrency firm explored in documentary

Well, it is not unusual that in such high profile cases world class lawyers show up and assume your case for a cut in case there should be a chance for success. As crypto is a hot topic with a lot of media attention and almost half a billion is at risk, who knows maybe she is lucky. Or maybe someone else is willing to fund her lawyers. It definitely depends on her quality as a potential whistle blower. If she has nothing to defend herself, there won't be much interest in her case.

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July 24, 2021, 11:50:16 AM
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it.is not a small act.of fraud.this is.very detrimental.to many people with such.a large number, what the British police.did was.very appropriate to take action.against criminals.who committed.fraud, and we all hope that these.criminals can.be punished.with a long time, according.to the regulations.in the country, because this.is very detrimental.to other people by deceiving.people, we can.only hope that this does not happen in.this forum forever
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July 24, 2021, 12:03:48 PM
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Bitcoin's being linked with crime, the bad publicity's not helping adoption of cryptocurrencies because people get scared.

The police didn't make more announcements about the name of the woman. We know they've seized $408 million but it might be she's got more secrets to give. This woman probably isn't Ruja Ignatova, she'll face up to 90 years jail in US jail if she get caught but she'll make a deal with prosecutors for reducing her term. 

Cases like that can be bad publicity for Bitcoin, although it's unfair since it's a ponzi scheme (and thus a crime regardless of whether it's crypto-related), and it's not about Bitcoin at all, and not about compromising the reputation of any major altcoins either.
Also, while I think that some punishment is in order when scammers are caught, I think 90 years of prison is too tough... Why not focus on the financial part in these cases? Since they seized so much money, surely they could (although probably won't) return this money to victims. Plus, they could make her pay some big fines as well and limit access to finance-related work positions. I think such actions would be more useful to society than spending taxpayers' money and totally ruining one's life with a life sentence.

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July 24, 2021, 12:08:43 PM
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I don't think that it's "Crypto Queen" or Ruja Ignatova because if it is then probably we would be hearing of the news because she is on FBI's most wanted for fraud. Also, that amount isn't that a lot compared to how much she have stolen during the One Coin arc in her story. Maybe they didn't named the woman for protection and to prevent interruption to police procedure.
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July 24, 2021, 12:50:08 PM
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That's what I'm thinking because Ignatova's 41 but the woman arrested by police is 39 it means there's a discrepancy. If it's her it would've been leaked to newspapers and social media so it isn't her.

I don't think that it's "Crypto Queen" or Ruja Ignatova because if it is then probably we would be hearing of the news because she is on FBI's most wanted for fraud. Also, that amount isn't that a lot compared to how much she have stolen during the One Coin arc in her story. Maybe they didn't named the woman for protection and to prevent interruption to police procedure.

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