It's F'n happening ----- Polk VS. Negreanu HUNL Grudge Match

[tokeweed]

Watch this.

More Charts Aren’t Better:  GTO Musings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my-HidIXbmU

I have no idea why Doug would expose himself like that.  I feel like he’s leveling everybody and he’s really trying to expose the state of online poker as it actually is today:  That it’s not poker anymore.  The spirit of the game is dead.

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[Steamtyme]

It's a good watch. I've been seeing and reading things like this quite a bit, especially in regards to Cash Games. People essentially call it solved, mainly because there are less variables - no antes and for example generally 100BB deep.

I don't know how close MTT's are getting but I remember when I first found out people use HUD's and will make certain calls in a spot just based on your stats. It blew my mind.  It's really no different than anything else where there is an opportunity to make someone else's money yours. Some people will do anything to win where others have a line somewhere. Personally I have ranges for pre-flop action, I don't use them to play only to study and compare how well I'm sticking to my range. I will review a spot after the hand has played if I was completely lost, but that's about as close to RTA as I get.

Maybe the difference is I love to play. I also really enjoy challenging myself to be better, without aides.

It will be interesting to see what the future of online Poker brings. For whatever reason I assumed they were only going to have their preflop ranges simply displayed as a grid format. I had no idea it was essentially a solved sim for preflop. This is where live poker will always be much more exciting as an exhibition. I'm hoping this year will be my chance to play my first live tournament.

[arallmuus]

I have no idea why Doug would expose himself like that.

Mind if you do the tldr version?

I dont catch most of it. All I've seen on the video was that instead of using multiple preflop chart like Dneg, he is only using one provided by his team . Lots of people have been using this and most of them are winning players in poker. If you play regularly and encounter lots of similar spot , you can basically execute the same action shown on those charts without even looking at it anymore

Personally I have ranges for pre-flop action, I don't use them to play only to study and compare how well I'm sticking to my range. I will review a spot after the hand has played if I was completely lost, but that's about as close to RTA as I get.

Isnt it necessary to have pre flop ranges on certain position? Thats what differ you from all those recreational players that only open hands based on " I think this is a good hand ". Of course this only applies to winning players and by winning players , I refer it to those that make their livings from poker by basically getting X amount each month instead of 'gambling' with it

[tokeweed]

For you poker fans out there.  Ivey vs Antonius HU battle at WPT.  I think Joe Ingram is going to be on the mic.  So it should he good.  Enjoy!  

Ivey vs Antonius WPT Heads Up Championship Finals.  Live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daR3q3KKQ0o

[Steamtyme]

I'm really loving Doug's retirment so far. He can't help himself it seems. About a month ago, he showed up and was playing at one of the Texas Card houses, I thin khe wound up on stream. Then I saw he registered this, and streamed the live draw for matchups. I'm gonna go back and skim through some of whatever is online next set of nighshifts.

I haven't looked into it, but don't remember many tournaments like this in the past. Seems like HUNL is in a bit of a revival with all the challenges that have been going down the last year or so.

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Sorry totally missed this.

[tokeweed]

^  Be careful applying those moves they do at high stakes in your own play at the softer micro - low stakes games.  The mind set at the high level is different from low level games so it’s mostly better to nit up and stick with the basics at lower stakes.

And most of the time, those guys at high stakes poker usually have some play history vs each other.  So those ‘moves’ are really based off the reads they already have vs their opponents.

Anyway, dropped by to ask if anybody followed Landon Tice vs Bill Perkins HU challenge..?

[Steamtyme]

^  Be careful applying those moves they do at high stakes in your own play at the softer micro - low stakes games.  The mind set at the high level is different from low level games so it’s mostly better to nit up and stick with the basics at lower stakes.

Never have I read a more truthful statement on the internet. It's funny uping the strategy game when your bankroll is still micros/low because following it to a T will leave you a losing player. Mainly people don't know when they are supposed to fold, leads to them overcalling and that will always be -ev. It doesn't make them a better player or a winning player but it will hit you with more suckouts.

And most of the time, those guys at high stakes poker usually have some play history vs each other.  So those ‘moves’ are really based off the reads they already have vs their opponents.

Anyway, dropped by to ask if anybody followed Landon Tice vs Bill Perkins HU challenge..?

Blinked and it was over. I caught the first 2 sessions on and off at work I believe. I recall Landon, being a bit liberal with his A high bluffcatch for stacks. I wasn't that hyped for the match, I think Landon is a neat character and have seen him popping up in a bunch of vlogs and appearances, but it all seemed really rushed for him to be taking on a HU challenge. I don't know his overall strategy, but he started as Cash, and has been playing a ton of tournaments so maybe he just didn't prepare enough and was overconfident.

I don't know much about the rest but I'm guessing he figured overall it was cheaper to quit now than let it run it's course and not beat the handicap he gave.

[tokeweed]

^  The thing is, when you’re playing low stakes, just play fundamentally solid ABC poker and you’ll win.  Just grind and avoid fancy play syndrome.  But if you’re playing for sh*ts and gigs, then sure..  You go ahead and do the fancy stuff.  Lol. 

Doug Polk had an interview with a couple of people, one from Landon Tice’s team talking about the challenge.  For Doug, he thinks Tice pulled out too early.

[Steamtyme]

^  The thing is, when you’re playing low stakes, just play fundamentally solid ABC poker and you’ll win.  Just grind and avoid fancy play syndrome.  But if you’re playing for sh*ts and gigs, then sure..  You go ahead and do the fancy stuff.  Lol. 
Doug Polk had an interview with a couple of people, one from Landon Tice’s team talking about the challenge.  For Doug, he thinks Tice pulled out too early.

Couldn't agree more. I laugh as I play a lot on GGnetwork lately. They give you a decent player profile, 3 or 4 hud stats, and an overall winnings on GG. I always make sure now to double chek the earnings(not the best factor)because under 750 total I dial back all bluffs. I used to get to the river and make a reasonable bluff, only to have been called down 2 or 3 streets with floped 3rd pair or something crazy. Same table will have a guy who's won 200$ and people 200K plus in winnings, wide range of experiences. Love it though because that bit of info everyone gets has helped me adjust massively.

I haven't seen the entire podcast yet. I think it was early to pullout, maybe take a few weeks off and regroup then go at it and at least get over the halfway mark.

I actually have been waiting for the Hellmuth prop bet to get started, where he has to try and be profitable in 25K touneys. Pretty sure it was accepted between him and Dnegs so that will be fun to track.