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August 14, 2021, 07:27:43 AM
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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.

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August 14, 2021, 08:35:57 AM
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In a person subject to gambling addiction, it is as if a demon and an angel are fighting all the time.  Well, the demon or Satan says: "play, play more, more ...", the angel says: "change your mind, stop ... You will lose everything ... You will regret ..".  And what should such a person do if such a struggle is going on in his brain all the time.  So after all it is quite possible to go crazy.  Here, of course, first of all, it all depends on the willpower to say "no" to Satan!  Unfortunately, not everyone has such willpower.  And then the person turns into a gambling addict and he should already be treated, because this is already a mental illness.  In some countries (for example in the UK) there are even rehabilitation centers for such patients.

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August 14, 2021, 11:41:37 AM
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manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.
This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.
Easier said than done. That is what I can say with that "manage your gambling time and funds".

That is a good attitude indeed but it is often not used by most of the gamblers because of the fact that they can't control themselves especially when they are winning. Winning and losing can change your gambling habits depending on the situation. One day you might win and because of that you might become greedy and will gamble more or on the other hand, one day you might lose and because you can't control yourself you will do anything just to recover your losses.

There is nothing wrong with borrowing money with your relatives as long as you know how to pay it. What's wrong is that you are borrowing huge amounts of money and yet you can't pay it.

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August 14, 2021, 12:33:53 PM
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Easier said than done. That is what I can say with that "manage your gambling time and funds".
This is the most difficult problem of gambling addicts. 
They are told many times by their parents or relatives - hey!  let's finish your games, stop spending family money ... "And such a person cannot cope with himself and stop playing. But his relatives simply do not understand that it is almost impossible for him to quit playing, because relatives are often not so strong  addicted to gambling and think it's easy. Such situations often become a source of family conflicts and can even lead to tragic consequences. Sometimes the efforts of relatives to make the gambler get distracted - go in for sports, read books, finally watch movies, etc., do not help at all.  I must say that being distracted from the game, the gambler does not feel well, but only waits for the film to end in order to run back to the game table.
Nobody really knows how to humanely solve this problem.

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August 14, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
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manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.
This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.


That’s more difficult than it sounds  Cheesy
 
That’s why I’d suggest people not do gambling “on a daily basis” at all. When you do something daily it becomes a habit, and habits are hard to let go of (paradoxically, even harder for better educated and disciplined people, that’s why such people are also in the risk group, not only reckless, as many believe). And habits grow into addiction.

The best option here is prevention. I don’t think anyone should gamble daily, or schedule it, e.g. once every 3 days. Just do it whenever you feel like it, sometimes daily, sometimes a week-long break. In such a case, the probability of developing an addiction is significantly reduced.

I strongly agree with you.

The best option is prevention, because gambling is much dangerous than it looks. Others says it's fun but it's not, once you bit the bait, there's only high chance of getting addicted rather than quitting instantly after you feel agitated losing your money. That's why it's better not to test your curiosity towards gambling because it might you to a rabbit hole where you won't be able to get out because of your addiction.
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August 14, 2021, 04:10:21 PM
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Exactly.
Not many gamblers are aware of this.
much only concerned about what and how much they will earn probably.
But once again, this is still "probably", which means that he may lose and also may win.
That is why it is better to make ourselves manage with that limitation, both for the funds and also emotions.

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.
This may be because of gambling addiction. Once people are in this situation, they will not be aware that they are all in too much or even excessing money to gambling

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August 14, 2021, 04:36:09 PM
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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.
This were everything starts, some didn't know it yet unless their love one's already told them about it or when their property or relationship already been broke. Only few wil realize the addiction not until they will find another activities to keep them away on it. If there will be a sort of people who really takes seriously managing their time and money then starting gambling will never have this bad interpretation.

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August 14, 2021, 04:53:23 PM
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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.

Everything that cost you so much can be also called addiction. What I mean with so much are paying attention to the things that you supposed to not doing that thing for such a long hours like gambling because I do think that we should still have a self control and limitation in everything that we do especially in a thing that we were going to spend our time, second of course the amount of money that you spent. Gambling has a purpose but it depends on the person perspective about it, some may take it as an entertainment and some take it a serious thing, so yeah anything like excess is a gambling.
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August 14, 2021, 05:00:10 PM
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That’s more difficult than it sounds  Cheesy
Sure. But not impossible, buddy.
What he said is correct, even it is difficult to do.

That’s why I’d suggest people not do gambling “on a daily basis” at all.
You can suggest people, but people have their own choices. A few people may play gambling daily, I have a friend that mostly plays gambling every day. You can think it is a rare case, in fact it is real.

The best option here is prevention. I don’t think anyone should gamble daily, or schedule it, e.g. once every 3 days.
Each gambler has their own style of gambling. A few people gamble daily, some play weekly, and others may play without a schedule. So, the time to spend for each gambler may be varied or different. I think there is no problem with this matter. You can choose which one suits you.


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August 14, 2021, 05:03:02 PM
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Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

Anything like excess gambling?

You should know your limitation, and you should know how to control your gambling, if we're enjoying what we are doing we tend to forget what our limitations, if we don't know our limitations then we are gambling excessively, this is risky gamblers should know what is excess to them and when to stop, I'm lucky that I know my limitation and when to stop.
What exactly is your limitation? Is it a specific amount you are ready to loose a % of cour net-income or an other parameter? In my opinion most gamblers are lost here, because they cant be so strict.
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August 14, 2021, 05:47:28 PM
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What exactly is your limitation? Is it a specific amount you are ready to loose a % of cour net-income or an other parameter? In my opinion most gamblers are lost here, because they cant be so strict.
The imitation is when you don't have money left to gamble  Grin. I did gamble some time but I have limited the amount of money to gamble since I don't have lots of money so yeah maybe that's what desmong is trying to say. A percentage of the amount of money that a gambler have and that's all. I have tried doing this where for example, I have $2000 then I'll take 50% for safe keeping and the other 50% will be split into two which the 25% is for gambling and other 25% is for pocket money but this is for those who are not a gambling addict like me. I don't know for anyone though anyone could also do what I did.
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August 14, 2021, 06:16:49 PM
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What exactly is your limitation? Is it a specific amount you are ready to loose a % of cour net-income or an other parameter? In my opinion most gamblers are lost here, because they cant be so strict.
The imitation is when you don't have money left to gamble  Grin. I did gamble some time but I have limited the amount of money to gamble since I don't have lots of money so yeah maybe that's what desmong is trying to say. A percentage of the amount of money that a gambler have and that's all. I have tried doing this where for example, I have $2000 then I'll take 50% for safe keeping and the other 50% will be split into two which the 25% is for gambling and other 25% is for pocket money but this is for those who are not a gambling addict like me. I don't know for anyone though anyone could also do what I did.
To set a fixed percentage of your income for gambling is the most correct strategy to not lose control over your monthly budget. Of course for gambling addicted individuals it's not an easy thing to do, so in these cases I think they could ask for the support of a trusted family member to hold their income while they aren't able to manage it efficiently yet. This way their money will be safe and they don't risk going bankrupt.

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August 14, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
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To set a fixed percentage of your income for gambling is the most correct strategy to not lose control over your monthly budget. Of course for gambling addicted individuals it's not an easy thing to do, so in these cases I think they could ask for the support of a trusted family member to hold their income while they aren't able to manage it efficiently yet. This way their money will be safe and they don't risk going bankrupt.
This is what I will do if ever I become a gambling addict which if you ask me if ever it will happen then my answer is no. Even though I gambled but it doesn't make a gambling addict and I can control myself when gambling. Asking for support from family is quite effective to let your family manage your money when you can managed it efficiently. I remembered replying to a thread where I said that doing this kind of way to manage your fund and at the same time, you can only gamble the money you have and the rest is manage by your trusted family member.
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August 14, 2021, 08:16:28 PM
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To set a fixed percentage of your income for gambling is the most correct strategy to not lose control over your monthly budget. Of course for gambling addicted individuals it's not an easy thing to do, so in these cases I think they could ask for the support of a trusted family member to hold their income while they aren't able to manage it efficiently yet. This way their money will be safe and they don't risk going bankrupt.
This is what I will do if ever I become a gambling addict which if you ask me if ever it will happen then my answer is no. Even though I gambled but it doesn't make a gambling addict and I can control myself when gambling. Asking for support from family is quite effective to let your family manage your money when you can managed it efficiently. I remembered replying to a thread where I said that doing this kind of way to manage your fund and at the same time, you can only gamble the money you have and the rest is manage by your trusted family member.
For me I don't trust my money to other people, I manage my own money as I believe I'm mature enough to do so. Yes, I gamble, I mean a lot and I made some mistakes in the past so it makes me more matured especially in keeping my discipline, I learned the hard way short, but anyone can learn without losing a lot of money but just by learning from the experience of other people. 

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August 14, 2021, 08:46:52 PM
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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.
Time limit is a good idea though its not easy to do especially if you’re in the middle of your excitement on casinos, you might not commit on the limit you have set up but still its not addiction yet. It you go beyond the budget, that is more alarming to me because it means you are spending a lot and because you are losing, you tend to withdraw from your funds and continue gambling, this is a bad situation for me that we should always avoid.
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To set a fixed percentage of your income for gambling is the most correct strategy to not lose control over your monthly budget. Of course for gambling addicted individuals it's not an easy thing to do, so in these cases I think they could ask for the support of a trusted family member to hold their income while they aren't able to manage it efficiently yet. This way their money will be safe and they don't risk going bankrupt.
This is what I will do if ever I become a gambling addict which if you ask me if ever it will happen then my answer is no. Even though I gambled but it doesn't make a gambling addict and I can control myself when gambling. Asking for support from family is quite effective to let your family manage your money when you can managed it efficiently. I remembered replying to a thread where I said that doing this kind of way to manage your fund and at the same time, you can only gamble the money you have and the rest is manage by your trusted family member.
For me I don't trust my money to other people, I manage my own money as I believe I'm mature enough to do so. Yes, I gamble, I mean a lot and I made some mistakes in the past so it makes me more matured especially in keeping my discipline, I learned the hard way short, but anyone can learn without losing a lot of money but just by learning from the experience of other people. 
Our experience will teach us a lot and this was the reason why we are able to manage to escape from getting addicted and somewhat correct all the mistakes we've done. But unfortunately, we can't sure that we no longer experience mistakes and losses again, this is a part of our life as it was probably that we commit mistakes again and again. But if we are in the stage of addiction, I don't know if we are still able to manage our funds carefully. I don't think so.

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August 14, 2021, 09:22:11 PM
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Our experience will teach us a lot and this was the reason why we are able to manage to escape from getting addicted and somewhat correct all the mistakes we've done. But unfortunately, we can't sure that we no longer experience mistakes and losses again, this is a part of our life as it was probably that we commit mistakes again and again. But if we are in the stage of addiction, I don't know if we are still able to manage our funds carefully. I don't think so.
If you are getting addicted to gambling then it would be impossible to manage your funds efficiently. Try to search about gambling addicts. Some are even selling their window glass just to have money and use it to gamble. Sell their motorbike just to have money and gambled it on a casino rather than using it for daily needs and other important stuff.
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Our experience will teach us a lot and this was the reason why we are able to manage to escape from getting addicted and somewhat correct all the mistakes we've done. But unfortunately, we can't sure that we no longer experience mistakes and losses again, this is a part of our life as it was probably that we commit mistakes again and again. But if we are in the stage of addiction, I don't know if we are still able to manage our funds carefully. I don't think so.
If you are getting addicted to gambling then it would be impossible to manage your funds efficiently. Try to search about gambling addicts. Some are even selling their window glass just to have money and use it to gamble. Sell their motorbike just to have money and gambled it on a casino rather than using it for daily needs and other important stuff.
Getting addicted is something that you cant detect it right away specially if you are the ones who are really playing constantly.You would only notice about your mistake when you dont already have money in your pocket.

This had been always the case and thats why you should really be mindful about addiction once you do step on gambling activity.You wouldnt know until its too late but somehow not all would really be that careless

and some are really that aware towards their actions which is a must thing for a certain person for him to avoid possible problems in the future.

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August 15, 2021, 02:53:41 AM
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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.
you cannot just evaluate a gambling addict because of this attitude because imagine those newly learning gambling in which they are enjoying , do they have idea on how to properly deal with it?
how to allocate time and also budgeting when playing ? nope they are not and besides this is another chance to learn in the future , not unless the the person who teaches them to gambling had already give them those ideas before even learning and that is another story to tell.

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August 15, 2021, 02:54:00 AM
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Our experience will teach us a lot and this was the reason why we are able to manage to escape from getting addicted and somewhat correct all the mistakes we've done. But unfortunately, we can't sure that we no longer experience mistakes and losses again, this is a part of our life as it was probably that we commit mistakes again and again. But if we are in the stage of addiction, I don't know if we are still able to manage our funds carefully. I don't think so.
If you are getting addicted to gambling then it would be impossible to manage your funds efficiently. Try to search about gambling addicts. Some are even selling their window glass just to have money and use it to gamble. Sell their motorbike just to have money and gambled it on a casino rather than using it for daily needs and other important stuff.
of course this has become one of the acute addictions.
but really no one is to blame when this happens because it comes back to the person who did it.
as long as they don't realize their mistake it will stay that way forever until their money runs out and there's nothing left.
but it would be a different story if the addict was aware. even if the money that has been spent cannot be taken back but at least they will try to change

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