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July 29, 2021, 01:20:41 PM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.

Plan on managing your time. You are not superhuman where you can take many activities at the same time.

Focus on a few things first. Trading is stressful and much more stressful if you will work on other stressful things.

Stay away from being stress. Help yourself to do that.
That is a useful suggestion. I think he can start to select which is important to do and if he still feels stress, he can take a break for a while from his routine and just enjoy his time without doing any necessary thing.

After he can calm down and reduce the stress, he can search for what he wants to do, whether trading or gambling. But we can suggest he not to gambling for a while instead focus on trading and learn more details in trading.

Doing something different from your routine can also solve your stress. I am sure he can found which thing can relieve his stress.



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July 29, 2021, 01:49:28 PM
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You should let go one of them otherwise you'll just be stressing yourself and putting your money and financial security in danger, especially if you trade and gamble out of frustration. I would suggest that you focus on just trading as gambling is basically a one-way street with no assurances that you'll hit the jackpot and make bank with it. In trading, you can always adjust your approach and put yourself in a position wherein you will be able to minimize the risk without sacrificing much of your profit.

Or just learn a skill, be a tradesman and make more money than you'll ever do with gambling and trading combined.
Totally agree with this one, and I suggest letting go of gambling more than trading or whatever makes you more money. I chose for you to let go of gambling because I feel like as a gambler, your only way out in the end is just losing money overtime. I can get behind with learning a new trade, it's a good thing to have different skills in this day and age given how fast pace and how picky the employers is, you have to have a lot of marketable skills.

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July 29, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.

You have to be exceptionally great in time management and analyzing, if you can't do that you are going to lose money and sleep because it requires great effort and concentration if you want to handle both, you will end up losing on both, it's better to pick only one and have a good sleep than master both but have a sleepless night.

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July 29, 2021, 02:55:53 PM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.
Well newbie's are actually doing it both at the same time gambling their money on crypto trading.
They are playing it without even knowing how to trade most of them are just listening to signal groups or just came because of the hype/someone they know who earns a lot in crypto or some famous personality.
My advice for you OP is take it easy try to focus on one thing and when you got it try to learn the other one.

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July 29, 2021, 03:58:13 PM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.

I would suggest creating two virtual subpersonalities - John and Tom. 

This is necessary because trade and gambling are fundamentally different types of human activity.  These two types of human activity should not be confused with each other. 

Let John (subpersonality) be an experienced trader.  Tom (subpersonality) is a player.  Allocate to each of these subpersonalities a certain time, respectively, for the game and for trading.  When you are John, you are not Tom.  When you are Tom, you are not John. 

Getting enough sleep is also important to stay alert and energized.  Let yourself sleep 8 hours a day. 

This will allow you to be a successful trader and a successful gambler at the same time.

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July 29, 2021, 04:14:21 PM
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You have to be exceptionally great in time management and analyzing, if you can't do that you are going to lose money and sleep because it requires great effort and concentration if you want to handle both, you will end up losing on both, it's better to pick only one and have a good sleep than master both but have a sleepless night.
Not that really exceptional, as long as you can manage your time and you know how to analyze than that should be enough. Why sleep is about to lose? you can trade at any time without any need of sacrificing your sleep. I agree that when you trade, you must have a good sleep but you don't have to go up to the point of having sleepless nights as you trade.  And if you're gambling, you can have those right time of doing it the same as having no need to sacrifice your sleep.

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July 29, 2021, 04:27:33 PM
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What kind of trading are you referring to? If it is day trading there is no difference if compared to gambling: they are the same thing. You can research whole days without sleeping that it won't guarantee you any profitability in the end, because luck is also needed besides knowledge regards the crypto assets or gambling games you are engaged on, since games' results are random and crypto fluctuations are speculative, not being possible to justify them with logical predictions most of times.

Just keep in mind these activities aren't so easy and profitable like some people make it sound on the internet and take a break sometimes. Don't rush into gambling and trading. Do it a little every day or every week and you will find out if it worths for you or not.

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July 29, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
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What kind of trading are you referring to? If it is day trading there is no difference if compared to gambling: they are the same thing. You can research whole days without sleeping that it won't guarantee you any profitability in the end, because luck is also needed besides knowledge regards the crypto assets or gambling games you are engaged on, since games' results are random and crypto fluctuations are speculative, not being possible to justify them with logical predictions most of times.

Just keep in mind these activities aren't so easy and profitable like some people make it sound on the internet and take a break sometimes. Don't rush into gambling and trading. Do it a little every day or every week and you will find out if it worths for you or not.

Many sleepless night and many mistakes that will take place if you are rushing into day trading, same with gambling without any luck after doing your research and assessment you still going to find yourself losing your trading positions.

Never ever to believe with social media influencers that trading or gambling is just an easy as it is.

Better to say that it an easy way to lose it all if you don't know how to limit yourself and you not fully aware of those possible risk that you are taking.
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July 29, 2021, 07:17:23 PM
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Of course we have more chance to earn in trading unlike in gambling that is more on luck. What I said is they have similarities, it means they're associated with risk thus a guaranteed profit is not certain and it depends on our strategy (if you trade).

On the other side if you cant manage your time to do both, then might as well focus on what you most prefer to do. Dont force yourself if its giving you a hard time because your health might put at risk.
Drawing comparisons between trading and gambling is quite funny.

Trading is meant for earning money by predicting the market movement based on news,etc.

Gambling is meant to spend the earned money by playing games which you like and at times winning which will keep you interested in gambling. If you only lose in gambling, you will be bored within a week.

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What kind of trading are you referring to? If it is day trading there is no difference if compared to gambling: they are the same thing. You can research whole days without sleeping that it won't guarantee you any profitability in the end, because luck is also needed besides knowledge regards the crypto assets or gambling games you are engaged on, since games' results are random and crypto fluctuations are speculative, not being possible to justify them with logical predictions most of times.

Just keep in mind these activities aren't so easy and profitable like some people make it sound on the internet and take a break sometimes. Don't rush into gambling and trading. Do it a little every day or every week and you will find out if it worths for you or not.

Many sleepless night and many mistakes that will take place if you are rushing into day trading, same with gambling without any luck after doing your research and assessment you still going to find yourself losing your trading positions.

Never ever to believe with social media influencers that trading or gambling is just an easy as it is.

Better to say that it an easy way to lose it all if you don't know how to limit yourself and you not fully aware of those possible risk that you are taking.
Yeah,it is some sort on needing some luck when dealing with unpredictable market but this isnt really like gambling where odds or chances on making profits is not really that worth of to make out some analysis.

We do increase the chance on having a profitable trade if we do know on what we are doing unlike when we are just playing gambling where it isnt really necessary to have this factor.

Dont ever treat that trading would be similar or would really be in combined with gambling because it is really totally different.

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July 29, 2021, 08:21:09 PM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.

My suggestion to you would be to slow down or stop all together, at least for the time being. As a financial advisor I have to explain quite often to my clients that actively trading tends to be very complicated and not something most people should be doing unless they’ve got a lot of expertise in the area. Take a break bud, relax, and get more sleep or you’ll continue feeling miserable.

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July 29, 2021, 09:12:27 PM
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Drawing comparisons between trading and gambling is quite funny.

Trading is meant for earning money by predicting the market movement based on news,etc.

Gambling is meant to spend the earned money by playing games which you like and at times winning which will keep you interested in gambling. If you only lose in gambling, you will be bored within a week.

Many experts regard trading as gambling (especially short and medium-term), there is nothing funny about it. Studying the news will not help you to predict the direction of the market in any way, since the market price already takes into account all the news. If you do not have insider knowledge or you are not a market maker, then in most cases trading will not differ from gambling.

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We will know if that's how he's like but as long as he's looking forward to doing the suggestions that he has seen on this thread, that's for him to decide.
But if he thinks that he has to choose one with what you and the others have suggested then it's also up to him if that's fine for him. And as long as he's happy with his choice and has raised awareness for himself with what he's about do, he should be fine choose both or any of it.

Besides, it's his money to spend and whatever decision he choose to follow, everything depends from how he will execute.

Success or the other way around, the only thing here is to read and learn coming from those experienced people who are sharing their experiences within this topic.

Nothing change the fact that whatever he takes the ride will rely withing his shoulder to succeed.
Yes, it's his money to gamble and to trade so it's really his decision entirely at the end and it should be decided by him with all of the possibilities, pros, and cons as he chooses what he has to do. He can go with the two of these later on and check it out and do some experimentation on which side he's better. Since it's just two choices, he doesn't have to think that much about it and do what he really thinks that he's good with.

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You feel this way because you feel a lack of control. Here's my two cents. I hope it helps. First off, what are your goals for these activities? To make money? Yeah? How much do you how to earn doing theses activities ? After you have answered these questions, next thing is to prioritize the time you'd spend on each of these activities. I'd counsel that you plan these activities a day before hand. This is help you have a focus on what you intend to achieve each day doing these activities. It is advisable that you, do these activities at the same time each day to help you develop a routine or pattern and to get your brain prepared.

You'd see as time goes on, you'd start feeling good about yourself once you are able to achieve your daily goals on these activities no matter how little they are. By this time the stress would have completely disappeared because you are now in charge.

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It is advisable that you, do these activities at the same time each day to help you develop a routine or pattern and to get your brain prepared.

OP puts himself right away in a time-consuming activity while also doing other chores at the same time and that leads him to an endless lack of sleep at night.

Because of that, his brain is tired to cooperate with things that he really wants to do. And a result, OP is struggling how to manage properly his time to gambling and trading making it difficult to win every time.

It's not necessary to do those at the same time if handling them both is currently a problem. OP needs to do it slowly by surely. By proper time managing, OP can overcome that soon.

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July 30, 2021, 02:44:47 AM
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What kind of trading are you referring to? If it is day trading there is no difference if compared to gambling: they are the same thing. You can research whole days without sleeping that it won't guarantee you any profitability in the end, because luck is also needed besides knowledge regards the crypto assets or gambling games you are engaged on, since games' results are random and crypto fluctuations are speculative, not being possible to justify them with logical predictions most of times.

Just keep in mind these activities aren't so easy and profitable like some people make it sound on the internet and take a break sometimes. Don't rush into gambling and trading. Do it a little every day or every week and you will find out if it worths for you or not.
He is not  comparing if you read the topic , He is mentioning about his activities in which he tend to trade and he do gambling meaning double risk on his part.
 but the thing is why has he doing the same when he can only choose on since both are very risky?









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July 30, 2021, 03:33:55 AM
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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.
This is really time-consuming, for me personally.. I will just do one of both, or maybe besides gambling.. I will look for other businesses besides trading, such as just investing. In my opinion, if these two things are done.. of course over time your gambling activities will be more and more excessive, it will double the risk, but it depends on each person as well, how to master these two things and time discipline also can manage the income.
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July 30, 2021, 03:38:13 AM
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Trading & Gambling are not the same...
Both have their own purposes and needs...
For Gambling time & money doesn't matter, some low-earned people gamble over 18 hours in a day without having any problem.
Gambling isn't a problem until you force it to make problems in your life.


Now come why & when a person becomes a problem gambler
1) wanna become nouveau riche, 50% of problem gamblers want to be rich in a short-cut way.
2) Passed a stressful day and wanna become relax, people often do gamble after doing physical hard work.
3) wanna become social, some people want to be more authoritarian in their neighborhood and gamble frequently to express their ability.
4) Overconfidence & Excitement, overconfidence & excitement are lying behind to become problem gamblers.
5) To forget the coming problems/fault, people do excess gamble to stay away from their Family chaos/needs.
6) Loneliness & monotony, People become problem gamblers when they are frustrated and indifferent about life.

Find out your one and solve one by one...

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In trading you can use buy or sell orders or stop loss, in these ways at least you can leave it and check it at any time and it doesn't have to be monitored continuously. In contrast to gambling, which at least has to be done manually, of course it will take more time. But yes, it all depends on what gamble you are playing, because if it is a sports bet then you can leave it after making the bet and go back to your trading.

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July 30, 2021, 08:24:46 AM
 #100

In trading you can use buy or sell orders or stop loss, in these ways at least you can leave it and check it at any time and it doesn't have to be monitored continuously. In contrast to gambling, which at least has to be done manually, of course it will take more time. But yes, it all depends on what gamble you are playing, because if it is a sports bet then you can leave it after making the bet and go back to your trading.
Bot in trading and just need a little maintenance while enjoying the gambling industry.
That's what was supposed to happen but I guess TS mixed it up and the product was stress.

Do not make Trading like a day job. It's not really that complicated with the applications made easier by an exchange.
It's reading the market that you should put more work and it's impossible to get an accurate reading.
While gambling should be your escape from all the work you finished.
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