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August 07, 2021, 06:22:35 AM
Merited by LoyceV (12), AB de Royse777 (10), nutildah (6), Symmetrick (6), ibminer (4), The Cryptovator (2), irfan_pak10 (1), dkbit98 (1), YOSHIE (1), ScamViruS (1), Rikafip (1), Awaklara (1)
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Previously, I had informed the irfan_pak10 manager regarding several participants who registered for the signature campaign they held with several accounts that were already connected to the Red Trust via the @irfan_pak10 telegram account.

Bounty    : [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period
Manager  : irfan_pak10
Spreadsheet : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XhBptHvWAR4Jejg302FcmrIF_zo1Sa9Hzvr4WWKnxZ4/edit#gid=993363525

I really respect the manager irfan_pak10. he's been very good at handling the bounty campaign so far. some of the most successful projects. and the participants are also very crowded.
one of them is because the rules he gives are not so strict. some accounts with red trust can still join the signature campaign.
I understand the rules for every manager are a decision and authority of the manager. maybe the manager can accept accounts with negative trust in running campaigns. but I think accepting campaign participants who join multiple accounts is something wrong.

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first
spreadsheet numbers 10 and 20
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Reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg35718121#msg35718121



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Reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195644.msg53239624#msg53239624



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Reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg31846934#msg31846934




I previously told the manager about some of the accounts in the XIRCUS signature campaign in the first week of the campaign. in the hope that those who cheat will be immediately disqualified from the campaign.
but I see managers leave them in the campaign anyway. until the second week, they still get the stake calculation. I don't know what the manager's strategy is to deliberately let them. but as i know it is something wrong. (please let me know if i'm wrong).

Again, I like the manager irfan_pak10. I respect it, I followed some of the campaigns handled. he has a good reputation...but pity those who work honestly in the campaign.

please someone can tell the manager about this. because i told him but i didnt see the manager with his fairness.






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August 07, 2021, 06:50:32 AM
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I think you can also PM irfan_pak10 with the evidence you got and you can also post your finding in the campaign thread to get attention. Regarding the acceptance of participant who have received negative tag for various reason, then I think the manager can decide whether to accept or decline to join the campaign. If the manager find an alt account of the same owner then I'm sure the manager will still disqualify him from the campaign regardless if they currently get the stake or not.

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August 07, 2021, 06:54:54 AM
Last edit: August 07, 2021, 07:07:46 AM by YOSHIE
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please someone can tell the manager about this. because i told him but i didnt see the manager with his fairness.
Yes, I see the campaign rules are written clearly.

But I see that the Alt account published here has been marked (red) long before this campaign was implemented.

What's possible: @irfan_pak10 didn't see the (red) Alt Account sign written on their profile, long before, when accepting participants.
Of course in this case @irfan_pak10, have full control over them, if you look at the rules, it's clear they are cheating.

I'm trying to hear what @irfan_pak10 has to say, about Alt being involved in cheating in the campaign he manages.



OP, just wait @irfan_pak10, it's active, I've sent him a PM.

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August 07, 2021, 07:03:58 AM
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Regarding the acceptance of participant who have received negative tag for various reason, then I think the manager can decide whether to accept or decline to join the campaign.
It's true that each manager can decide whether to accept someone in his campaign, but accepting those that previously cheated in exactly the same thing doesn't make much sense to me and is imho a bad call and a bad bounty management, at least in this case. If he clicked on their trust feedback, he would see that they are enrolling mutlitple accounts in his campaign too and shouldn't even be accept them in the first place.

Beside not being fair to other signature campaign participants, he is not doing any favors to his client either as I don't think its in the Xircus best interest being promoted by a bunch of red tagged cheaters.


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August 07, 2021, 07:09:18 AM
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I think you can also PM irfan_pak10
I've made PM irfan_pak10, he will remove participants if proven.
The problem is I reported via PM in the first week. but in the second week, the accounts still get stakes.
I'm sure something is wrong. or maybe irfan_pak10 hasn't audited the report I created yet.


But I see that the Alt account published here has been marked (red) long before this campaign was implemented.

these accounts have been marked red for a long time. and intentionally enrolled in the same campaign.
I believe @irfan_pak10 should recheck the participants who joined his campaign.

OP, just wait @irfan_pak10, it's active, I've sent him a PM.
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August 07, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
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Pretty extensive use bust of alt accounts, I think that we need more people like you to clean this forum and prevent the abuse and give chance to the truly genuine users in this forum to flourish and grow. It's also cool that @irfan_pak10 is cooperating with your effort to exterminate alts in his campaign.

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August 07, 2021, 02:32:55 PM
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It's true that each manager can decide whether to accept someone in his campaign, but accepting those that previously cheated in exactly the same thing doesn't make much sense to me and is imho a bad call and a bad bounty management, at least in this case. If he clicked on their trust feedback, he would see that they are enrolling mutlitple accounts in his campaign too and shouldn't even be accept them in the first place.
I may agree with you, but I don't see any specific rule from irfan_pak10 campaign to disallow members with previous negative tag from joining. This allow them to register for the campaign and the manager will consider the application for acceptance. If there were specific rule about banning users with negative tag from joining campaign, this issue probably would never have arisen because the manager would still not accept their app.

I've also noticed some other campaign managers are also accepting participant with negative tag, actually it really depend on what issues the user is having with the tag. If they are the perpetrator of fraud in the campaign, then their application will not be considered. In the end I believe irfan_pak10 will decide how best to manage his own campaign. He is the manager and it may be unethical to accept anyone with their alt in the same campaign if the manager has obtained strong enough evidence. Disqualification is the consequence.

I've made PM irfan_pak10, he will remove participants if proven.
The problem is I reported via PM in the first week. but in the second week, the accounts still get stakes.
I'm sure something is wrong. or maybe irfan_pak10 hasn't audited the report I created yet.
Because the campaign will last for 4 week, there is still plenty of time for manager to take take action for either the 3rd or 4th week. But since he has responded to your PM, then it seem this problem will be handled by the manager soon.

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Thank you so much for this finding, I really appreciate the efforts you put in to find those alt accounts. As I mentioned in your PM that we'll surely reject them, and after your PM, I sent your findings to my guy and told him to reject all those alt entries, but I think he forgot to reject them when he reviewed the 2nd-week. I'm again going to send him these findings and all will be rejected.

Actually, I have a bonus system implemented in my campaign, that anyone who finds alts, or any other finding that we missed and it's against our rules, we are giving them some bonus stakes, whether he is a part of a campaign or not. And you deserve those stakes. If you want, please do send me your wallet. It's a token of appreciation and encouragement for other people to take part in finding spam/scams from this forum. Again thank you and sorry my guys forget about it. We apologize.

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Thank you so much for this finding, I really appreciate the efforts you put in to find those alt accounts. As I mentioned in your PM that we'll surely reject them, and after your PM, I sent your findings to my guy and told him to reject all those alt entries, but I think he forgot to reject them when he reviewed the 2nd-week. I'm again going to send him these findings and all will be rejected.

thank you for your response. I am sure you will do the best for your campaign. I know you are a manager with good campaign management. you have a good reputation. hopefully your friends don't forget to reject the cheater accounts in the 3rd week calculation.


Actually, I have a bonus system implemented in my campaign, that anyone who finds alts, or any other finding that we missed and it's against our rules, we are giving them some bonus stakes, whether he is a part of a campaign or not. And you deserve those stakes. If you want, please do send me your wallet. It's a token of appreciation and encouragement for other people to take part in finding spam/scams from this forum. Again thank you and sorry my guys forget about it. We apologize.
regarding bonuses. I think that's not my goal.
I will provide another option. give the bonus to a friend or assistant who helps you manage the campaign. I'm sure with so many projects, they also get pressure.
buy them extra vitamins and supplements. so that they are not easy to miscommunication. I'm sure they will like it. Grin




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August 08, 2021, 08:02:05 PM
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Sorry, I have nothing to do with any of them, although alt accusations have previously been leveled against me, and I got redtrus. And I joined the project @Irfan_Pak already Red Trust. So he can check from before. And on the red trust tag it is clear which account is connected. But @Irfan_Pak accepts in his campaign. If the account really belongs to one person, of course, from the start, have avoided not joining the same project. Since it's not a one-person account, I can't disallow other people's work and rights to join any project. And I can't stop people from joining any project. Nor can they forbid my rights.
Thank you for everything.
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I see you as "the cat pounced on the kitten" because so that there are no other male cats while you do the same thing when your life joins a project in another bounty that you have irfan_pak10.  I saw it elsewhere Multi-acc
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I see you as "the cat pounced on the kitten" because so that there are no other male cats while you do the same thing when your life joins a project in another bounty that you have irfan_pak10.  I saw it elsewhere Multi-acc
I actually see you clearly using the same ETH address as the other account.
see this post AhmadM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352290.msg57596591#msg57596591

https://ninjastic.space/post/55458581

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this morning I got a direct PM from @almasari via telegram.
she says I will feel that too.
after that, the thread you are reporting is created with a different account.

I know @almasari meant to reply to what I did.
I know some of those other accounts might be linked. I have found 1 yes it's you. and others just wait I will find it.



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August 09, 2021, 03:04:12 AM
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I see you as "the cat pounced on the kitten" because so that there are no other male cats while you do the same thing when your life joins a project in another bounty that you have irfan_pak10.  I saw it elsewhere Multi-acc
I actually see you clearly using the same ETH address as the other account.
see this post AhmadM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352290.msg57596591#msg57596591

https://ninjastic.space/post/55458581

What is your opinion?



this morning I got a direct PM from @almasari via telegram.
she says I will feel that too.
after that, the thread you are reporting is created with a different account.

I know @almasari meant to reply to what I did.
I know some of those other accounts might be linked. I have found 1 yes it's you. and others just wait I will find it.
I don't know your problem with Almasani and I have nothing to do with it either with you, for sure you also do the same thing, with your various reasons for justification but what is clear is that your account is also connected to another account, maybe you even have several  other accounts, so that you collect a lot of profit, and you don't want others to get as lucky as you
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I see you as "the cat pounced on the kitten" because so that there are no other male cats while you do the same thing when your life joins a project in another bounty that you have irfan_pak10.  I saw it elsewhere Multi-acc
I actually see you clearly using the same ETH address as the other account.
see this post AhmadM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352290.msg57596591#msg57596591

https://ninjastic.space/post/55458581

What is your opinion?



this morning I got a direct PM from @almasari via telegram.
she says I will feel that too.
after that, the thread you are reporting is created with a different account.

I know @almasari meant to reply to what I did.
I know some of those other accounts might be linked. I have found 1 yes it's you. and others just wait I will find it.
the result of this developmentYOSHIE on tread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353416.msg57651196#msg57651196
explained that rozak uses many wallets and collects in one wallet with made-up reasons as a teacher and others irfan_pak10 should see this why he plays like that

So far you have too many accounts
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August 09, 2021, 07:55:21 AM
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the result of this developmentYOSHIE on tread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353416.msg57651196#msg57651196
explained that rozak uses many wallets and collects in one wallet with made-up reasons as a teacher and others irfan_pak10 should see this why he plays like that

So far you have too many accounts
what does that have to do with @irfan_pak10 dude?
do I join multiple accounts in irfan_pak10 campaign?
if I face the problem of cheating in a campaign. you can tell me. share in a thread.

the account you are accusing is my teacher's account. he is in a different city than me. if you want to check and make sure you can create a chat room related to the particulars you are accused of.

I'm sure there's a lot of research going on at the moment. I leave everything to them. If indeed I am found guilty of joining a campaign with multiple accounts I will accept all of them.
Don't worry, I'm not vengeful.



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Actually, I have a bonus system implemented in my campaign, that anyone who finds alts, or any other finding that we missed and it's against our rules, we are giving them some bonus stakes, whether he is a part of a campaign or not. And you deserve those stakes. If you want, please do send me your wallet. It's a token of appreciation and encouragement for other people to take part in finding spam/scams from this forum.

I think this is a good initiative, because:

1. it encourages people to find cheaters,
2. it encourages cheaters not to cheat, and
3. it saves the project from having to pay out tokens to cheaters.

I took a look at your Xircus spreadsheet and right from the first participant I managed to connect several alts, a few of which are in your campaign. They all belong to former bounty manager aTriz/jamalaezaz (surprise, they are the same person).

His accounts in the Xircus campaign I have identified thus far are:

Hobo66
Digital_Lord
fortune1002

I outline the connection here, although it can be confusing so patience is required:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335270.msg57652170#msg57652170

They have all been connected before if you look at their trust histories.

Let me know if you would like additional explanation.

This was just the first guy on the list! If I had more time I'm sure I'd find a lot more campaign abusers.

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Actually, I have a bonus system implemented in my campaign, that anyone who finds alts, or any other finding that we missed and it's against our rules, we are giving them some bonus stakes, whether he is a part of a campaign or not. And you deserve those stakes. If you want, please do send me your wallet. It's a token of appreciation and encouragement for other people to take part in finding spam/scams from this forum. Again thank you and sorry my guys forget about it. We apologize.
Thanks for your action against campaign abuser. I really appreciate that decision. It would prevent alt account from joining in the campaign or at least it will help to kick off campaign abuser. Many account farmers are still around us, always they have been getting advantage to joining campaigns with many alt accounts. So someone needs to find then those have enough time to do so. And a small appreciation for them will encourage more to find alt account.

@OP, you did a great job. Keep finding campaign abusers and account farmers.

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Actually, I have a bonus system implemented in my campaign, that anyone who finds alts, or any other finding that we missed and it's against our rules, we are giving them some bonus stakes, whether he is a part of a campaign or not. And you deserve those stakes. If you want, please do send me your wallet. It's a token of appreciation and encouragement for other people to take part in finding spam/scams from this forum. Again thank you and sorry my guys forget about it. We apologize.
Thanks for your action against campaign abuser. I really appreciate that decision. It would prevent alt account from joining in the campaign or at least it will help to kick off campaign abuser. Many account farmers are still around us, always they have been getting advantage to joining campaigns with many alt accounts. So someone needs to find then those have enough time to do so. And a small appreciation for them will encourage more to find alt account.

@OP, you did a great job. Keep finding campaign abusers and account farmers.

Thank you, and actually thanks to OP, He did invest good amount of time in finding them which I couldn't, Which I should have, That's why I requested if he can provide me his address I might add his address so he'll get some tokens as a gift from me and appreciation, Its not only him, after my this bonus call, I got few more request and users sent me few other abuser too/

@OP My rejected have already rejected all of them, Thanks to you, and please consider my request for a bonus.



And there are a few cheaters who sometimes do not bother to change the address while joining with their alt. See I am using a formula for duplicated and find out a guy who used the same address for his alts. Later he requested to update his address by saying - He actually used someone else address to join the campaign.

mckinleeanael07 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2823419
alviemery96 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2824867

Later he edited the form with a new address. But I already tagged him





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August 11, 2021, 09:21:43 PM
Last edit: August 12, 2021, 06:13:17 PM by Moeda
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Hi Awaklara, where is your source saying I'm connected with MonaLeeTracy. Don't be too stupid in your search for merit.
If you don't understand, you better learn first. Work well. Even if you get merit, then join the signature project, it will not bring you a blessing.
What you archive with what you write is much different.
You have slandered me.

The proof you provided.



The archive you provided.





But that's okay. I have forgiven you, because I know you are still in the learning stage.
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Last edit: August 12, 2021, 12:12:58 AM by Awaklara
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Hi Awaklara, where is your source saying I'm connected with MonaLeeTracy. Don't be too stupid in your search for merit.
If you don't understand, you better learn first. Work well. Even if you get merit, then join the signature project, it will not bring you a blessing.
What you archive with what you write is much different.
You have slandered me.


Hi Moeda, i admit that i'm still learning. I don't mean to slander you on merit and because basically I'm only interested in researching fraudulent accounts.
to be honest even before rozak wrote this thread someone contacted me via telegram message and asked for my help to report multiple accounts in the same campaign (Xircus).





but rozak writes faster than me, so i just tried to research the others. and once again I want to apologize because this is purely my fault, I was not careful in write the address (ccC5) + (CCc5)

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Last edit: August 14, 2021, 05:22:37 AM by YOSHIE
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I'm also curious about Bounty Xircus, what is the price of Xircus tokens in the market....! People are competing to register and involve Alt accounts into the Xircus campaign.

At a glance I see, the example below involves an Alt account registering/participating in a Xircus campaign, are they not reading the campaign rules or just for the sake of greed to generate as many tokens as possible/people.



Just look at the telegram used by the three accounts below.
The first Telegram used by:@hamba laeh, used by:@Zulkifli BI.

Accounts Connected:

1. hamba laeh
2. Zulkifli BI
3. armanhusni

Proof:

   - Bitcointalk username: hamba laeh
    - Telegram link: @hamba_laeh
    - Wallet address: 0x3A339E9C14C1697adD7a804C0ab14CD80f28dC0f
https://archive.vn/wip/UZpqa

Bitcointalk username: Zulkifli BI
Your telegram username: @Hamba_Laeh
https://archive.vn/wip/Qv2i2

The second telegram used by: @Zulkifli BI is used by: @armanhusni.

Telegrame username : @husniarman
https://archive.vn/wip/jhlKt

telegram username : @husniarman
https://archive.vn/SGrkA

The three Alt accounts are listed as blatantly fraudulent at: SPREADSHEETS, they are listed: @hamba laeh: number(83), @Zulkifli BI number(22) and @armanhusni number(18).

The application registration page of the three of them.

@hamba laeh page:(27).
Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period

@Zulkifli BI page:(14).
Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period

@armanhusni page:(12).
Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period




Accounts Connected:

1. Power4BD
2. MSI420

Proof:

Forum Username: Power4BD
Telegram Username: @Skbull4
BEP-20 Wallet Address: 0x5b8e45fb4aA96A04bB3b5964295EaE71d7d9b6D2
https://archive.vn/wip/AOwIN

- Bitcointalk username: MSI420
- Telegram username: @CryptoBID420
- BEP-20 address: 0x5b8e45fb4aA96A04bB3b5964295EaE71d7d9b6D2
https://archive.vn/wip/5FabC

Just look at the registration page for both of them.

@Power4BD page:(36).
Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period

@MSI420 page:(21).
Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period

I'll bet, if we focus and eradicate the Alt account in the Xircus campaign, I guarantee: @irfan_pak10 as manager must wear boots to kick everything almost 50% must be removed.

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Last edit: August 15, 2021, 02:35:46 AM by MSI420
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But once I replay a bounty, I copy the one below as proof of authorization (POA) but forget to edit the address.
Thank you for reminding me and i realize who you really are.

You should be aware of everything that happens to your Alt account on this forum.
Maybe you don't care about this thread anymore: Topic: I am not cheating sir , please check it, you should take a lesson from your own thread.



Your reasoning makes sense to me, you are right, that you didn't have time to edit your application, because you have the most Alt accounts in this forum to collect large amounts of tokens in every campaign in this forum, because you are greedy.

Apps in other campaigns, i forgot to edit: telegram, twitter, facebook, i did the same thing too, Joke.

Oh i forgot, to upvote another Alt account involved and cheating in the same campaign, i.e: (Xircus).

Proof:

Reporting Week Number: #12(14/06-20/06)
Bitcointalk Username: Power4BD
Telegram Username: @RZrakib
Twitter Username: @Shakib680
Twitter Profile Link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Shakib680
https://archive.vn/wip/QxmkP

Tweets
1. https://twitter.com/Shiful680/status/1423283743431618562?s=20

#Week 3 : 05 AUG TO 11 AUG
Telegram Campaign
@RZrakib
https://archive.vn/wip/WNkoZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331648.msg56819413#msg56819413
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Forum Username: Bountyxleader
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3205797
Telegram Username: @CryptoBID420
https://archive.vn/wip/cXpiO

Bitcointalk Username: Bountyxleader
Twitter Profile Link: https://mobile.twitter.com/Shakib680
Telegram Username: @Bountyxleader
https://archive.vn/wip/10Dss

One more Alt Account involved in the same campaign.

1. Bountyxleader

Proof of registration page.

Topic: [Bounty] Xircus 🚀 $100k worth of Coins 🚀 1 Month Period

I hope you will be happy with all this, enjoy, do i need to upvote your other Alt here.

If you, still don't admit it, maybe your other Alts will follow suit.

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