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August 16, 2021, 05:02:16 AM |
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This is definitely a huge blow to these streamers.
However, I don't necessarily think that it will affect Twitch that much. All they said was that gambling related affiliate links can't be posted, it doesn't mean that streamers can't be offered exclusive deals with these casinos to promote their service still.
And I'm sure that enforcement of this will be spotty at best - it doesn't take too long to shorten an affiliate link into a bit.ly link at all.
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August 16, 2021, 05:38:14 AM |
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It's good that they do have restrictions but I think it's much better if they filtered out real and fake gambling sites, but I think it's really hard work to spot which sites are fake or not since some legitimate gambling sites can turn into scam and there's no way we can predict or to know that.
I agree with you mate determining which site is a scam or real one is definitely hard. Twitch really made a great decision by imposing a restrictions on gambling-related links however it is easy to impose restriction but how about the filtering of links which one is the real one and which one is fake. I mean every social media sites we have today allowing streamers to exposed gambling sites in their pages but one or many of the links were scam and it is alarming because a lot of people got victim on this scam sites.
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August 16, 2021, 05:52:02 AM |
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From what i've seen a lot of streamers were promoting crypto casinos so there's definitely an impact but I feel like this change doesn't have that much effect because they could still promote their links indirectly by using a different platform like discord for example. I guess it's a step in the right direction for twitch as a lot of viewers are against gambling streams but they need to put in more restrictions if they really want to stop scams for good.
Yeah exactly. A lot of streamers have already built up a sizeable following and it's not hard to see that they will simply move to a different platform if Twitch decides to ban affiliate links. Using Discord is definitely an alternative. Mainstream streamers already have these systems in place including proprietary communities that they've set up over the years - doubt this will actually affect anyone in a major way.
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August 16, 2021, 07:06:08 AM |
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Does this apply to bookies as well, or pure gambling only? What about poker sites, for instance?
Probably not since streamers rarely do sports betting streams but a lot of bookies have their own casinos though. How popular are crypto casinos specifically when it comes to sponsorships on Twitch, for example?
They're very popular, most of the big streamers have been using crypto casinos but i'm not sure if all of them are sponsored though. If the streamers are largely promoting fiat casinos, it's not going to affect the crypto gambling negatively.
It used to be the case back then I remember a couple of streamers using betonline but now crypto casinos are taking over since they're more accessible.
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Sadly, I think it will only kill small-time players who rely on referral links, but for sponsored one, they can still offer their services. They don't need to show links, and they still can show the casino GUI along with the logo, etc. That said, new streamers should think about how they monetize their content. It sucks (and won't change anything)!
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August 16, 2021, 01:39:44 PM |
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Do you think youtube will also do the same?
Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.
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August 16, 2021, 01:45:10 PM |
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The latest creator update from Twitch says, "To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,” Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos. News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-linksDo you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling? Ofcourse This will have an impact on the crypto gambling for sure. Twitch is used by many people and most of the Gamblers are making huge money through that therefore if they decide to remove all the links it would not only affect gamblers but also the account holder and the casino. At the same time they will still have plenty of options like YouTube etc to use therefore it would not be that hard to move onto something else. I do not think that YouTube will do the same but it will provide restrictions for sure since this is a matter of concern but at the same time they should not ban it.
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August 16, 2021, 01:46:26 PM |
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It only restricts so I don't think that it will affect crypto gambling, I mean the PG Twitch streamers wouldn't have anything to remove after all. Unless, they count those skin sites for CS:GO and DOTA2 as a gambling site but besides that, there's no problem that can probably affect crypto gambling site from the new addition to the regulation.
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August 16, 2021, 06:03:48 PM |
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Fron majority the comments it seems that people don't think crypto gambling will be majorly impacted by this move of Twich and that makes sense! I tried to search crypto gambling streams there and hardly I can find a handful. 99% of the gambling videos are related to fiat casinos. So I belive fiat casinos will see a major impact due to such decisions made by the management of twich. Also the streamers will be discouraged to make gambling related content because they won't be able to earn referral income. So it's a major blow for them. I am happy that crypto gambling never made big appearance in Twich.
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August 16, 2021, 06:52:30 PM |
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Sadly, I think it will only kill small-time players who rely on referral links, but for sponsored one, they can still offer their services. They don't need to show links, and they still can show the casino GUI along with the logo, etc. That said, new streamers should think about how they monetize their content. It sucks (and won't change anything)!
The referral link reliant might find a way to not have their career in the platform affected, if they've built up a small but loyal community, pretty sure that it will eventually come back to them and they would have some way to make money besides those links plus, it's not like Twitch bans the usage, it's still good as long as you don't have a lot of young audiences.
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August 16, 2021, 07:54:21 PM |
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Do you think youtube will also do the same?
Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.
Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company. They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations on other platforms as well.
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Do you think youtube will also do the same?
Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.
Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company. They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations on other platforms as well. It's hard now to maintain or find some reputable players on any gambling platform. They want this platform to have a lot of accomplishments and a good reputation so that players can use it. Having gambling advertising has a significant impact on them because they do not want any reports of scam activities, thus they have deleted them to prevent future difficulties. Same goes with the other platforms, they will remove it if there's a lot of reports and activities about it.
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August 16, 2021, 10:40:05 PM |
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I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.
Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.
All social media nowadays almost show live gambling and of course not only on YouTube, Facebook, even now on TikTok they deliberately do live streaming, it has the impact of aggression on gambling bringing in some new players because they watch from various videos that are shared. That's true. And as I've said, there are other platforms and those includes what you've said. Although in some platforms, there are more kids that will that content. It's the worry that might get in through that content.
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August 16, 2021, 11:11:56 PM |
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The latest creator update from Twitch says, "To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,” Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos. News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-linksDo you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling? Does anyone know if Eddie from Stake will continue his live streams on Twitch with his giveaway codes? It's sad for gamblers because I think those kind of streams were really interesting to discover games and to learn how to play with them.
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August 17, 2021, 04:08:31 AM |
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I see this as a simple business model, that is, as gambling and betting houses are so popular today, and they handle a large amount of money for advertising, if now we start to see what these regulations are intentionally doing, to later demand that they accept only and exclusively so that they pay and can have their advertising on the Twitch platform, this is very simple, I think that after a month or more, they will have that option so that they can acquire the benefit.
The same will happen on YouTube and all the social networks that see who handle a large amount of demand, this for me is simple, it is a business model.
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August 17, 2021, 05:13:42 AM |
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The latest creator update from Twitch says, "To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,” Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos. News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-linksDo you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling? I would say that this news is mostly bad for the big streamers because online casinos offened them a huge amount of money if they regularly play on their casinos during streams and then afterwards post Youtube videos with compilations of their biggest winnings while gambling. There was a leak a few weeks ago which showed that the pretty big streamer adin ross was offered more than 1 M $ by different online casinos if he uses their site on stream for a month. So big streamers will probably lose their biggest source of income. I don't think that the casinos will suffer from that ban, because gambling was always popular and will probably always be.
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August 17, 2021, 07:39:00 AM |
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only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why . it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .
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August 17, 2021, 02:38:05 PM |
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Do you think youtube will also do the same?
Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.
Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company. They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations on other platforms as well. It's hard now to maintain or find some reputable players on any gambling platform. They want this platform to have a lot of accomplishments and a good reputation so that players can use it. Having gambling advertising has a significant impact on them because they do not want any reports of scam activities, thus they have deleted them to prevent future difficulties. Same goes with the other platforms, they will remove it if there's a lot of reports and activities about it. There are plenty more on youtube streamers promoting scam casino and even new tokens but they are not removing. The problem with such act is that these streamers are popular that could also protest to spread bad reputation to twitch. If twitch will do this manually they they hire people to check each, it wouldn't affect everyone including the influencers who are providing legitimate reviews.
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August 17, 2021, 03:03:28 PM |
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Well, it's not the crypto gambling that may affected but related twitch gambling streaming may tend to decrease because these streamers may find another platform to stream it live. These streamers will still have time to remind their viewers where and when they'll transition.
Moreover, I think this isn't will be the issue with the links it might be more than that, maybe they'll restrict streaming gambling in the future and this is just the pre-announcement for that.
Too many kids are watching these streams, mostly sponsored by casinos! And it's insane how they play with high stakes, buying bonus rounds with thousands of dollars, and winning with the last money, usually some insane win! Twitch will just follow regulations if they wish to continue working! I think the same, gambling streamers will find a new platform! It will be interesting to see what will they choose... I am not sure is there some alternative for them at the moment!? It seems to be one fair reason for that suspension of gambling links sharing because children are more prone to have mental instability with all such things at an early age and they can spend enough funds in undisclosed manner from parents cards as we have seen many cases of the same.To protect to exposure to such gambling things at an early age will protect them in future.But if we talk about streamers they will surely find some other platforms for their business as they are not going to stop until they stop getting sponsored bank rolls.So just let it be.
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It's good that they do have restrictions but I think it's much better if they filtered out real and fake gambling sites, but I think it's really hard work to spot which sites are fake or not since some legitimate gambling sites can turn into scam and there's no way we can predict or to know that.
that might be the problem. they don't filter which ones are legit or not. but generalizes everything. Their idea of protecting their users from fake casinos and online scams is very good. but there must be a way other than completely banning streamers from sharing their ref links. but it seems that very few gambling streamers have complained about this policy, they can still exist on Twitch and get other benefits from streaming.
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