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August 17, 2021, 07:37:20 PM
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If we all were to report those zero-valued posts, that would be like taking away over 80% of the discussion volumes. And that's after discounting those "complete garbage" as gibberish or spambots.
And what would the section be left with if all of those posts were deleted?  Most of the good stuff!  That's why all of those shitposts should be reported when you see them--and I'm not saying you need to go out of your way to look for them, but if you're reading threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion you're inevitably going to come across them.  It only takes a few seconds to report a garbage post to the mods and then your part is done.

I just made a post in Meta about the quality of posts in Economics deteriorating lately and asked whether this might be due to an increase in signature campaigns and/or bounties.  I don't follow the Services section (or the bounty one), so I don't have a good sense of how many are currently active.  But it sure as hell seems like those old "bitcoin has a bright future and is increasing day by day" posts are making a comeback.

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August 19, 2021, 04:25:10 PM
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And what would the section be left with if all of those posts were deleted?  Most of the good stuff!  That's why all of those shitposts should be reported when you see them--and I'm not saying you need to go out of your way to look for them, but if you're reading threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion you're inevitably going to come across them.  [...] But it sure as hell seems like those old "bitcoin has a bright future and is increasing day by day" posts are making a comeback.
Lol, so that's why you wanted to take the username "Skeptical Chemist" ... it turns out you do not believe in the bright future of Bitcoin, blabla, and etc. But seriously speaking (although this has already been mentioned), in order to put an end to this discussion, and at the same time unload the moderators and the users themselves, Theymos should think about creating the same conditions in this section as in the "Serious discussion & Ivory Tower" section. But, personally, I am against it, since this is likely to affect other sections ... sections that spammers, thank God, bypass for the time being.

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August 19, 2021, 04:53:03 PM
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I think we are all agree that something needs to change I do not know the best solution to our problems with the spam but we as a community need to pick up the slack if there are not enough moderators until theymos decides to add new moderators. The more reports we make in Bitcoin Discussion the more likely theymos will add a new moderator. I do not report many posts but I will put special effort into reporting spam posts I see on that board from now on and I hope others will to because atm the spam is very bad there.
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August 20, 2021, 07:42:21 AM
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I also think that there are many similar questions in the Bitcoin discussion section, and the content of some topics is not true, and the questions sent at random are not convincing. There are many more worthless threads than valuable threads. I think it can be strictly reviewed. Some inferior posts or posts with no quality and value can be left unreserved. When I first joined the forum, I felt that the Bitcoin discussion part should be the main part, but I think the quality of Bitcoin discussion posts is not so high now.
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August 20, 2021, 09:05:03 AM
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I think the forum is very good now (except for some bounty hunters) and everything else is very good.

Many new people join the forum every day. Many old members of the forum are also very patient to answer questions like others
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August 21, 2021, 04:47:58 PM
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And what would the section be left with if all of those posts were deleted?  Most of the good stuff!  That's why all of those shitposts should be reported when you see them--and I'm not saying you need to go out of your way to look for them, but if you're reading threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion you're inevitably going to come across them.  It only takes a few seconds to report a garbage post to the mods and then your part is done.

I just made a post in Meta about the quality of posts in Economics deteriorating lately and asked whether this might be due to an increase in signature campaigns and/or bounties.  I don't follow the Services section (or the bounty one), so I don't have a good sense of how many are currently active.  But it sure as hell seems like those old "bitcoin has a bright future and is increasing day by day" posts are making a comeback.

Agreed. Much easier to digest what's going on without seeing the same thing posted over and over again.

But then, if this happens while I'm an advertiser, I'd be pretty sad because I need them to spread my brand Wink

If you're referring to the number of signature campaigns, you could check out the Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns by Mitchell. I won't bother with bounties because they're aplenty and I doubt anyone has the time to make a compilation AFAIK.

But it sure as hell seems like those old "bitcoin has a bright future and is increasing day by day" posts are making a comeback.

Tell me about it. Grin

Happened to stumble across one thread earlier today about "deciphering" the Bit from Bitcoin and one senior member expressed his exasperation because of this.

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The most recent threads created in Bitcoin Discussion...



This has been over the last 24 hours. Every one of his 12 threads is text spun plagiarism and zero value trash. This board needs a dedicated mod to stop users like this before they gain traction.
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This has been over the last 24 hours. Every one of his 12 threads is text spun plagiarism and zero value trash. This board needs a dedicated mod to stop users like this before they gain traction.
Those should be considered as topics spamming, I hope most if not all will be deleted soon. 12 topics in just less than a day. Maybe the person is doing it thinking it will earn him merit, or doing it for recognition, I just do not understand.

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August 22, 2021, 07:39:36 PM
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Every one of his 12 threads is text spun plagiarism and zero value trash. This board needs a dedicated mod to stop users like this before they gain traction.
I actually commented on one of the users thread, although the main theme of the comment was replying to an idea I saw in another reply while scrolling through and which I thought was wrong. The purpose of the topic is a hackneyed one on the comparison of Bitcoin to gold.

It's an obvious case of spam and looking at the user's post history,,they have never replied to any of their threads since they joined the forum, they just push out thread after thread with no care to interact with any discussion on any of the threads.

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This has been over the last 24 hours. Every one of his 12 threads is text spun plagiarism and zero value trash. This board needs a dedicated mod to stop users like this before they gain traction.
In this case; a newbie posting these types of posts, there should be enough patrollers to deal with it. The issue is likely with higher ranks, that would justify a dedicated moderator. Assuming that global moderators are overwhelmed or not going through the section, and cleaning it up a little bit.

Those should be considered as topics spamming, I hope most if not all will be deleted soon. 12 topics in just less than a day. Maybe the person is doing it thinking it will earn him merit, or doing it for recognition, I just do not understand.
The user was text spinning from articles elsewhere. The text spinning was fairly decent at avoiding most searches, however ultimately wasn't good enough to avoid being nuked.
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[......] It's an obvious case of spam and looking at the user's post history,,they have never replied to any of their threads since they joined the forum, they just push out thread after thread with no care to interact with any discussion on any of the threads.
Do you really think this problem only applies to beginners? Here on the forum, there are quite a few high-ranking users who do not hesitate to create hundreds of useless shitty threads ... moreover, these users, receive hundreds of merits. And they will not even bother to respond in their own discussions ... which once again convinces me that it is not in vain that I ignore such "supposedly" significant authors. I mean, in addition to all of the above, we should also reconsider the rules of plagiarism, etc. ... because now there are double standards on the forum in this regard.

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Do you really think this problem only applies to beginners?
The "they" in my reply was referring to the specific user and not beginners or newbies. Spam is not peculiar to rank and merits or activity is not an explicit sign of a positive member to the forum.
Trolls, scammers and spammers come in all profiles and ranks.

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