I started a porn site that pays you in Bitcoin.

[Pornhash]

Seems like a good enough idea. I imagine there wouldn’t be enough revenue to really make something like this worth sitting home all day and doing, but maybe if you integrate your own ticket there is potential to create something of massive value similar to how Binance was funded with BNB. I have no doubt this sort of thing will become more common in the future as internet users smarten up to the fact they are the product in most scenarios and demand compensation.

I like the way you think! Internet users are mostly treated as cows for milking. If we gave back even just a little bit that would totally change their overall usage behavior in a more positive way.

Brave does this with their platform. you essentially agree to have ads popup as you browse but there're interesting and you get their token back in return. 

I'll visit this tonight when I have nothing else to do.
I just check a little bit of the site in my mobile phone and was happy that it is somehow convenient to scroll down unlike other where I still need to zoom, though do you plan to still make a mobile app for that soon though?

A mobile app is entirely possible on Android! iPhone can only do a web version pushed to their home screen. Hmm, interesting thought, I might look into this if people want it

• Does it count a video as watched, if we skip to a certain point in the video ^{[nobody likes the intros]}?
• Just to be clear, there'll be also a reward for those that use an ad blocker of some sort?

• Don't wanna get too far into how we go about counting watches but lets just say I dont watch the intros either
  
• We do not allow people to earn if they use ad blocker. we're looking up ways around this, but for now, there is a popup that makes you turn it off

you saying you accept BCH, not Bitcoin while the pop-up message on your site said "Don't forget to create a wallet to earn Bitcoin! Otherwise, you won't be able to bank on the videos you watch." may make your site visitors loose interest and have the feeling of dishonest.

Yeah, thanks for pointing this out, it's fixed. Originally, we were using BTC and didn't get to change text to BCH as we got a million other things going on

Second, I know you're doing this to earn asap but you need to remove the redirect feature when clicking on the "create a wallet to earn".

Thats a call to action button needed for people to go and create a wallet. Without it most people wander the site for a wee bit, watch a few videos and dip. That has actually improved engagement. People that go to the site are more or less interested in doing this already.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged][/list]

[1714751828]

1714751828

[Zedpastin]

I'll visit this tonight when I have nothing else to do.
I just check a little bit of the site in my mobile phone and was happy that it is somehow convenient to scroll down unlike other where I still need to zoom, though do you plan to still make a mobile app for that soon though?

A mobile app is entirely possible on Android! iPhone can only do a web version pushed to their home screen. Hmm, interesting thought, I might look into this if people want it

I would not put a lot of effort into creating a android app because you will not be able to host it on Google Play because it would be against their TOS and you would need to get people to disable their security feature on their phone to allow install from unknown sources which not a lot of people will be willing to do. I would concentrate on making it mobile friendly with a web browser instead.

[AnoniX1]

Well the main problem is that you pirate copyrighted  content in fact. Building a trustful buisness around a porn tube like this isn't good for the long way.

I had the same idea a long time ago and work with pornsites by myself. But without own or licensed content you always need to sneek in the underground.

[LoyceV]

BTW, I meant crucify by using BCH instead of bitcoin.

If you want to use Bitcoin for microtransactions, you could consider using Lightning Network.

Porn made the VHS and later the internet big, so it could probably do the same for Bitcoin LN.

If the pay is that low, I'd go lower than BCH or ETH, for example Dogecoin.

Doge has higher fees than Bitcoin nowadays. Most wallets send 1 Doge, Ledger wants to pay even more than that.

What does the "hash" in your name stand for? My first assumption was you'd use a browser miner for some altcoin, turning CPU power into revenue. But I can't check your site, as it instantly denies access on Tor.

[NeuroticFish]

If the pay is that low, I'd go lower than BCH or ETH, for example Dogecoin.

Doge has higher fees than Bitcoin nowadays. Most wallets send 1 Doge, Ledger wants to pay even more than that.

I've heard that at Doge's last ATH. But one may be able to convert/exchange to another coin of preference before withdrawing.
The point was to use a way to show the users they are earning something, anything more than 0. And the more expensive coins are not suitable for that.

At a second thought, another direction could be to show more (10? 12? 15?) digits after the decimal point for a "cheaper to withdraw" coin.

[mocacinno]

--snip--

I've heard that at Doge's last ATH. But one may be able to convert/exchange to another coin of preference before withdrawing.
The point was to use a way to show the users they are earning something, anything more than 0. And the more expensive coins are not suitable for that.

At a second thought, another direction could be to show more (10? 12? 15?) digits after the decimal point for a "cheaper to withdraw" coin.

Well, as an addendum to my test:  a while after "watching" a couple of video's on my phone (in reality, i just pushed "play" on 4 or 5 video's and let them play while i was working on my laptop in the meantime) i received a mail from the site that i got an incoming "transaction".
Now, i know those payouts probably aren't all that high, but i still was disspointed with 20 satoshi's (that is, BCH satoshi's, at an exchange rate of ~540€/BCH)... I mean, that's an equivalent of 0.00011€, and those video's played for at least 40 minutes... So you'd have to watch about 50.000 video's to reach 1€.

I still think it's a good idear the OP has, but at the moment i don't think i'll be a regular visitor, the amount of video's on the site is lower than the amount of video's that i'd need to watch to scrape together 1€.

Anyways, @OP: good luck with your project.

[LoyceV]

Now, i know those payouts probably aren't all that high, but i still was disspointed with 20 satoshi's (that is, BCH satoshi's, at an exchange rate of ~540€/BCH)... I mean, that's an equivalent of 0.00011€, and those video's played for at least 40 minutes... So you'd have to watch about 50.000 video's to reach 1€.

I'm surprised there's no dust limit on BCH. This 0.0000002 BCH isn't even enough to pay the fee to send it, it's literally worthless dust and would cost more than it's worth to use.

[mocacinno]

Now, i know those payouts probably aren't all that high, but i still was disspointed with 20 satoshi's (that is, BCH satoshi's, at an exchange rate of ~540€/BCH)... I mean, that's an equivalent of 0.00011€, and those video's played for at least 40 minutes... So you'd have to watch about 50.000 video's to reach 1€.

I'm surprised there's no dust limit on BCH. This 0.0000002 BCH isn't even enough to pay the fee to send it, it's literally worthless dust and would cost more than it's worth to use.

I might have made my previous post a bit confusing tbh... It was an offchain (internal) transaction (that's why i put it between quotes), so my account information now shows a balance of 20 satoshi's, but i haven't withdrawn them yet... I can only assume i'll need at least 1 sat/byte as a fee, and there'll probably also be a dust limit... So i guess you'll have to have a balance of at least 500-1000 sat's before you can withdraw? This would be an equivalent of:
20 sats / 5 video's = 4 sats/video.
1000 sats / 4 sats/video = 250 video's

The video's i let play were all a little over 10 minutes/piece, and i let them play completely, including the adds that play before the video start... So a better guess would be that i let them play for ~1 hour.

250 video's * 10 minutes/video = 2500 minutes = 41 hours.

So you'd have to watch porn non-stop for 41 hours to reach an amount you could potentially withdraw (about half an eurocent, not taking tx fees into account).

[LoyceV]

So you'd have to watch porn non-stop for 41 hours to reach an amount you could potentially withdraw (about half an eurocent, not taking tx fees into account).

I was curious about that indeed:

I would like to see some statistics about potential earnings from there.

And it explains why the site keeps quiet about the earnings. Nothing wrong with a 41 hour porn challenge, but at this rate you can just as well forget about the "earnings".

the funds we pay people come from us directly

I'm curious: how often have you sent an on-chain payment? AKA how many users completed the 41 hour challenge?

[TopTort777]

250 video's * 10 minutes/video = 2500 minutes = 41 hours.

So you'd have to watch porn non-stop for 41 hours to reach an amount you could potentially withdraw (about half an eurocent, not taking tx fees into account).

Hope this idea wont end with a suggestion "better deposit some btc to be able to withdraw your earning". Because I have a feeling, that one day this all will end with running away with all users deposited crypto.

And looks like faucets are still better. Watching "about 50.000 video's to reach 1€." in insane. Any device will eat same equivalent of electricity during this 50000 vid marathon.

[Pornhash]

So you'd have to watch porn non-stop for 41 hours to reach an amount you could potentially withdraw (about half an eurocent, not taking tx fees into account).

Wrong the site pays out more than this usually. Remember, earning are dynamic. Currently, the site is paying 0.00001 BCH= USD 0.006233 with a couple views. Everything is based on traffic. That is why its so difficult to pinpoint how much one can earn when things can change in a second

[mocacinno]

So you'd have to watch porn non-stop for 41 hours to reach an amount you could potentially withdraw (about half an eurocent, not taking tx fees into account).

Wrong the site pays out more than this usually. Remember, earning are dynamic. Currently, the site is paying 0.00001 BCH= USD 0.006233 with a couple views. Everything is based on traffic. That is why its so difficult to pinpoint how much one can earn when things can change in a second

Well... earnings might be dynamic, i'm just explaining how much i watched and how much BCH is in my account... Wich is 0.0000002 BCH (20 sat's) for watching 5 videos... It's possible that other people will earn more, or less depending on parameters you've set, i'm defenately not disputing this. The fact of the matter still remains that this is what i got.

Just to be fair to you, i'll leave my cellphone on again this evening or tomorrow and let it stream 3 or 4 more video's and report earnings afterwards... It's true that one measurement might not be enough to base conclusions on.

Each to his own tough, you're more than welcome to do whatever you want, it's your site anyway

[Pornhash]

Hope this idea wont end with a suggestion "better deposit some btc to be able to withdraw your earning". Because I have a feeling, that one day this all will end with running away with all users deposited crypto.

See my other comment correcting the earnings.

And no, users will NEVER have to deposit any amount to withdraw! What you see is what you get. We're not trying to scam anyone. I understand this is crypto and many things can end up being a scam. But we haven't done anything to dispel any trust besides being new and giving free bch away i guess.

[Pornhash]

Just to be fair to you, i'll leave my cellphone on again this evening or tomorrow and let it stream 3 or 4 more video's and report earnings afterwards... It's true that one measurement might not be enough to base conclusions on.

Very fair. There seems to be an overall "is this real" kinda-thing. Got an email today asking if its legit lol. At this rate im more worried people trusting the site than other concerns.

[FinneysTrueVision]

--snip--

I've heard that at Doge's last ATH. But one may be able to convert/exchange to another coin of preference before withdrawing.
The point was to use a way to show the users they are earning something, anything more than 0. And the more expensive coins are not suitable for that.

At a second thought, another direction could be to show more (10? 12? 15?) digits after the decimal point for a "cheaper to withdraw" coin.

Well, as an addendum to my test:  a while after "watching" a couple of video's on my phone (in reality, i just pushed "play" on 4 or 5 video's and let them play while i was working on my laptop in the meantime) i received a mail from the site that i got an incoming "transaction".
Now, i know those payouts probably aren't all that high, but i still was disspointed with 20 satoshi's (that is, BCH satoshi's, at an exchange rate of ~540€/BCH)... I mean, that's an equivalent of 0.00011€, and those video's played for at least 40 minutes... So you'd have to watch about 50.000 video's to reach 1€.

I still think it's a good idear the OP has, but at the moment i don't think i'll be a regular visitor, the amount of video's on the site is lower than the amount of video's that i'd need to watch to scrape together 1€.

Anyways, @OP: good luck with your project.

That's much worse than a faucet. Freebitco.in pays about 4 sats per claim but the price of BTC is 71x higher than BCH and they also have other ways of getting free BTC like the wheel of fortune, interest on your balance, and the premium program.

Even if Pornhash had better payouts they would be plagued by the same issues that have killed most faucets, like people abusing them by using bots and creating multiple accounts.

[noorman0]

That's much worse than a faucet.

If you are dedicated in faucet earnings, then yes, that's worse. The most consumptive use of internet quota is video content. Not bad at all I think, the fact that porn hobbyists don't really think about the time and cost of the internet. And the OP's site still cares a little about hobbyists internet costs.

Freebitco.in pays about 4 sats per claim but the price of BTC is 71x higher than BCH and they also have other ways of getting free BTC like the wheel of fortune, interest on your balance, and the premium program.

That's an unfair comparison. Think first about the age and popularity of the two sites.

[Pornhash]

If you are dedicated in faucet earnings, then yes, that's worse. The most consumptive use of internet quota is video content. Not bad at all I think, the fact that porn hobbyists don't really think about the time and cost of the internet. And the OP's site still cares a little about hobbyists internet costs.

Thanks for getting it. Faucets are not something people WANT to do for fun. If you already watch porn everyday and enjoy it then icing on the cake. We have returning users already who just simply enjoy beating off and getting a little coin.

Some of you guys just might not be the target audience and thats okay.

[mocacinno]

So, like i promised, i tried letting some video's play in the background again... This time for >1,5 hours... I ended up getting about 10.000 cashtoshi's. Much more than the first time, so it does indeed seem like there is no direct correlation between the number of videos, the time spent and the payout.

I wanted to review the withdrawal process aswell (having 10k cashtoshi's) when i noticed the following: are you really using a 300.000 cashtoshi fixed fee? Really? Why? Your users will have to watch > 60 hours just to afford the transaction fee...

BCH has blocks up to 32 Mb, it's very rare to see one that includes more than a couple hundred transactions... I have to go quite some blocks back to see one that is bigger than 5 Mb. There simply is no need to pay more than 1 sat/byte, while you are paying > 1000 sat/byte (unless you're aggregating hundreds of small, unspent outputs, but still a block can only contain 32Mb of data, and you're paying for a 300 Mb transaction @ 1 sat/byte... And the odds are you won't be allowed to broadcast such a transaction anyways).

Why don't you use dynamic fees? I can only assume you're running a node to handle payouts? doesn't bch have the 'estimatsmartfee' json-rpc call? If you don't have a node running, i'd probably go for a 2 input, 2 output tx => ~400 bytes = 400 cashtoshi fee (at 1 cashtoshi/byte).


Fun fact: did you know the BCH "owners" at one time tried to implement a forced tax of >10% on their miners, promising to exclude miners that didn't pay the tax? I wouldn't overpay on fees, especially not for BCH

[LoyceV]

I wanted to review the withdrawal process aswell (having 10k cashtoshi's) when i noticed the following: are you really using a 300.000 cashtoshi fixed fee? Really? Why? Your users will have to watch > 60 hours just to afford the transaction fee...

I guess this is the reason:

our provider we use has a fee in place that charges a bit more

Why don't you use dynamic fees?

For BCH, I'd only pay the minimum fee. That should be enough for many years to come.

I have some suggestions: get rid of whatever payment provider you're using, setup your own payment system, set a certain minimum to withdraw (say 0.0001 BCH), and pay the (small) transaction fee (0.000002xx BCH) by yourself. That makes it much more customer friendly, while it doesn't add much costs.

[Pornhash]

I have some suggestions: get rid of whatever payment provider you're using, setup your own payment system, set a certain minimum to withdraw (say 0.0001 BCH),

This is exactly what we're working on. The system in place is only temporary. I consider it absolute robbery from the provider but we needed a quick set up. Won't be too long until we have relatively fee-less withdraws.  This is very much the 'MVP' stage to see if people actually use the service and return.

Thanks for all the suggestions and feedback so far guys. I'll make sure to make an update here for the next version of Phash.