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August 28, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
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which country are you from?  as long as you are connected to the internet, don't worry about the site being banned.

They can order ISPs to block the game's website if there is such. But these days everyone knows how to bypass such bans with a VPN. But if people convert their crypto gains through centralized exchanges, the government might have a chance to tax people. because centralized exchanges do KYC and might be forced to report on their user's trading activities.

that's right, banned sites now are a waste because everyone can use VPN well, the government doesn't have a strong lock on our freedom on the internet anymore.

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August 28, 2021, 09:26:17 PM
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this goes back to government policy and when it happens then we can't do anything but the policy must of course be accompanied by clear reasons because it is impossible for the government to prohibit without a clear policy.
  and if in your country now you have started trying to implement rules like this, it seems that all forms of NFT games and NFT farming may also definitely be affected. because this is definitely the reason to return to crypto and everything that contains crypto elements must have a tax (if you look at the government system from the thread you said).
the possibility is very high that it can happen in your country and if this happens you must be prepared with all the consequences and possibilities that will happen even if the possibility is the worst.

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August 28, 2021, 09:36:47 PM
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The question is, to what extent will the state really want to do this?
There are "totalitarian" ways, there are quite "civilized" ones.
An example of "totalitarian" solutions is full control of the network and traffic, such as in North Korea, China, etc. The state obliges backbone and local providers to monitor traffic (DPM systems, etc.), identify specified "markers" and provide information about such violators
An example of "civilized" solutions. If the gaming platform is official and operates in the legal field, the state fiscal system, through international regulatory bodies, may require the platform owners to either restrict access to the platform for citizens of their country, or request KYC data regarding players with registration from the country of interest. ..

I think there are many more methods to "identify" such players, but it all depends on the level of interest.

I can fully agree with you here. The easier route how to track these players is to communicate with the gaming platform itself. Because there are many workaround how to access a site if the government ban the site on their country. So to address the situation directly, they need to directly collaborate with the gaming provider itself. But do you really think this gaming platform will require KYC to their clients? Because that's the only way to know if the player is residing in a specific country or not.
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August 28, 2021, 10:32:24 PM
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They cannot. As you know, transferring crypto assets can be done easily and exchange it with another crypto.
that's right, banned sites now are a waste because everyone can use VPN well, the government doesn't have a strong lock on our freedom on the internet anymore.
Another thing, this is true. If they ban websites and they're trying to avoid their people accessing it, it's no brainer that everyone is aware of the existence of VPNs.

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August 29, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
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I live in a country where porn is banned. So this doesn't sound much impractical. It is entirely another topic whether such bans can be implemented or not. Here everyone is using VPN to access banned sites and so far the government hasn't been able to do much about it. And I guess crypto-games are much lower in priority for the regime. In most of the third world countries, the governments have a habit of trying to control the population. They want to decide what the people watch, eat and invest. And trust me, I am not residing in a socialist nation (at least as per the official classification).
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August 29, 2021, 02:32:11 PM
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The question is, to what extent will the state really want to do this?
There are "totalitarian" ways, there are quite "civilized" ones.
An example of "totalitarian" solutions is full control of the network and traffic, such as in North Korea, China, etc. The state obliges backbone and local providers to monitor traffic (DPM systems, etc.), identify specified "markers" and provide information about such violators
An example of "civilized" solutions. If the gaming platform is official and operates in the legal field, the state fiscal system, through international regulatory bodies, may require the platform owners to either restrict access to the platform for citizens of their country, or request KYC data regarding players with registration from the country of interest. ..

I think there are many more methods to "identify" such players, but it all depends on the level of interest.

I can fully agree with you here. The easier route how to track these players is to communicate with the gaming platform itself. Because there are many workaround how to access a site if the government ban the site on their country. So to address the situation directly, they need to directly collaborate with the gaming provider itself. But do you really think this gaming platform will require KYC to their clients? Because that's the only way to know if the player is residing in a specific country or not.

As I understand it, we are taking the "civilized option"?
Let's just say - an example with KUTs, this is one of the options. Conventionally, the "state" can ask for a list of IP addresses, from the global address space corresponding to their country, they can force providers to provide information about everyone who directly accesses the [ l i s t of resources]. Believe me - in this case there is no goal to "catch" 100% of the players, it will be enough to catch and severely punish 10%, and report it so that almost all of the remaining 90% refuse themselves, weighing the risks ...

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August 29, 2021, 02:42:07 PM
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It's just that the government is greedy who only wants to take advantage of financial resources from any sector, even such a government only makes rules to take other people's finances that are not generated from agricultural taxes.
Believe that the government is not very objective in taking profits, considering that there is a new crypto sector that is present in the game, then making it a revenue target. This is not a rule that they must apply, but a lack of funds.

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August 29, 2021, 02:56:42 PM
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The government can easily ban the NFT games by collaborating with the ISP provider and block the connection. But people can use VPN to access the game or the provider to playing and earn money from the NFT games and nothing can stop them. I think the government will try to chase the tax from people because people can make a lot of money and the government will not let that happen without getting benefits.

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August 29, 2021, 11:36:23 PM
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Right now, Government of my country is in a process of trying to track players/account holders of a one crypto game to ask for tax because of fast and good earning rate, and I think it's not possible. So in my conclusion if they can't tracked players, is there a possibility of a country to ban this NFT game? I want to know everyone's opinion.
You need to understand that most the time politicians do not really know what they're talking about, it is impossible that they are experts on every single topic in which they pass different laws, as such it is entirely possible that they approve legislation that bans or prohibits cryptocurrencies, however the problem is going to be the implementation of such legislation.

So as long as you have taken the right precautions you have nothing to worry about, however it is fair to wonder if it's worth to break the law of your country by keep doing that activity as long as the law is in place.

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The government can easily ban the NFT games by collaborating with the ISP provider and block the connection. But people can use VPN to access the game or the provider to playing and earn money from the NFT games and nothing can stop them. I think the government will try to chase the tax from people because people can make a lot of money and the government will not let that happen without getting benefits.

How can the government "easily ban" games, when you yourself state that using a VPN this ban can be removed? The government needs to understand that the world has become smaller as a result of internet penetration. What they need to do is to lower the tax rates or make the tax levels more reasonable. Nowadays people are more rebellious, and they see no point in paying 50% or 60% of their income in the form of taxes (both direct and indirect ones). If the tax rates are reasonable, then the population will pay their dues without any compulsion from the government.

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August 30, 2021, 04:54:22 AM
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Of course, they could proclaim a ban.

However, whether or not the ban actually has an effect is a different topic for discussion altogether. It is impossible for them to actually to shut down a decentralised network but totally possible for them to take something like Axie Infinity's site onto the banned list of websites.

This is true for pretty much all blockchain projects. Soft bans are always possible but at the same time circumventable.

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August 30, 2021, 09:59:43 AM
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Government can ban anything that they think is somehow not according to their rules and regulations and something that might cause them to loose their powers. When we are talking about the NFT games then you have to realize that, these games are usually something that people cannot trace 50% of the times and if someone does win and still tries to evade tax then it would have probelm for the overall community and not just that person alone.
I do think you should not think much about it and enjoy it as long as you are able to. Since if it gets banned there would honestly be nothing that can be done for a while, using VPN might not be a good idea, therefore I do think that they might reevaluate their decisions later on.

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August 30, 2021, 11:30:17 AM
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Can renting foreign servers escape the supervision of the local government?
Whether it can be banned depends on how the local law stipulates.
In my opinion, blockchain is popular in the world, and it is not easy to find project subjects.
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August 30, 2021, 03:32:30 PM
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Right now, Government of my country is in a process of trying to track players/account holders of a one crypto game to ask for tax because of fast and good earning rate, and I think it's not possible. So in my conclusion if they can't tracked players, is there a possibility of a country to ban this NFT game? I want to know everyone's opinion.
Banning of cryptocurrency games is the best for a country to do maybe because of tax issues but I know they'll have the power to do such. It possible to restrict players that are playing the games but their is another way round players can tweak the restrictions by the use of VPN which can change the IP address of the player making it hard for it to be restricted.  Many gambling platforms have always escape tax payment by using different means to hide their activities from the government.

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August 31, 2021, 07:16:31 AM
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The state should not prohibit citizens from accessing encrypted games without reason.
When the game endangers the health of most citizens.
The state will take action to prohibit the use or access of this encrypted game.
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August 31, 2021, 08:22:10 PM
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Right now, Government of my country is in a process of trying to track players/account holders of a one crypto game to ask for tax because of fast and good earning rate, and I think it's not possible. So in my conclusion if they can't tracked players, is there a possibility of a country to ban this NFT game? I want to know everyone's opinion.
They can ban a website? But I am not sure if they can ban a game as a whole. Think about it, in a game like axie infinity, many things are done via the game itself, and you need to play the game and access to the website in order to do it, but with a VPN all of the bans would be solved, many websites are illegal in many nations but we just use VPN and that's it, no problem at all.

This is why I believe that we should not be really worried all that much about a nation banning it as a whole. Sure it is still "banned" but that is not a bad thing, it is not a situation that we can't handle and which is why we should not be worried. At the end of the day so many things in digital world are out of nations hands that governments of the world could try their best but nothing will really happen. Look at wikileaks, that was banned in sooo many nations but it is still accessible.
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August 31, 2021, 10:38:57 PM
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Well for one taxation on a decentralized system like cryptocurrencies would be hard if not outright impossible. The fact that the transactions itself is nigh-untraceable already speaks for itself. Then again what a government can do is have ISPs operating within their country impose website restrictions on key sites where cryptocurrencies mostly operate, but this will be counterintuitive since what they want to happen is to tax let's say a cryptocurrency game. So they're basically in a deadlock situation where they ought to allow these games to be operable within their territories without tax until they find a surefire way to do so.
The state should not prohibit citizens from accessing encrypted games without reason.
When the game endangers the health of most citizens.
The state will take action to prohibit the use or access of this encrypted game.
The government will make all kinds of excuses to impose these bans and will mask it as reasons. We cannot do anything about this type of scenario but what we can do though is to stand up against malpractice within the confines of the government. If you think taxing or imposing a ban on cryptocurrency games is unjustified then there should be protests and movements that the people who support the operation of cryptocurrency games and cryptocurrencies in general are to make to ensure that their voices are heard, lest these efforts will all be wasted.



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August 31, 2021, 11:26:16 PM
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The state should not prohibit citizens from accessing encrypted games without reason.
When the game endangers the health of most citizens.
The state will take action to prohibit the use or access of this encrypted game.

Depending on rampant of such problem but if it turns out to be on normal scale then it wouldnt really be that much of a problem since there would be no prohibition or something like that.

Just like here on my country where gambling operators that do came from other countries is allowed to operate here as long they would be regulated or licensed.

There are countries which do ban access or simply the sites are making restrictions due to law issues or regulation on each country.

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August 31, 2021, 11:51:54 PM
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If they ban cryptocurrencies as a whole then they can do that. But knowing that it's a game and people makes money from it, they can put a ban but that will stop people from playing it? no.

There's still a lot of things that the governments should know about the adoption of cryptocurrencies it includes these NFT games and other crowd funding that they've been cracking but how many of those they did really stopped?

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September 03, 2021, 01:01:57 AM
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The government can easily ban the NFT games by collaborating with the ISP provider and block the connection. But people can use VPN to access the game or the provider to playing and earn money from the NFT games and nothing can stop them. I think the government will try to chase the tax from people because people can make a lot of money and the government will not let that happen without getting benefits.

So I think, totally, because the only thing they can do is also take advantage of the boom, that is, now with all the possibilities that are coming out of those NFT games, governments can demand that gamers have to pay taxes, it is the most they can do, as they are doing in the Philippines, although I will never agree with this type of controls, blockchain technology and everything that has to do with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will never have access to governments and banks, because those are the agencies of control worldwide where they do not allow financial freedom, debt must always exist for them to benefit.

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