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September 03, 2021, 05:41:28 PM
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Aside from some bad apples who get their jollies by hunting down rule breakers, the Forum culture is NOT to kill all newbies - it is to educate them.
I'm not sure who you're referring to by the rule-breaker hunters, but I don't think scam busters or those who sniff out plagiarism are bad apples at all.  If we didn't have members looking out for stuff like that, it would be rampant.  It already is rampant, and as far as plagiarism goes (since that's one of the biggest problems and one that will get a member permanently banned), it should be something every member ought to know not to do.

I tend to agree with you about the newer generation and how they use social media and how it might relate to the way they use this site, except that many new members of the forum come here just to get involved in sig campaigns and bounties, and not only are they not interested in technical discussions, they're not even interested in expressing much of anything.  The result is a lot of generic posts that repeat thoughts/ideas, are poorly written, and don't contribute anything to whatever the topic of a thread is.  I'm not sure how much you can educate those kind of members.

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September 03, 2021, 06:25:49 PM
Last edit: September 03, 2021, 09:36:55 PM by NotFuzzyWarm
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Aside from some bad apples who get their jollies by hunting down rule breakers, the Forum culture is NOT to kill all newbies - it is to educate them.
I'm not sure who you're referring to by the rule-breaker hunters, but I don't think scam busters or those who sniff out plagiarism are bad apples at all.  If we didn't have members looking out for stuff like that, it would be rampant.  It already is rampant, and as far as plagiarism goes (since that's one of the biggest problems and one that will get a member permanently banned), it should be something every member ought to know not to do.
Was not referring to scam busters et al. Ja, they are actually a rather vital group of folks needed here to keep some semblance of sanity in the Forum.  Wink
I was referring to a few folks who I've come across that seem to think it is their mission in life to hunt down newbs and ridicule them vs trying to teach them the errors of their ways.

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... and not only are they not interested in technical discussions, they're not even interested in expressing much of anything.  The result is a lot of generic posts that repeat thoughts/ideas, are poorly written, and don't contribute anything to whatever the topic of a thread is.  I'm not sure how much you can educate those kind of members.
Ja. It is a sad reflection of today's culture. Folks today have easy access to technologies that were undreamed of just a few decades ago yet have no interest at all in what led to them nor even the basics of how they actually work...  Cry

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September 03, 2021, 09:49:47 PM
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Was not referring to scam busters et al. Ja, they are actually a rather vital group of folks needed here to keep some semblance of sanity in the Forum.  Wink
I was referring to a few folks who I've come across that seem to think it is their mission in life to hunt down newbs and ridicule them vs trying to teach them the errors of their ways.
I guess this is what you get when you combine passion for a forum, various different personalities, and the ways of earning money from something you're passionate about. Unfortunately, this has led to a culture that is quite hostile to newbies, whether it's intentional or simply because users have become fed up with the amount of abusers, and account farmers on the forum, the result is the same; it scares away legitimate users.

At least, taking away from your other remarks, scares away a particular demographic; i.e usually of the older generation. Since, it appears that the internet in general is a toxic breeding ground, and when you sprinkle in a little bit of anonymity people usually say, and act more maliciously than they would in person. Social media has seemed to exaggerate this, and is common among the younger generations.

I've talked to it before, I like to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible, but that's quite  difficult at times, and while I don't completely blame those for automatically being suspicious of new users due to the nature of the forum, and well the nature of people themselves. I do wish we were a little more welcoming overall.  

I touched upon this indirectly above, but I would like to put emphasis on this; I don't think this is a particularly toxic place when you compare it to other social medias, and other discussion forums, but rather it's due to the shift in culture, and the factor of being pseudonymous.
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September 04, 2021, 05:06:36 AM
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The wall of text is utterly amazing but altcoin shilling in Meta is major cringe. Say what you want about being nasty to newbies however the OP isn't really a newbie anymore and after all this drama should really know better. I don't think we need more ignorant shitcoining on this forum.
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September 04, 2021, 05:44:04 AM
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Hey man, seriously, you are in a forum, nobody is going to read such a wall. In other forums, not so worried about quality, you would receive a lot of responses to this post, along the lines of: "didn't read, lol."

For my part, and said a little jokingly, if I were the dictator of this forum, I would put you a temporary ban of one week for such a wall.

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September 04, 2021, 08:22:28 AM
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Hey man, seriously, you are in a forum, nobody is going to read such a wall. In other forums, not so worried about quality, you would receive a lot of responses to this post, along the lines of: "didn't read, lol."

For my part, and said a little jokingly, if I were the dictator of this forum, I would put you a temporary ban of one week for such a wall.

I reported his post as a double post. He probably wants everyone to hear him. But RainbowKun, you should not do this, especially since writing on this topic also approaches the wording "off-topic." Since the topic is not about you. There is an active topic in which you are arguing about your personality and the army that accompanies you.

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