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September 01, 2021, 06:24:47 AM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
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It's the same.

Even if with religion or none, there will always be those people that wants to be at the top and they'll find a way to be there and sometimes that way is brutal.



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September 01, 2021, 08:58:47 AM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
A world without a religion doesn't make the world a better place. Religion plays a big role in our society. It doesn't matter if they take it too seriously or not, what you need to do is to respect them. We have our own beliefs and stuff. Having a religion can also be good to the community since people learn about the sins they commited and atone.

My point is whether there's a religion or not the world is still the same however having a religion has benefits may it be to yourself or to the environment around you. It can help you a lot.

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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.

When early Homo sapiens communities were forming religions and common myths served a very important role.  They unified communities behind common goals and provided rules to govern those communities and societies.

Today, we have developed more sophisticated secular systems to govern ourselves.  And those systems are far superior to systems based on religions because they can change as more information becomes available. 

Religious systems of governance are static and in some cases illogical because they are unable to change with the modern world.

Today, religions are regressive, they try to hang on to their archaic knowledge in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 

The world would be a much better place if we abandoned these ancient myths.

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When early Homo sapiens communities were forming religions and common myths served a very important role.  They unified communities behind common goals and provided rules to govern those communities and societies.

Today, we have developed more sophisticated secular systems to govern ourselves.  And those systems are far superior to systems based on religions because they can change as more information becomes available.  

Religious systems of governance are static and in some cases illogical because they are unable to change with the modern world.

Today, religions are regressive, they try to hang on to their archaic knowledge in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  

The world would be a much better place if we abandoned these ancient myths.

100% agree. and has always been my thought. early religion was government. the bible is the lawbook of ancient times.
as an example back before condoms. the laws stopped gay-sex, out of wedlock sex to prevend STI's/STD's

these days those old rules dont apply as technology and knowledge and stuff have taken over those barbaric laws of promoting death for having sex under those conditions.

modern religion is more psychological. for those that cannot understand nature and random events. people that become anxious/depressed over things they cannot understand. religion fills that gap by putting a face to the event. kind of like shift the blame to the special entity you cant sue.
EG if you feel guilty of something, its suppose to absolve your guilt by making your subconscious believe you should blame god instead of yourself. then you can let go of your grief/guilt and lead a happy in life, free from torturing yourself

this has then become abused to then really shift the blame.. as an excuse.  and be used by idiots to actually perform atrocities and crimes thinking they can get away with it because 'special entity in space'

i dont mind the small psychological therapy methodology to get over guilt/grief for personal growth and happiness. but when its used to the extremes of being used to cause bad crap to happen, as the excuse.. then religion has steeped too far into society

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No traditional or heavenly religion supports iniquity that is why most of the people of the world respect the scriptures as holy scriptures. The main reason for this reality is that in the country at the time in the region where religion began to infiltrate the culture social reality and education of the people in that country at that time the real position of knowledge and glory had to depend on how helpful religion was. For that reason the nation that was lagging behind in education had to face more and more difficulties in establishing religion religious rule exists in every society.
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September 01, 2021, 04:07:25 PM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious

here in this section there is a guy who is very attached to religion in such a way that his brain is simply in another dimension, with the discovery of covid he turned all his attention to campaigning against vaccines, I don't know if this is also due to religion have affected him too much, I'm very surprised he hasn't commented on this thread yet, has he not seen this thread yet? Shocked but he is always active on this forum, I can give you a hint who I'm talking about:

- Is the second guy who posts the most on the forum and that incredibly he only posts in this section, with some exceptions he sometimes posts in other sections

but kidding aside, I think religion is a very complicated topic, no one can prove anything that is written in the bible, but incredibly people believe and churches are getting richer every year

Would the world be a better place without religion?

even if had no religion, there will always be another cancer in the world for people to be deceived, just see that we still have politicians who are one more cancer that deceive people, there will always be something that will manipulate most people

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September 01, 2021, 05:06:14 PM
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Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
I actually think the world would be a better place without religion, but that's not to say religion has no role to play in society or that it has not played any role previously, but presently most people hardly understand what the actual tenets of their religious beliefs is, some even go as far as given it their own interpretation and meaning, and more often than not it becomes skewed. The argument of religion v science is one very good example to talk about this, if we're to be honest we live in a world were science has solves quite a lot of problems in our contemporary society today, while science deals on pure facts, religion is more about believing without even seeing, and it just gives humans a sense of hope, thus we can more or less say 'science is our new religion'.

But even at that, most people are still adamant and have refused to adapt and grow with many of this scientific discoveries, many of them even feel science is evil in our world today, but they use vehicles, machines and other things produced out of scientific discoveries, the issue of how humans actually came on the face of the earth has actually caused heated arguments between people who believe in a supreme being and people who subscribe to scientific researches, while the former feels we were created by a supreme being, the later believes in the Darwian theory of evolution, or the big bang theory or any discovery made in the area of how humans came to be.

I think religion has to a large extent limited quite a lot of people to ask rational questions, to take bold steps into making researches, sometimes people actually doubt most of their religious beliefs, but they just lie to themselves and hide the truth from their own self, I feel many people would have contributed to the development of the world through science if there were no religion and that to a large extent continues to limit societal growth and development.

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September 02, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.

Religion have contributed to the world. Everybody can't be the same in the society. There are good and bad people, religion have changed so many life. Religion teaches about correction and good life

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I think that religion in some point of human evolution has its specific meaning (and nowadays this meaning is often misinterpretated). Later, religions was abused for political intentions of individuals who wanted to gain power. Today, religion (in its ordinary meaning) is just a relic and has been replaced (as mentioned by Coyster) by science. Ofcourse, representative of some old-style religions do anything to survive, because the religion is a source of income for them. But religions as sources of political power will end one day (hard to say when).
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September 02, 2021, 01:52:04 PM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion.
No, the world will only be a better place if every human learns to love each other and also learn how to forgive and forget cause we all make mistakes which is what makes us human.

Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you.
It all has to do with personal understanding and maturity, not religion cause the last time I check almost every religion preaches love so tell me why would anyone think of having nothing to do with her neighbor because they are not of the same religion though we have a situation where some religion misled their followers and make them do that but it's still have to do with personal understanding and maturity.

Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
No, it will be worse and chaos.

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Man has an understanding and fear of death. This means that most have to create or believe in a god and associated religion.

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Man has an understanding and fear of death. This means that most have to create or believe in a god and associated religion.

I cannot say I do not agree, but sometimes I fool around with idea that (some) religions even tighten fear of death. Then classical chicken-and-egg question comes to mind... What do you think?

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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
Religion is nothing but to form a community among humans, if there is no religions then people will be grouped under multiple things so the groups will be too high so in future the religions may come under the one religion which is humanity.
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September 02, 2021, 07:41:27 PM
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Has region not play any role in our society.

Religion has played and still plays a huge role in society. The same as other non-religious ideologies (communism, nationalism...) it helps to shape one's view of the world, unites and separates people, affects to values and culture, and directs power. One can be religious or not, the same as he can be capitalist or not, but we can't neglect that religion and capitalism play a big role.




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September 02, 2021, 09:46:52 PM
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
I'm against religions and also an Atheist myself. They were formed in order to explain basic common knowledge, which could be proved using science. Stephen Hawking had said, that there's no way to prove that God doesn't exist, however, science makes believing in God pointless.

In my opinion, religions sparked a lot of hatred between nations (Or other religions) and were the main cause of war. (See Jihad, as a modern example, or Crusades)

The world would definitely be a better place without them.

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September 04, 2021, 03:48:52 AM
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There are different religions in the world,but their differences and indifferences have caused problem in one way or the other.
The ability to tolerate each of other's behaviour is termed religious tolerant,and it is this tolerant that had been able to make the society today be in peace with each other,even after knowing that it is not everybody that share the same religion.
But when intolerance comes in,that is when there is chaos in the society.The inability of a religion to tolerate another religion is known as religious intolerance.
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September 04, 2021, 04:11:07 AM
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Man has an understanding and fear of death. This means that most have to create or believe in a god and associated religion.

.. thats like saying only immortals dont have to believe in god...
.. but then as an immortal. are they then god themselves

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jokes aside
but rationally. its actually those that DONT have an understanding of death, that need it most to create a god to try explaining away the things they cant understand

[spoiler]
when you die. your 'essence' 'soul' does not re-manifest or become reborn
your energy does not float about into space and as a consciousness with wings and a halo
instead your energy(sugars and proteins of your corpse) rot/sit as 'potential energy' which other things(maggots, worms,bacteria) then consume to power THEIR consciousness.. your consciousness is just gone. ended. finito. zero, nada. obliterated.

i say this because if people stop thinking of an afterlife. they may actually start caring about their current life
and not think "its ok if i F**k up this life, i can just get a free reset in the next one"
EG middle eastern suicide bombers would be less likely to agree to commit suicide if they knew there were not dozens of virgins waiting for them
EG western idiots would do less crimes if they knew they only had one life

the whole rhetoric of 'forgiveness, a full reset, a new life" gets used too much to excuse idiots and let them do things thinking they can always be forgiven.

the whole point of it was not as an excuse to be an idiot, continually and repeatedly. but instead. if you done a mistake and the remorse and guilt is torturing you beyond what is expected, then you can forgive yourself to ease your mind and allow you to learn from it and then lead a good life. in the current and only life

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September 04, 2021, 12:46:15 PM
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I'm against religions and also an Atheist myself. They were formed in order to explain basic common knowledge, which could be proved using science. Stephen Hawking had said, that there's no way to prove that God doesn't exist, however, science makes believing in God pointless.
This only applies if the science we are talking about is the well known "real science", but there is social science right now that makes believing in something, somehow increases the capability of a person. For some instances, it can somehow relieve someone from being alone and left-out.

In my opinion, religions sparked a lot of hatred between nations (Or other religions) and were the main cause of war. (See Jihad, as a modern example, or Crusades)
Don't state it "in opinion" when history states a lot of wars and battles due to differences in beliefs/religions. It is a fact.

The world would definitely be a better place without them.
If we use logic, there will be no world without actual religion. There will be atleast one (1) specific religion that a "ideal world" may have. Cause religion is something about a social construct that if someone believes into something, there is this enticing force that drives us to join what he believes in, and without contradicting force, we all will be force to believe in one same thing.

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September 04, 2021, 01:07:29 PM
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Funny enough, Religion in our society brought about most development in our countries and state, civilization likewise are some of the things religion has brought to us.
Education, Lifestyle, etc
But lately religion has been a mess you know, most people use religion for their own selfish interest....life with religion is something else, Life without it we wouldn't have been at this stage of life.

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