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September 20, 2021, 09:47:11 AM |
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my record 40 times in a row <49.5% Thats so unlikely, it shouldn't ever happen & if calculated using probability theory the odds would be like winning the lottery surely. Thats about 40 coin flips coming up heads, obviously if I was angry about the loss I'd just assume the game broke or was bugged in some way. It is true afaik that computers cannot generate random numbers by themselves, they require to source data from perhaps radioactive decay factors etc. I doubt thats being done for a dice game hence perhaps highly unlikely events. However if it occurs as loss, it might also appear as a win. Anyhow I think I prefer the crash game multiplier over dice, it always appears with bonkers results seems like. Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).
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September 20, 2021, 11:03:32 AM |
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I dont hear up any pvp type of dice because this game isnt how it works because most of the time you would really be fighting off against with the house and not against with other players.
Strategies are only good for making the game enjoyable and make it more longer but speaking with odds or chances then it is just the same.
I guess there is but not in an online casino, I also did not hear that games that there is a player vs a player who play dice. Most likely, they are against on the house edge. I don't know what is the theory behind the dice game if there is will I guess I dont know. But one thing that I am sure, it is not good to play dice with a player to player. A based on luck game is not appropriate on that not unless playing card which is common there is a PVP game. I think I see a player vs a player in a movie, especially in a China gambling movie. If I am not mistaken, the star is Stephen Chow, and I see that someone playing dice uses a bowl with the dice inside that bowl. And when the dice is stopped rolls, the house opens the bowl, and the number will come out. That will be the winner that takes the money. Maybe he wants to look for that game but we are not sure.
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As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.
At one time, Blaise Pascal developed the mathematical theory of dice. Blaise Pascal was a contemporary of the Musketeers. He was a guards officer, gambler, drunkard, and duelist. At the same time, he possessed outstanding mathematical abilities. At that time, dice was much more difficult than it is now. The players made bets among themselves. For example - one bet is on the fall of the "six", and the other is on the fact that with ten throws the "six" will not fall out even once. Blaise Pascal was interested in practice, not theory. He wanted to win big money. Therefore, he developed a mathematical theory of probability. However, at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice. The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.
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September 20, 2021, 12:58:38 PM |
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at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice.
Do you mean that everyone uses similar kind of strategy which might lead to unable to attain what we want, right? I am aware of Pascal in physics but not sure about that you are referring the same personality. It would be highly helpful if you would have linked some resources so that people who love to learn more about these kind of theory may refer further. The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.
This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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September 21, 2021, 07:47:53 AM |
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The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.
This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Lol, this sound like a statement that condones losing your gambles. With such mentality, you will continue to gambling everyday, hoping to reach the millionaire you've always wanted to be. And eventually, you become addicted to it and it'll be part of you to gamble daily with the mind that you could have been a millionaire. Gambling shouldn't be frequently unless you have luck a lot(yet, slow down and don't be greedy or you'll turn the luck into bad luck). It should be self-regulated, and well controlled before you become unable to control it.
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September 21, 2021, 09:18:09 AM |
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at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice.
Do you mean that everyone uses similar kind of strategy which might lead to unable to attain what we want, right? I am aware of Pascal in physics but not sure about that you are referring the same personality. It would be highly helpful if you would have linked some resources so that people who love to learn more about these kind of theory may refer further. The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.
This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Blaise Pascal was primarily a mathematician. Besides the theory of probability, he developed the principles of the calculator and invented the public transport (omnibus). Pascal is a great man. Genius. At the end of his life, he stopped doing scientific research. He was a very religious person. It was he who formulated the principle of the rationality of faith in God. For the believer, if God exists, the benefits are enormous. He goes to heaven. And if there is no God, then the loss is simply money and time spent on religious rituals. The theory of probability is currently a generally known theory. All gambling games are initially created taking into account the rules of the mathematical theory of probability. At the same time, the casino's profit is initially included in the gambling game. Therefore, knowledge of probability theory does not give the player an advantage when playing dice.
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September 21, 2021, 09:55:11 AM |
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Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.
But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?
Multiplayer dice? How would that work? You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number)
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my record 40 times in a row <49.5% Thats so unlikely, it shouldn't ever happen & if calculated using probability theory the odds would be like winning the lottery surely. Thats about 40 coin flips coming up heads, obviously if I was angry about the loss I'd just assume the game broke or was bugged in some way. It is true afaik that computers cannot generate random numbers by themselves, they require to source data from perhaps radioactive decay factors etc. I doubt thats being done for a dice game hence perhaps highly unlikely events. However if it occurs as loss, it might also appear as a win. Anyhow I think I prefer the crash game multiplier over dice, it always appears with bonkers results seems like. Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago). If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already.
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September 21, 2021, 01:54:08 PM |
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Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).
If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already. There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^ 40, this is one of 1099511627776 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 21, 2021, 04:32:27 PM |
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Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).
If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already. There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^ 40, this is one of 1099511627776 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Probability is a complex field, the calculations are not wrong however that is only true if you only played 40 times, the more you gamble the higher the probabilities that something that seems extraordinaire happens, for example lets use a simple deck of cards, what are the chances that the first 4 cards I draw are the 4 Aces on the deck? This can be easily calculated as (4/52)*(3/51)*(2/50)*(1/49)=1/270725, so it seems as something very unlikely right? But what if I do this one million times? In theory I should get this result at least 3 times, this is the same reason the martingale system does not work, and even if you did not played long enough to guarantee that result you probably played enough times to make the chances of that result way more likely than the odds you are seeing in that calculation.
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September 21, 2021, 06:17:38 PM |
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Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.
But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?
Multiplayer dice? How would that work? You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number) I guess he is talking about multiplier. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It depends on the probability we set before rolling the dice and in specific its about the percentage of winning the game so lower the chances then higher the rewards will be.
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September 21, 2021, 08:28:14 PM |
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Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.
But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?
Multiplayer dice? How would that work? You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number) Unless if its PvP then this one cant be called dice already because we couldnt see any kind of games to be like this on where players on dice would really trying out to compete to each other. Dice is against the house type of game and its just really need for you to set those odds or settings then let it roll.You are up against the house and not with other player. So if he's finding out for some multiplayer then he's isnt really finding out a dice game.
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September 21, 2021, 09:15:30 PM |
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There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^ 40, this is one of 1099511627776 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Probability is a complex field, the calculations are not wrong however that is only true if you only played 40 times, the more you gamble the higher the probabilities that something that seems extraordinaire happens, for example lets use a simple deck of cards, what are the chances that the first 4 cards I draw are the 4 Aces on the deck? This can be easily calculated as (4/52)*(3/51)*(2/50)*(1/49)=1/270725, so it seems as something very unlikely right? But what if I do this one million times? In theory I should get this result at least 3 times, this is the same reason the martingale system does not work, and even if you did not played long enough to guarantee that result you probably played enough times to make the chances of that result way more likely than the odds you are seeing in that calculation. You took short distances and everything seems simple here, but at long distances everything is different (just compare the odds that I calculated and the odds in your example - a huge difference). There is a mathematical formula that shows how many flips of a coin are needed to get a series of N of the same results: 2 N+1 − 2 In my case it would be: 2 41-2 = 2 199 023 255 550 I'm sure I haven't even made one billion bets, let alone trillions and quadrillions ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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