Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world

[herurist]

Sure they can "treat people freely", but most anti-vaxxers are very stubborn. They are against vaccination and don't want to get vaccinated. They encourage people not to take vaccines. Ok, we are fine with that. But then again, most of the anti-vaxxers are against wearing mask, going through quarantine or maintain any sort of social distance. According to them, everything is a hoax and a scare tactic used by the government to control the people. I mean how blind or stupid do you have to be to act like this?

maybe if likened it could be like this, you know about fire, you know the effect of burning fire that causes damage to the skin but there is a solution when you are burned by fire that is you have to keep the source of the fire away from around you, after that close your burn and give medicine so as not to inveksi and your wound so as not to inveksi.
but you deny this and say that when you are burned there is no point in treating and removing the source of the fire that is burning you.
I think that's a pretty stupid thing to do.

just as we now know that this virus exists, we know that many victims have died from this virus and we also know that the government and health units have made some kind of antidote in the hope of reducing the spread of the virus so that it does not spread. but still deny that this virus exists and think this is just a trick by the government to scare and vaccines are a tool from the government so that later there will be side effects on government experiments. this is so ridiculous.

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[wiss19]

There are way too many people in the world who are either anti-vaxx as a whole, or they just anti-covid vaxx basically, and that is the kind of trouble that we are living right now. For some reason, at one point in history vaccinations turned from something that saves lives to few people saying they are bad into a lot of people saying they are bad. How did something that saved lives of millions upon millions of people suddenly started to see by some people as something that is bad is beyond me. But, the reality is that without vaccination, covid would have been so much worse, so much worse.

The number of people in my nation that became ill enough to stay in hospital from covid is huge. 50%+ of it was people who had no vaccination, 30% or so was from people with 2 sinovac, only 1.1% was from 3 sinovac, 0.5% or so was from 2 biontech. This is a good enough stat to convince me. However, these people see these stats and either say it is a lie, or they say covid was created so that they could sell these vaccinations and make money.. like that makes sense? I mean okay, even if they did something so horrible, I still want that vaccination so that I do not die, the reason is unimportant the result is you die without it.

[BITCOIN4X]

Unfortunately there are way too many people who are dumb enough to think that they are actually the smart ones. That's not a joke, people who do not get vaccination believes that they are the smart people. Because, we get vaccinated and "do not ask any questions about it", they assume that we did absolutely zero research about it and just accepted it because government told us to get it, they do not realize that we did our research and found it very beneficial to get it.

Hence, because they do not get it and because so many people do get it, they assume that they are the smart ones who realize what's wrong. In reality they do not realize they are the idiots who cause the world to still be in this mess, if they weren't acting like this then the world would become a good place by now.

People who fear receiving doses of vaccines are those who believe in the frightening effects of vaccines in the short and long term. The Covid-19 vaccine is still in the pilot stage and its effectiveness as a prevention of viral infection and also as a chain breaker may have varying success rates depending on the type of drug used. The most feared short term effect of vaccines is sudden death and that is the reason most people refuse to be vaccinated.

However, in my opinion, there are still cases of transmission for those who receive the full dose if they are more often exposed to people with covid so that the dose obtained cannot make their body 100% immune to the virus. Recipients of the vaccine dose can still spread the virus if they don't take care of their bodies and clothes. Vaccines will only reduce the rate of transmission of the virus and will not eliminate the virus forever. So it's up to them whether they want to accept it or not because human rights also need to be considered. Never force a frightened person, they may be more susceptible to short term effects because of their fear. But let them take it when they need it because the government is starting to limit the access of people who do not receive a dose of vaccine to get public services in government institutions.

[matchi2011]

There are way too many people in the world who are either anti-vaxx as a whole, or they just anti-covid vaxx basically, and that is the kind of trouble that we are living right now. For some reason, at one point in history vaccinations turned from something that saves lives to few people saying they are bad into a lot of people saying they are bad. How did something that saved lives of millions upon millions of people suddenly started to see by some people as something that is bad is beyond me. But, the reality is that without vaccination, covid would have been so much worse, so much worse.

The number of people in my nation that became ill enough to stay in hospital from covid is huge. 50%+ of it was people who had no vaccination, 30% or so was from people with 2 sinovac, only 1.1% was from 3 sinovac, 0.5% or so was from 2 biontech. This is a good enough stat to convince me. However, these people see these stats and either say it is a lie, or they say covid was created so that they could sell these vaccinations and make money.. like that makes sense? I mean okay, even if they did something so horrible, I still want that vaccination so that I do not die, the reason is unimportant the result is you die without it.

Better than nothing, I mean like what you have said, I also take the vaccine instead of risking my life.
The stats showing the possibilities of surviving once you have the vaccines is fair enough to gamble in taking the shots.
If there are still people believes that Covid was created to scare people then let them think that way, it's more wise to
take your action and separate yourself from the possibilities of getting infected and continue surviving.

[jaysabi]

That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.

The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be, this is a classic case of individual rights and what society expects out of you, I have taken the vaccine and I would appreciate if the majority took the vaccine as well, but if you force people to take the vaccine then you are trampling on their rights, so the question is as what point society can do something like this and void the right to decide that people have over their own bodies? And this is not by any means an easy debate to have.

We infringe individual rights all the time in the pursuit of living in a society that isn't complete chaos because everyone can just do whatever they want in the name of "personal freedom."  You have to pay taxes, you can't make threats against other people, you can't drive as fast as you want or wherever you want, employer's have to create a safe work environment for employees, etc.  Each of these is an example of an infringement on an individual's rights to live how they want, but we accept these because they help create a society worth living in.  Vaccine mandates are just another example.  So the issue isn't "we shouldn't do this because it infringes a right" because we already do that all the time without controversy.  The issue is "should we infringe this right because it makes society substantially better."

[terrorJR]

The number of people in my nation that became ill enough to stay in hospital from covid is huge. 50%+ of it was people who had no vaccination, 30% or so was from people with 2 sinovac, only 1.1% was from 3 sinovac, 0.5% or so was from 2 biontech. This is a good enough stat to convince me. However, these people see these stats and either say it is a lie, or they say covid was created so that they could sell these vaccinations and make money.. like that makes sense? I mean okay, even if they did something so horrible, I still want that vaccination so that I do not die, the reason is unimportant the result is you die without it.

Better than nothing, I mean like you said, I'm also taking vaccines rather than risking my life surviving indefinitely in lockdown.
Looking at the existing data, it is a fact that people who have been vaccinated can at least reduce the effects of the spread of the existing virus.

[Gyfts]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

[Sithara007]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

Almost 5 million deaths till now (99% of them unvaccinated), and you still think that mandatory vaccination is a bad idea? And I disagree with your first part. Whether someone else get vaccinated or not will have a big impact on me. If people in my neighborhood are vaccinated, it will reduce the spread of the pandemic by 95% or more. In my country, only 14% of the population has been completely vaccinated till now. And here on average 200-400 deaths are being reported everyday. I would say that the government is struggling to contain the pandemic, because large sections of the population are refusing to get vaccinated.

[fullhdpixel]

Most people that have not had any of the vaccines have not had a strong reason to, that's why they are being hypocrites of some sorts.

I too hate such people who don't have a strong reason to not get vaccinated but still spreading hate about vaccination. I respect anyone who doesn't want to get vaccinated but spreading hate and false information is really a plague mentality.

Imagine getting your dream job or finally getting a visa to go to your dream country and its a strong criteria to have been vaccinated or have had at least a shot?

It's more like karma to me than anything else. Imagine spreading lies about vaccination your whole life only to get denied a dream job because of it. I am not sure why there are so many conspiracies against vaccination when these guys were insulting the government's inability to fight the virus spread initially.

[Rasa nanas]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

Almost 5 million deaths till now (99% of them unvaccinated), and you still think that mandatory vaccination is a bad idea? And I disagree with your first part. Whether someone else get vaccinated or not will have a big impact on me. If people in my neighborhood are vaccinated, it will reduce the spread of the pandemic by 95% or more. In my country, only 14% of the population has been completely vaccinated till now. And here on average 200-400 deaths are being reported everyday. I would say that the government is struggling to contain the pandemic, because large sections of the population are refusing to get vaccinated.

those who refuse vaccination do not believe in the existence of this virus or they underestimate this virus. people who know how dangerous this virus is will gladly accept the vaccination. someone who has been vaccinated can still transmit the COVID-19 virus but the chances are lower. I think that the imposition of mandatory vaccination regulations is the right policy so that herd immunity is quickly formed and this pandemic ends.

[herurist]

those who refuse vaccination do not believe in the existence of this virus or they underestimate this virus. people who know how dangerous this virus is will gladly accept the vaccination. someone who has been vaccinated can still transmit the COVID-19 virus but the chances are lower. I think that the imposition of mandatory vaccination regulations is the right policy so that herd immunity is quickly formed and this pandemic ends.

but I think people who reject vaccines actually don't believe in the existence of covid, but they just need a deeper approach because because of ignorance, feeling unfamiliar, unpredictable, natural, it's very natural for them to react like that because it was claimed when the vaccine started In fact, no one can claim that the vaccination can inhibit the virus.
but if you look at it now and the vaccination has been tested even though it is not 100 percent because in medicine there is no such thing as 100 percent but it is proven effective and there is no reason for them to refuse.

[kanayaTabitha]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

They hiding behind the fact that the virus are spreading through airborne and spreading really fast and the only way to protect people from it just with vaccinated. Maybe there are already many people knows that must be something wrong with this pandemic when the virus is spreading so fast and not long after the pandemic starts, the vaccined is created which is so fast if we compared to other vaccine which need a long time research.
So i think this is a new normal that already created by someone and no way to avoid it, just take it as a destiny and live the live a head with no hate.

[Ultegra134]

I was one of the first in my age group (18-24) that got vaccinated when the platform launched. I'm not against measures taken towards the dichotomy of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

Every healthy individual should get vaccinated, I don't see why not, vaccination not only decreases the severity of the illness in case you get infected but also decreases the chance of infection.

[mksundip]

Vaccination is carried out with the aim of creating herd immunity. because the world's government hopes that everyone can be immune to the covid 19 virus. This also has an impact on global economic growth, I think that accelerated vaccination will make the global economy better and the business sector around the world will improve. and this will also have a positive effect on the crypto market

[jaysabi]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

[Jating]

I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

And we feel sorry for those who don't understand the difference between unvaccinated person getting the virus vs vaccinated one. It reduces the risk of people dying, as opposed to those who don't want or don't believed in vaccine and its good effect. I've seen people around me dead because they are unvaccinated, just sad but that's the way it is. I'm fully vaccinated now, everyone of us, the whole family and the good thing is that it's free, so I don't understand why there are still people not wanting to get it, until its too late.

[Sithara007]

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

There are two things here. First of all, the vaccinated people have a lower probability of getting the infection. Even with the delta strain, the Moderna vaccine has reported an efficacy of 76%. Other vaccines like AstraZeneca and Sputnik V have also reported >50% efficacy against this strain. And that is the first thing. Secondly, even if someone gets infected after vaccination, he is much less likely to spread the virus to others when compared to the unvaccinated people. So the real impact is not 76%, but much higher than that.

[DrBeer]

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

There are two things here. First of all, the vaccinated people have a lower probability of getting the infection. Even with the delta strain, the Moderna vaccine has reported an efficacy of 76%. Other vaccines like AstraZeneca and Sputnik V have also reported >50% efficacy against this strain. And that is the first thing. Secondly, even if someone gets infected after vaccination, he is much less likely to spread the virus to others when compared to the unvaccinated people. So the real impact is not 76%, but much higher than that.

Request - do not popularize drugs without proven effectiveness. This is me talking about Sputnik 5, which since the creation of this so-called "vaccine", in no way has been able to provide a standard set of data for certification, and even under a simplified scheme. Moreover, the other day even the President of Russia officially said that he was retiring for self-isolation, after it turned out that one of the entourage was vaccinated Sputnik 5, but got sick, because the satellite's effectiveness is "not yet confirmed." Several other high-ranking officials from the Russian Federation, having been vaccinated, died as a result of the disease Covid19 - the data is available in open sources. Therefore, this brew cannot be called a vaccine, and any advertisement for it cannot be created. There is a list of vaccines accepted in the world, whose effect is proven, and they are available on the market.

[freedomgo]

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

There are two things here. First of all, the vaccinated people have a lower probability of getting the infection. Even with the delta strain, the Moderna vaccine has reported an efficacy of 76%. Other vaccines like AstraZeneca and Sputnik V have also reported >50% efficacy against this strain. And that is the first thing. Secondly, even if someone gets infected after vaccination, he is much less likely to spread the virus to others when compared to the unvaccinated people. So the real impact is not 76%, but much higher than that.

Vaccination program has become mandatory by now because its the most proven solution not to get infected with the virus. And if he will be infected, the symptoms are not that strong compared to non- vaccinated people. So i don't see any valid reasons that people should not comply with it. But if a certain individual will really stand on his decision not to be vaccinated, then let's just respect his decision.

I also think some people refuse to be vaccinated because of the thought that they own their body so they have all  the right to take responsibility on it. If they think that their immune system is strong enough to fight the virus, then it will be a big trouble if medical practitioners still force them to do so.

[Ultegra134]

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.

There are two things here. First of all, the vaccinated people have a lower probability of getting the infection. Even with the delta strain, the Moderna vaccine has reported an efficacy of 76%. Other vaccines like AstraZeneca and Sputnik V have also reported >50% efficacy against this strain. And that is the first thing. Secondly, even if someone gets infected after vaccination, he is much less likely to spread the virus to others when compared to the unvaccinated people. So the real impact is not 76%, but much higher than that.

The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.