Hey bitcoiners if you are interested in the rebrand from Cobo to Keystone...

[tenant48]

They are not completely different, not long ago they worked together, and both devices are almost identical with few small changes.
There is no company here that is generating seed, only user can generate, import or transfer seed, and nobody can access it even if they want to do it because Keystone/Cobo is airgapped device.

Let's say you decide to transfer your seed from Cobo wallet to Keystone wallet. let's hypothetically assume that after a while you have lost funds from your Keystone wallet. Who will you blame Cobo or Keystone? Are you 100% sure that Keystone is to blame? To avoid such incomprehensible situations, it is better to transfer your funds from Cobo to Keystone.

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[dkbit98]

Let's say you decide to transfer your seed from Cobo wallet to Keystone wallet. let's hypothetically assume that after a while you have lost funds from your Keystone wallet. Who will you blame Cobo or Keystone? Are you 100% sure that Keystone is to blame? To avoid such incomprehensible situations, it is better to transfer your funds from Cobo to Keystone.

No.
I am not a child, so I won't blame anyone if I am hypothetically so stupid to lose MY coins or MY seed phrase, but I guess other people may have a habit of blaming others for everything that happens to them.

[tenant48]

No.
I am not a child, so I won't blame anyone if I am hypothetically so stupid to lose MY coins or MY seed phrase, but I guess other people may have a habit of blaming others for everything that happens to them.

I do not mean that you will lose your seed. I am saying that your seed could theoretically be compromised on either the Cobo wallet or the Keystone wallet. Who in this case, in your opinion, will be to blame?

[dkbit98]

I do not mean that you will lose your seed. I am saying that your seed could theoretically be compromised on either the Cobo wallet or the Keystone wallet. Who in this case, in your opinion, will be to blame?

Listen dude... I don't know if you don't understand English language or what, but I said I won't blame anyone, and I don't know what you mean ''compromised seed''.
Cobo and Keystone are never connected with computer or internet in any way so there is more chance of someone finding your paper with seed words than extracting them from your device.
Simple procedure, import seed to Keystone, than reset old Cobo device, remove battery and use hammer to destroy your old device if you are not refunding it.
If you refunding old Cobo device, than send coins to other non-custodial wallet, reset device, never use that seed again, and send them your Cobo wallet for refund (if they ask for it).
If you need to blame someone than blame yourself for making poor decisions and mistakes.

[tenant48]

I do not mean that you will lose your seed. I am saying that your seed could theoretically be compromised on either the Cobo wallet or the Keystone wallet. Who in this case, in your opinion, will be to blame?

Listen dude... I don't know if you don't understand English language or what, but I said I won't blame anyone, and I don't know what you mean ''compromised seed''.
Cobo and Keystone are never connected with computer or internet in any way so there is more chance of someone finding your paper with seed words than extracting them from your device.
Simple procedure, import seed to Keystone, than reset old Cobo device, remove battery and use hammer to destroy your old device if you are not refunding it.
If you refunding old Cobo device, than send coins to other non-custodial wallet, reset device, never use that seed again, and send them your Cobo wallet for refund (if they ask for it).
If you need to blame someone than blame yourself for making poor decisions and mistakes.

Don't be so nervous. By a compromised seed, I meant, for example, the operation of a random number generator built into the wallet, which can give out a far from random seed, but issue it according to an algorithm known by the manufacturer. In theory, the seed can be transferred byte-by-byte via QR codes. I'm not saying that Cobo or Keystone will do this on purpose. But people from criminal structures show interest in such companies and often try to introduce their own people there. Not one hardware wallet company is immune from this problem, just like any other financial company.

[BitcoinLixin]

Mentioning open source, here are the details for Keystone -
https://blog.keyst.one/on-open-source-and-transparency-ba37fa1c1e8c

[tenant48]

Lixin, write when is it worth expecting the appearance of the Cyberpunk version of the wallet? Will it be multicurrency or bitcoin only version?

[BitcoinLixin]

Thanks for asking! Great question!

Lixin, write when is it worth expecting the appearance of the Cyberpunk version of the wallet? Will it be multicurrency or bitcoin only version?

We are in a very early phase of development not. The most ideal estimation is mid 2022. But it may go to late 2022 or 2023. There will be some other big changes.

The Cypherpunk version won't have any workable firmware when shipped out. With that being said, you can compile either multi-coin firmware or BTC-only firmware and burn into the device at your will.

[n0nce]

Thanks for asking! Great question!

Lixin, write when is it worth expecting the appearance of the Cyberpunk version of the wallet? Will it be multicurrency or bitcoin only version?

We are in a very early phase of development not. The most ideal estimation is mid 2022. But it may go to late 2022 or 2023. There will be some other big changes.

The Cypherpunk version won't have any workable firmware when shipped out. With that being said, you can compile either multi-coin firmware or BTC-only firmware and burn into the device at your will.

I'm looking forward to the Cypherpunk version! It would be the first and only hardware wallet with self-compiled firmware as far as I know.

[BitcoinLixin]

Thanks for asking! Great question!

Lixin, write when is it worth expecting the appearance of the Cyberpunk version of the wallet? Will it be multicurrency or bitcoin only version?

We are in a very early phase of development not. The most ideal estimation is mid 2022. But it may go to late 2022 or 2023. There will be some other big changes.

The Cypherpunk version won't have any workable firmware when shipped out. With that being said, you can compile either multi-coin firmware or BTC-only firmware and burn into the device at your will.

I'm looking forward to the Cypherpunk version! It would be the first and only hardware wallet with self-compiled firmware as far as I know.

Unfortunately no You can compile your own firmware for both Trezor and Coldcard.
https://wiki.trezor.io/Developers_guide:Custom_firmware
https://github.com/Coldcard/firmware/blob/master/docs/dev-access.md

Anyway, this will be a big step for Keystone and thanks for your support!