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September 15, 2021, 05:10:13 PM
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Parents have a huge part and responsibility for this. We all know that we can't control anything about technology these days but we can't do anything to educate our kids about the risks of gambling and how it could ruin their lives at a young age. Teaching them to be vigilant and mindful about what they click on the internet would be a good step for them to know how to get rid of gambling.

Technology is double edge sword, it is proportionally good and bad. Due to advancements in technology, everything (regardless of your age) is available on your palm. In my opinion, apart from counseling and guidelines parents can use technology to see what there underage kids are doing online. They must keep an eye of where there kids are using their credit cards. Its just parents who can stop there under age kids from going to online gambling sites.

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September 15, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
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Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
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September 15, 2021, 05:19:25 PM
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It was only 39 percent and to me I don't think that was big or alarming plus it says that they are betting with Thier own money and not Thier parents money . I don't have a problem with that .
what I only don't like is the way how these gambling sites promote Thier business because they are done in unproper way  .
 Me myself I hate it when there's unexpected ad that pop up when I'm browsing and to solve this I either change browser or install ad blockers .
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September 15, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
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Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.

Raising awareness from the government providing campaign ads to gather the attentions of all the parents to guard their kids is very important. With serious actions from the state, this will lessen the interest of the people around.

We can't beat this advertisement since online is very useful now for everyone.

It will easily catch the interest of those underaged people, But if this will be taken seriously, the spread of reaching more underage people will be lesser., A hand to hand work from both the government and the society to make sure that the kids are very well aware of this possible problem that may await them in the future.

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September 15, 2021, 05:58:49 PM
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The regulated casinos that require KYC details basically eliminate these problems, because they require your identity documents to verify that you are not underage... but the same cannot be said about the unregulated and unlicensed sites.

So what it boils down to is this ==> "Good parenting" ...... A parent must make sure that their children does not participate in things that are not legal, so regular inspection of their devices and not placing computers and tablets in their children's rooms... might help to reduce this. (It is not nice to "police" your own children's actions and activities, but you have to protect them.. against the things that they are not ready for)  Roll Eyes

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September 15, 2021, 06:04:58 PM
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Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.

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September 15, 2021, 07:29:40 PM
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Teenagers nowadays are quick to learn on their feet, and probably knows how to work around KYC that is imposed and required on casinos. They can fake documents that are required by casinos, or use their parents' identities in order to sign up and register to a casino. KYC isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, but rather the prevention and the initiative should start with the parents.

It was only 39 percent and to me I don't think that was big or alarming plus it says that they are betting with Thier own money and not Thier parents money . I don't have a problem with that .
what I only don't like is the way how these gambling sites promote Thier business because they are done in unproper way  .
 Me myself I hate it when there's unexpected ad that pop up when I'm browsing and to solve this I either change browser or install ad blockers .

39% is already alarming considering that we're talking about underaged gamblers in here. Those 39% could lead themselves to a problematic lifestyle in the future if they are not checked, or if no intervention from their parents won't come.
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September 15, 2021, 08:29:31 PM
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technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.

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September 15, 2021, 09:01:43 PM
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I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.
Ever since the online world grew big enough, there is an anonymous level that people can keep for a long time. This is very valid for all the casinos that do not ask for KYC as well, if they are not asking for your KYC than it is obviously going to be easy for the underage people to gamble. When that is in crypto world then it would mean that they would get to gamble without using any credit card or anything neither. So, a crypto casino without kyc means that any underage can play.

However do you know what is the funny thing? They still have to go through so many hoops to play that, yet in my nation sportsbetting is allowed and we get to gamble with that no matter how old we are, I gambled my first horse racing bet when I was 12, like yeah sure maybe a 17 year old could get in as 18 but I was 12! So, it is really not a new rare thing that children do gamble sometimes.
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September 15, 2021, 09:03:56 PM
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IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Sorry man, this is not true. I can't tell how much websites, which are target for underaged users, are full of publicities about both gambling websites and pornographic websites as well. For instance, websites with streaming movies or some gaming platforms.
I may think about this situation from two sides:
- The problem with users who are not in control of what their children watch in internet as we can't blame companies to publish ads for gambling platforms.
- The solution, besides the control of the children activities by their parents, is that gambling platforms should verify the age of its users which requires a procedure of verification which is not recommended to be used by users searching for more privacy/anonymity.
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technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
In short, we are already relying on technology nowadays even with the simplest activity that we are involved on which do mostly needed up some internet connection which simply means that we are

really that exposed on online things which young minds or not matured kids will really be having the risk on dealing with those things which shouldn't really be engaged or experienced by them.

Curiosity does circle on someones mind which simply tells that it could possibly be the main reason on why kids do really go up with bad decisions.

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September 15, 2021, 09:36:01 PM
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technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
This is one of the disadvantages of growing technologies, we are exposing our Children into bad environment that can really affect them for their entire life.

This is why as a parent, we should double our time monitoring our child and guiding them into the right path so they won’t fall into this trap, we should also not depend on any government because that’s our responsibilities in the first place.

Crypto casinos or any gambling site already have this restrictions but due to anonymity they can’t monitor all their players, this is why we need a strong regulations and restrictions so those underaged can’t play on their platform, I guess basic KYC can help.

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September 15, 2021, 09:37:07 PM
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technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
In short, we are already relying on technology nowadays even with the simplest activity that we are involved on which do mostly needed up some internet connection which simply means that we are

On this issue, parents should have to take a look what their children do, even though they use gadgets because we can't deny the fact that technology fastest spreading and they are prone to the gambling activity if no one will guide them. This is a very serious or isolated case, we should look forward to them because their future will be at stake in this case. I am afraid because most of the young people are always curious about those things and I guess some of them will try when there is money.

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September 15, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
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Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.


Even his own parents are busy with their own gadgets. Usually when they are just gathered in one room and they are all busy with what they are holding each other, never controlling what they access even they are not aware of each other. So far, the role of parents is not to provide any learning to children. The tendency to access prohibited sites is difficult to control if all of them do not provide education that truly educates their own children, what parents do is the most vulnerable example for children to imitate.

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September 15, 2021, 09:39:50 PM
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There doesn't really exist any solution to fit that problem. Before video verifications, kids were usually taking the passport of their fathers, were taking pictures and sending them to get KYC verified. After video verifications, kids ask to their adult friends to create casino account and give them in exchange of $5 or something like that, this person agrees and then these kids gamble. Also, these kids usually share the KYC verified accounts in each-other. I have worked in gambling industry and can tell you that these casino truly know what's happening, they just don't care because these kids are good income for them and the goal of these businessmen is to maximize the profit, even if that makes someone miserable.

The only solution that comes to my mind is to ask for KYC documents every week or two week in order to truly know who is the account owner. I think this will lessen the accidents that I mentioned above.

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September 15, 2021, 09:44:06 PM
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On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Advertisements are something that can't be avoided. As far as I know, most of the advertisements are targeted so casinos can get appropriate audience. Unfortunately, there is nothing much the casino can do to avoid underage gambling. I mean they can force all users to go through KYC as soon as the user registers, but most of the people won't be happy with that. As far as I know almost all fiat casino requires you to pass the KYC. I guess eventually even crypto casinos will be forced to make all users pass the KYC due to regulations.

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September 15, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
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Well advertisement today can be seen in any social media platform, it can be in a banner ads, video advertisement and others. It's a very challenging to every parent today to control their children because mobile gadgets today were became an essential to every children because of the need to their education and due to trend also. ...
That's right. As parents, we can only control them as we can, but unfortunately, we cannot do it 24 hours.
However, we can try by giving them understanding and more attention in order to minimize their inetrests or willingess to gambling.
Because we really know, our kids, are not ready yet for this.

I doubt that KYC can stop young people from playing gambling because they will figure out how to bypass the KYC process. Many ways they can use, including borrowing their parents, uncle, aunt or other adult people to completed the KYC verifications and mostly, their parents will not know about that.
Yeah, Children are now being clever than we are thinking.
If the KYC is done lively, live video call, maybe it can help. But, I think they will choose other platforms that will not need to do KYC or only using KYC by document only that they can get easily.

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September 15, 2021, 11:24:55 PM
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This is no way gambling platform can determine users that are underaged and those that are not because most gambling sites does not requires kyc which might be very hard for them to know. The problem of who is underaged and who are not does not really concern gambling platforms and there no law that subject them to do verification for knowing who is underaged or not. The society is moving to other level which will be less strict on underage activities.

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Last edit: September 16, 2021, 12:56:57 AM by harizen
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I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

Hmm, is this serious? That browser is alarming if behaving like that and my Chrome is not like that. As for my knowledge, there's no such thing as Chrome Browser or any popular browsers will force you directly to some gambling sites unless you click an ad as it will trigger another web page or tab.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

With technology today and with the current pandemic situation where everyone is focused only on their mobile and computers, people at any age will really exposed to gambling sites. Ads are everywhere not just for gambling-related sites.

Just like what other things they are seeing in the internet, it's now up to them how to deal with it.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

There's no solution but rather people have to educate one over one. It's not that easy and simple. After telling youth that they should not gamble, they won't just follow that easily.

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September 16, 2021, 02:36:37 AM
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It's certainly a valid concern.

However, I think that a lot of media opinions surrounding this topic is clearly blown out of proportion and sensationalised.

Also, not all the onus should be on the casino. Sure, there should be implementations of voluntary self-exclusion schemes, for instance, but you can't enforce any ban on underaged gambling with 100% certainty - there are bound to be people who slip through the nets.

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