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December 03, 2011, 12:06:32 AM
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Ixcoin.org is now back online after issues with the DNS were fixed.

We're still looking for someone willing to port merged mining to the Ixcoin distro (and even upgrade to the bitcoin 0.5 codebase). If you're interested, the current bounty is 30,000 IXC.

Anyone who wants to can't contribute coding is welcome to contribute to the bounty at xvqw8p6smpLmLbXhLaDhjvuEhKdkTXhscP

Thanks.

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Are you on any exchanges?

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December 03, 2011, 12:12:20 AM
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Are you on any exchanges?

Not at the moment, but I could be wrong. When we switch over to merged mining, Ixcoin should get more exchange uptake.

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December 03, 2011, 12:17:25 AM
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We're still looking for someone willing to port merged mining to the Ixcoin distro (and even upgrade to the bitcoin 0.5 codebase). If you're interested, the current bounty is 30,000 IXC.
I can backport the patches I did for i0coin to ixcoin pretty easily I suspect. This doesn't update to the bitcoin 0.5 codebase, but does the core bugfixes up to then. I didn't apply the upgrades to the client for the Qt UI for example. Most importantly it gives the timetravel fix and merge mining.

If I do this and submit a github pull request is that sufficient?
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December 03, 2011, 12:37:12 AM
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We're still looking for someone willing to port merged mining to the Ixcoin distro (and even upgrade to the bitcoin 0.5 codebase). If you're interested, the current bounty is 30,000 IXC.
I can backport the patches I did for i0coin to ixcoin pretty easily I suspect. This doesn't update to the bitcoin 0.5 codebase, but does the core bugfixes up to then. I didn't apply the upgrades to the client for the Qt UI for example. Most importantly it gives the timetravel fix and merge mining.

If I do this and submit a github pull request is that sufficient?

Hi DoubleC,

The timetravel fix is a one-liner so that's no biggie, but if you can add merged mining successfully then yes that would be sufficient. I'll hopefully be able to compile and then release the new distro.

Thx!

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December 03, 2011, 01:23:19 AM
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I started working on backporting some fixes. There's a pull request for the timetravel exploit fix, switching on at block 40,000:

https://github.com/doublec/ixcoin/tree/timetravelfix
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December 03, 2011, 01:28:30 AM
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Adds a checkpoint at block 36,500:

https://github.com/doublec/ixcoin/tree/checkpoint_36500
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December 03, 2011, 01:45:14 AM
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Merged mining:

https://github.com/doublec/ixcoin/tree/mergedmining

This enables ixcoin as a primary chain on the main network. It is supported as an auxiliary chain on the testnet only. I'll do some testing then push another commit to enable it as an auxiliary on the main net at a certain block number. Then I'll do a pull request.

Primary chain support is still useful though. It means you can mine ixcoin and namecoins together right now by building this branch as it's a non-forking change.
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December 03, 2011, 03:58:11 AM
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Merge mining pull request enabling support as an auxiliary chain at block 45,000: https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin/pull/5

I tested mining bitcoin, namecoin, ixcoin and i0coin all at once, successfully getting blocks. This was on my own internal forks of the block chains so I could mine at low difficulty. I'd suggest doing your own tests too to be comfortable.

If this is enough to claim the bounty my address is xo8Jj5XcebH6qZE8ndhvrJjferxjL885L6

While testing I noticed the genesis block for the ixcoin testnet is invalid. it'd be great if you could generate a valid testnet genesis since it makes testing a bit easier.



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December 04, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
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I think he should wait til block 45,000 hits.  Hopefully some sites like coinotron will adopt it.  Hopefully doublec and nasakioto come to their senses and implement a 5% sales tax on transactions to be deleted before block 45,000.

Now compare this to your average corporation.  First you have a 10% sales tax, then a 50% tax total tax on the materials to make a product, then a 15% tax on the income of employees, then a 15.3% payroll tax, then all the shipping taxes, rental taxes, signage taxes, fire permits, building permits, and other fees amounting to about 5%, then their are the compliance taxes like irs tax law, tort lawyers, and sarbanes-oxyley add another 10%, then there are business income taxes of 35%, and 15% capital gains taxes and 15% dividend taxes, but then you start to get to the biggest tax of all the inflation tax which the company must pay on retained earnings and the poor sap collecting the dividend will probably wait two years before he spends the money thus 20% eaten away by inflation.

So you ring the register:

30% employees
20% materials
48% taxes
2% profits.

Then you have asses like occupy wall street, Michael Moore, and Robert Reich want even more, not from government that does nothing, but the 2% of business profits.   The "GM bailout" was not a bailout, it was a tax cut!

Why did I put this down, because a 5% tax is the only tax.
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December 04, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
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Hopefully doublec and nasakioto come to their senses and implement a 5% sales tax on transactions to be deleted before block 45,000.
It's nothing to do with me - I just provided fixes for issues raised by the ixcoin developer to claim a bounty. Block 40,000 is getting close - if you're not going to release a client with the timetravel exploit fixed soon you'll need to change the block switch on time. Any timeline?
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December 05, 2011, 01:45:51 AM
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Block 45,000 or block 40,000?
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Block 45,000 or block 40,000?
Block 40,000 is when the timetravel fix activates, 45,000 is when merged mining activates. Assuming the ixcoin developer keeps the same block numbers as I used in the patches. Probably best to make them larger now since there won't be time for people to get new clients.
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December 05, 2011, 10:35:26 AM
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Maybe Nasakioto would release control of the chain/client to you.  Also an update to the link on the ixcoin.org webpage.  Thus, he might give you an admin password for the website.  You did a great job with IOC now with a 300+ difficulty.  If he does maybe keep everything the same except a 2.5% tax with 2% to be deleted and 0.5% to miners.  The reason is if we have 4 chains BTC, NMC, IOC, IXC it would create a coin that is slightly different than the other 3.

BTC is the original
NMC has the domain name
IOC has fast blocks (BTW does anyone know if the 48 block ever reduces?)
IXC will have the 2.5% tax.  

It will also have the bonus of keeping the block chain smaller.
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December 08, 2011, 04:03:30 PM
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When is the next retarget?  I was mining Ixcoin last night and was finding blocks back to back to back.  Sometimes someone else would find a block, but I don't think there's more than one or two people mining it right now, and at close to 400 difficulty, it's going to be a while before we see the next difficulty adjustment.

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December 08, 2011, 04:24:24 PM
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If someone does use IXcoin as "an auxilliary" chain to mine, how can clients validate the blocks?

For example suppose one day I decide to use IXcoin as auxilliary and GRPcoin as main.

Next day I figure okay, that seemed to work, today I'll use DEVcoin as the parent chain.

Meanwhile someone else has been using Namecoin as parent chain.

When someone's client wants to determine for itself whether a block is valid, how does it even know which chain the miner chose to use as parent chain for that block, let alone how to find a blockchain of whatever chain it happened to be, and how to find the proof in that parent chain?

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December 08, 2011, 11:45:30 PM
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Every 144 blocks so 270*144=38880 or roughly 71 blocks from the time this of posting.

Oh cool, thanks!  At this rate it's going to be a few more days then Sad

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December 09, 2011, 04:35:14 AM
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Don't forget this still has the premine that was only created to fill his pocket.
I'd suggest dump it coz all you will be doing is filling the fake OPs pockets.

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Don't forget this still has the premine that was only created to fill his pocket.
I'd suggest dump it coz all you will be doing is filling the fake OPs pockets.

You actually think he has any of that 200k coin left??
Well he has 30k up for grabs in the first post of this thread ...

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December 09, 2011, 11:26:26 AM
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Went back and searched Smiley
Actually the pre-mine was 580k coins.
... and it was a pre-mine - the fool actually mined all those blocks before releasing it Tongue

But yeah the reason for i0coin was simply because of that pre-mine.
i0coin is ixcoin without the 'fake' OP doing a 580k pre-mine.
No doubt he's seen i0coin coming back to life and wanting this too.

I'd certainly suggest any exchange that wants to risk going near this to require a MUCH larger bounty from the OP.

Better to go after i0coins than this trash.

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He did not hide he pre-mined.   Furthermore he gave away most in bounties.  Probably sold the rest.   It also shows bounties don't really work becasue after they received their bounty, 90% of the sites went down.   IXC has been around a long time, twith the difficulty low for believers to get alot of IXC even today with little mining power.  Unlike BTC where almost 5 million went to early adopters.  Most all IXC went to late adopters.  If anything we should shut down bitcoin.
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Most all IXC went to late adopters. 
If you define bitcoin early adopters as those who mined in the first year then IXC has no late adopters...
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He did not hide he pre-mined.   Furthermore he gave away most in bounties.  Probably sold the rest.   It also shows bounties don't really work becasue after they received their bounty, 90% of the sites went down.   IXC has been around a long time, twith the difficulty low for believers to get alot of IXC even today with little mining power.  Unlike BTC where almost 5 million went to early adopters.  Most all IXC went to late adopters.  If anything we should shut down bitcoin.
I keep hearing this bullshit about BTC early adopters.
Your quoting it completely out of context and thus showing complete bias against facts.

Yes those who went into bitcoin 'early' got more coins at an easier mining difficulty.
As could have you for the first year and a half bitcoin was around.
Bitcoin didn't reach difficulty 10 until block 52415 which was 15 months after it started.
IXCoin's current difficulty (block 39270) is 231.38719554
Bitcoin didn't reach that until July last year - after it had been around for 18 months.
Complaining about the so called BTC pre-mine is just being a whiny bitch about not getting into Bitcoin in the first year and a half - you only have yourself to blame.

IXcoin had 580k premined before ANYONE else could mine them - i.e. from before day 1.
Show me any proof that he gave 'MOST' of the 580k coins away ...
Last time I mined a block was 18-Sep and the block count was 21141 which meant that people who mined still only had a total of about 2million coins.
Since then only about another 1.8million coins have been mined.

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He did not hide he pre-mined.   Furthermore he gave away most in bounties.  Probably sold the rest.   It also shows bounties don't really work becasue after they received their bounty, 90% of the sites went down.   IXC has been around a long time, twith the difficulty low for believers to get alot of IXC even today with little mining power.  Unlike BTC where almost 5 million went to early adopters.  Most all IXC went to late adopters.  If anything we should shut down bitcoin.
I keep hearing this bullshit about BTC early adopters.
Your quoting it completely out of context and thus showing complete bias against facts.

Yes those who went into bitcoin 'early' got more coins at an easier mining difficulty.
As could have you for the first year and a half bitcoin was around.
Bitcoin didn't reach difficulty 10 until block 52415 which was 15 months after it started.
IXCoin's current difficulty (block 39270) is 231.38719554
Bitcoin didn't reach that until July last year - after it had been around for 18 months.
Complaining about the so called BTC pre-mine is just being a whiny bitch about not getting into Bitcoin in the first year and a half - you only have yourself to blame.

IXcoin had 580k premined before ANYONE else could mine them - i.e. from before day 1.
Show me any proof that he gave 'MOST' of the 580k coins away ...
Last time I mined a block was 18-Sep and the block count was 21141 which meant that people who mined still only had a total of about 2million coins.
Since then only about another 1.8million coins have been mined.

Add up the mining rewards. https://ixcoin.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Bounties.  He probably sold the rest.  Nasakioto has been stingy on new bounties, thus most are probably gone.  He probably still has 300K or so from new mining.    There was no gpu mining in the beginning of bitcoin furthermore, the coin was not advertised.  Bitcoin should be shut down and a new bitcoin started to be fair.  I have nothing against bitcoin though that is just the way it worked out.  The rules of ixcoin are in place.  i0coin we don't even know how many will be in existence.  There is no faq on i0coin.  Someone changed about 5 lines of iXcoin code and started i0coin up.  With no faq or anything.  You can even mine ixc today, and get more coin in one day than you can get in one year mining btc.  But, unlike BTC, you know ixc exists.  It is your choice to mine it and promote it, just like the BTC guys.

Nasakiotos experiment on using bounties to promote ixcoin, imho was a failure.  Once people get the bounty, they can just walk away.

What I really want to know is the 48 i0c reward going to halve when it hits block 210,000?
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What I really want to know is the 48 i0c reward going to halve when it hits block 210,000?

Code:

/Volumes/video/working/i0coin$ grep -r Subsidy i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/*
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    int64 nSubsidy = 48 * COIN;
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    // Subsidy is cut in half every 2 years
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / 218750);
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    return nSubsidy + nFees;

Don't understand the code here.  I think COIN is 100,000,000.  But what is nHeight and what does the operator >>= do.  Is the nsubsidy halved every 218,750 blocks?  Since nsubsidy is an integer I suppose it truncates it to an integer.
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Code:

/Volumes/video/working/i0coin$ grep -r Subsidy i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/*
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    int64 nSubsidy = 48 * COIN;
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    // Subsidy is cut in half every 2 years
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / 218750);
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    return nSubsidy + nFees;

Don't understand the code here.  I think COIN is 100,000,000.  But what is nHeight and what does the operator >>= do.  Is the nsubsidy halved every 218,750 blocks?  Since nsubsidy is an integer I suppose it truncates it to an integer.
'nHeight' is the current block count. '>>=' is shift right and assign. Basically it divides the subsidy in half every 218,750 blocks. This isn't two years since i0coin has a different block rate time. It's about 230 days.
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Code:

/Volumes/video/working/i0coin$ grep -r Subsidy i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/*
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    int64 nSubsidy = 48 * COIN;
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    // Subsidy is cut in half every 2 years
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / 218750);
../i0coin/i0coin-v32507-for_building/src/main.cpp:    return nSubsidy + nFees;

Don't understand the code here.  I think COIN is 100,000,000.  But what is nHeight and what does the operator >>= do.  Is the nsubsidy halved every 218,750 blocks?  Since nsubsidy is an integer I suppose it truncates it to an integer.
'nHeight' is the current block count. '>>=' is shift right and assign. Basically it divides the subsidy in half every 218,750 blocks. This isn't two years since i0coin has a different block rate time. It's about 230 days.

Thanks.  This could make i0coin have very low inflation in only a couple years. In about 2 years the inflation rate will be about 3%. 
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Is the last that we hear of Thomas Nasakioto?

This was the last post on this forum from him and the last post on the Ixcoin site was on the 2nd December 2011.

He do not respond to any emails or message.
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Is the last that we hear of Thomas Nasakioto?

This was the last post on this forum from him and the last post on the Ixcoin site was on the 2nd December 2011.

He do not respond to any emails or message.

Damn looks like he has pulled a Satoshi...

I think he will come back.  Maybe doublec can run a split if he does not come back by xmas or new years?
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Or we just leave it be and all focus on I0C.

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Or we just leave it be and all focus on I0C.

IXC has never had a double spend attack or stopped.  Many want to kill it for some reason even though the difficulty for it has averaged higher than i0c for almost all of its history.   If anything I0C should be stopped.
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I agree with kano.

I can't believe this guy is still posting.. I thought he'd given up this ridiculous "project" months ago. The guy can't even code!

If my post helped, I'll happily accept a few bitmills!   15rGg6A1JFZV3b7TTbtpAaiYGdUD1e1oAm
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December 17, 2011, 04:37:24 AM
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Hi guys,

Apologies for the delay. Anyway, I'm back.

Thanks for the submitted changes DoubleC. I will have time to look into these tomorrow and hopefully get something compiled and distributed.

Once it's all up and working, I'll send doublec the well-earned bounty.

Thanks for your patience guys.

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December 18, 2011, 02:13:48 AM
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Attached are the Windows and Unix binaries for Ixcoin 0.3.24.3 which incorporates DoubleC's pull requests for merged mining and the 51% attack fix.

Unix binaries: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38736424/ixcoin-3.24.3-dev/ixcoin-unix-0.3.24.3.zip
Windows binaries http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38736424/ixcoin-3.24.3-dev/ixcoin-win-0.3.24.3.zip

The 51% fix takes effect on block 43,000 and merged mining on block 45,000

Please test the binaries on your platform and let me know if you have any issues. Also, I welcome any coders to review the recent commits https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin/commits/master

If you prefer to build from source, please go to https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin

Once I've had some feedback, I'll release the builds on ixcoin.org & co. (or apply any corrections as necessary).

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Seems to work, I've updated my nodes. I've also re-activated my ixcoin pool. Eventually i want to switch the pool to merge mine bitcoin/namecoin/ixcoin/i0coin when the chains become merge capable.
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Distro files are out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54977.0 for details.

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Hey, I have just started to happily mine IxC alongside btc,nmc, and dev coins. Is anyone still alive? The client works...
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Hey, I have just started to happily mine IxC alongside btc,nmc, and dev coins. Is anyone still alive? The client works...

Betcha Nasakioto still has the private keys for his premine.

nuff said

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Yeah its still chugging along. You can merge in i0coins and groupcoins too quite nicely by the way.

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Hey, I have just started to happily mine IxC alongside btc,nmc, and dev coins. Is anyone still alive? The client works...

Betcha Nasakioto still has the private keys for his premine.

nuff said

I don't care about the premined coins in this case. Supposedly gave some of them away to people even. I get the coins for free, which is a good start. It can be argued that most people didn't hear about Btc before it was mined by a few early adopters either. I know it isn't the same thing, but to me it doesn't matter who holds a large bunch of coins now. Since we live in pro-profit world, if those coins can possibly fulfill any purpose, let the dev have a big share in his invention.
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+1 

I hate all that premine trolling. The premining is public knowledge, Dont' like premining? Then stay away form the coin, and move on in life.

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I hate all that premine trolling. The premining is public knowledge, Dont' like premining? Then stay away form the coin, and move on in life.


I did that, but I think it's fair to tell it to people if you aren't sure they know it already.

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I tried to visit the Ixcoin forum from the link on the ixcoin.org site but it seems to have been moved or taken down or something.

Since no-one seems to be interested in starting up businesses that are specifically operated in Ixcoin the fact that Open Transactions does not use one asset as somehow special/different so that all others must be priced only in that one, they might find it particularly useful as people who think of prices in terms of some other type of asset/coin can trade using their favourite coin while people who prefer Ixcoins can trade the exact same things using Ixcoins.

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Went back and searched Smiley
Actually the pre-mine was 580k coins.
... and it was a pre-mine - the fool actually mined all those blocks before releasing it Tongue

But yeah the reason for i0coin was simply because of that pre-mine.
i0coin is ixcoin without the 'fake' OP doing a 580k pre-mine.
No doubt he's seen i0coin coming back to life and wanting this too.

I'd certainly suggest any exchange that wants to risk going near this to require a MUCH larger bounty from the OP.

Better to go after i0coins than this trash.

Think I'll give this one a wide berth.

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