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We all know that Plagiarism is a big offensive crime according to the rules and regulations of the forum, and as a new forum user we are permitted to undergo the process of observing the rules at first, it's quite understandable the numbers of accumulated users that enhance to the commitment of Plagiarism or violates the protocols of the forum, eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.

So it's very obvious that some a plagarised work can't be detected at the initial point or stage due to know one is after the account then, and immediately the account joined a potential signature campaign a proper Plagiarism test will be carried and if eventually detected a plagarised article or work that  has be done for years the user will face panel of judges, so it's educative to isolate a copy and paste articles for reference purposes, and not to be ban, take precautions newbies especially.

 No Excuses For Plagiarism

From my  perspective, it's very clear that law can only be amended generally when the it's needful not because of one individual mistake of plagiarising article, so violating the rules and regulations if the organization or forum can't make people innate the law to reverse the already existing law that was implemented officially for the benefit of every user,

so i noticed that no Plagiarism that is unintentional, from my angle of understanding of mistake via Plagiarism, after two (2) or three (3) days interval of writing or posting a an article without corrections, from my perspective any post that's made after this period i mentioned above without corrections, is not longer Unintentional  Plagiarism, i may say that what really contribute to this effect of violating or committing Plagiarism is Laziness and over inquisitive to earn a Merit.

Disadvantages of purchasing an account.

Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

Five Elements for avoiding or eradicating of Plagiarism
1) Removal of laziness when making a post,
2) Add a source if copied an articles online and paste,
3) Think before creating a topic
4) study and research for post
5) Read carefully before making a post.

So I'm using this medium to recapitulate that purchasing an account is at higher risk due the account commitment of plagiarism and spamming before selling

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We all know that Plagiarism is a big offensive crime according to the rules and regulations of the forum, and as a new forum user we are permitted to undergo the process of observing the rules at first, it's quite understandable the numbers of accumulated users that enhance to the commitment of Plagiarism or violates the protocols of the forum, eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.


Newbies It will be very heart breaking and discouraging to build an account into a good rank and having joined in a good campaign get banned for plagiarism that you commited at the early stages of your account. That's why as much as possible you must try to contribute only original contents and be sure to make proper reference when you are quoting someone. Make comments and create reasonable topics in boards that you are comfortable with. You don't have to make the drive to impress make you plagiarize someone's work, take it easy, do your research, be free and express yourself.

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-snip- eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.
Tell me where did you get that percentage, have you done your own analysis so far of which ranking violates that rule the most?

Five Elements for avoiding or eradicating of Plagiarism
Avoiding or preventing is completely different from eradicating. Avoiding or preventing means that you must have a desire not to plagiarize and if you want to copy from other source then link the source but that doesn't mean you have to copy everything without adding your assumption. So linking to the source of the cited article is a credit to the owner. However, if you want to eradicate plagiarism then you just need to report it by using the "rtm" button if you don't want the public to know your identity.

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September 17, 2021, 08:40:58 PM
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Apparently, the plagiarism rule is one of the most reverence rule in the forum and it so much stands out. If only the newbies and other beginners could visit the LoyceV's report thread Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed on meta and perhaps pay regular visit to the Reputation sub board, then they would realise what it actually means to blatantly plagiarise someone's content. The problem often starts while the users are still beginners in the forum, being ignorant of the rules and not having ideas to make good contributions to the forum. Unfortunately, ignorance and being a beginner is not much of an adorned excuse.
It's so unfortunate when old mistakes catch up to ranked up users. This is why the plagiarism awareness post is one of the most preached subject of the forum.

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September 17, 2021, 08:53:12 PM
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I am not surprised that some newbies are getting banned because of plagiarism. Even though many high ranking forum users provide links for newbies to read abd learn before posting something to avoid getting banned and yet mostly newbies tend to plagiarise. Even the higher rank also plagiarise. There are some that will get a second chance and avoid getting banned unless they do it again. It happen especially for those who contributed a lot to the forum.

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September 17, 2021, 11:07:32 PM
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Does it seem you didn't understand what actually is plagiarism?

Read this

Source: google.com

Plagiarism is not a crime don't treat it as a crime it's prohibited here on the forum due to copyright and fraud and without proper credit to the author, it must be punished.

And this is not a law this is a rule here on the forum and it's prohibited not only here on the forum but it's all over the internet.

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Disadvantages of purchasing an account.

Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.
Account selling without public announcement will be suicidal and defamatory. I cannot imagine for instance @The Pharmacist account is sold and another personality now behind the account.
It means transfer of reputation;
Transfer of Trust
And transfer of identity to someone else. Users can actually hide behind another man's reputation and scam many.

It seems I'm being curious for nothing. If one actually wants to sell his account, no one will stop him/she because he owns the computer, the account, the email as well as the password. But tbh it's not pleasant to the ear.

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Last edit: September 18, 2021, 02:05:42 AM by SquirrelJulietGarden
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You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

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You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Also, if it was just one time, it would maybe happen as in the case of Mpamaegbu. I think someone who only plagiarized once, maybe twice at most in the forum (depending on the case), especially if his contribution to the forum is positive, should be dealt from a lenient perspective.


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Disadvantages of purchasing an account.

Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

So I'm using this medium to recapitulate that purchasing an account is at higher risk due the account commitment of plagiarism and spamming before selling


Accounts sale purchase is on high since there are bounties that only allow senior/ legendary/hero members to participate. Majority buys account with this intention. Its like a shortcut of sitting with high profile members while you are a newbie.
One method to discourage sale of account is to allow newbies to join the bounty campaigns but reward is based only on level of content they post.


I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.

AFAIk, its not allowed to sale or purchase bitcointalk.org account. Count me in for people looking for reference where it says "its allowed".

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September 18, 2021, 06:01:48 AM
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I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.

AFAIk, its not allowed to sale or purchase bitcointalk.org account. Count me in for people looking for reference where it says "its allowed".

On forum rules number 18 said account sales are allowed, but discouraged. What does discouraged mean? to let know members who trust user A isn't controlled by A person anymore, which is you can gave negative trust to the account if you didn't trust him again or you could gave neutral trust as for your own notes.
To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.


You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.
Read @DdmrDdmr replies below the thread.

@DdmrDdmr post provide a link to buy Bitcoin in ATMs
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By the way, the so called instructions are very similar to those found here: https://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-buy-bitcoins-with-bitcoin-atm/

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San-Diego based company Genesis Coin produces three types of ATMs: Genesis1 (two-way), Satoshi1 (one-way) and Satoshi2 (two-way). The process of purchasing bitcoins may have a verification procedure, in this case:
•   Click “Buy Bitcoins”
•   Provide mobile number
•   Enter received validation code
•   Scan fingerprint
•   Select coin (this type of machine may support not only Bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Dogecoin, Blackcoin, XCurrency)
•   Choose to scan wallet (pre-defined) or generate new
•   Scan wallet QR code if chosen
•   Insert cash bills
•   Click send
•   Get printed receipt

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-step1: just click on " buy Btc"

-step2: click  " input your mobile number "

-step3: enter your received validation code.

-step4: scam your thumb in the machines, for security purpose.

-step5: select your crptocurrency you need, example: LTC, ETH, BTC or any of the coin you choose to buy.

-step6: select your scam wallet.

-step7: select scam wallet code.

Step8: input cash bill.

-step9: click send.

-step10: wait for transaction to process.
Close isn't? what is scam wallet lol, this is proof @GeorgeJohn direct copy paste an article.

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Read @DdmrDdmr replies below the thread.

@DdmrDdmr post provide a link to buy Bitcoin in ATMs
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Close isn't? what is scam wallet lol, this is proof @GeorgeJohn direct copy paste an article.

I do not see a flagrant case of plagiarism there. It is similar, yes, but that can be written from memory by someone who is used to how Bitcoin ATMs work, it is common knowlegde. As mk4 said:

Sort of "accidental" plagiarism should be really uncommon; especially if the statement was something really really common.

For example: "A hardware wallet is the best option for holding your cryptocurrencies long-term". While I literally just wrote that myself right now with no intent of copying anyone, I wouldn't be surprised if the same exact line was posted at least once in the past on some article or forum post. Obviously this shouldn't be bannable simply because it's very common information.


DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.

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I do not see a flagrant case of plagiarism there. It is similar, yes, but that can be written from memory by someone who is used to how Bitcoin ATMs work, it is common knowlegde. As mk4 said:

Sort of "accidental" plagiarism should be really uncommon; especially if the statement was something really really common.

For example: "A hardware wallet is the best option for holding your cryptocurrencies long-term". While I literally just wrote that myself right now with no intent of copying anyone, I wouldn't be surprised if the same exact line was posted at least once in the past on some article or forum post. Obviously this shouldn't be bannable simply because it's very common information.


DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.
What @GeorgeJohn and @mk4 cases are different, that is true a common definition is not a plagiarism, but on @GeorgeJohn thread he multiple times mention unrelated words. If @GeorgeJohn really know how to use Bitcoin ATMs, he should know what the difference between both of scan and scam. Those radars he wrote also doesn't make sense, for me that is he took someone article and translate it without read twice what the google translate wrote.

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September 18, 2021, 06:35:42 AM
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You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.


Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.

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What @GeorgeJohn and @mk4 cases are different, that is true a common definition is not a plagiarism, but on @GeorgeJohn thread he multiple times mention unrelated words. If @GeorgeJohn really know how to use Bitcoin ATMs, he should know what the difference between both of scan and scam. Those radars he wrote also doesn't make sense, for me that is he took someone article and translate it without read twice what the google translate wrote.

I have seen that the thread is no longer in its post history. It's strange to me because I thought they were going to the "archival" section. In that section there is a thread:

Delete


but I don't think it's the thread we're talking about, because I think the answers from other forum users would be there.

In any case I agree with lovesmayfamilis:

Well, if this is plagiarism, then there must be a source where it was copied from. I could not find it, and the post is gone. Why excavate the dead?

In my opinion, which does not have to coincide with that of the moderators and Theymos, even if he plagiarized that one time, just that one time, and deleted the thread, no drastic consequences should be taken. Just a warning would do.

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You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.


Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.
That thread was made when i was a member, and at period i never go through the rules and regulations of the community or master the community criteria, and after the post been reported to moderator for a while it was wiped, because i used my initiative to write almost of them, so that prompted me to make this thread to new users, and i do that repeatedly to newbies to read the rules and regulations of community first before anything, because during my time of newbies i was not opportune to read the rules in time to know system, go through my profile the topic is not there, it's happens because i have no guidance, just cross check thread and see when it happens, long time ago and its not longer in my profile.

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You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.


Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.
That thread was made when i was a member, and at period i never go through the rules and regulations of the community or master the community criteria, and after the post been reported to moderator for a while it was wiped, because i used my initiative to write almost of them, so that prompted me to make this thread to new users, and i do that repeatedly to newbies to read the rules and regulations of community first before anything, because during my time of newbies i was not opportune to read the rules in time to know system, go through my profile the topic is not there, it's happens because i have no guidance, just cross check thread and see when it happens, long time ago and its not longer in my profile.

Oh, my God! It is sometimes very helpful to read the responses of the people in the thread you are creating. First, at least the previous answer. You should not write in a personal, proving something. Moreover, I didn’t blame you.
Another thing is, why to create regularly the same type of topic Huh?
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<…> DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.
I can’t recall if I did, and the historical report window only displays the most recent 30 day window. The fact that the thread was deleted denotes that is was likely reported by someone, and that the moderator took action to delete it (which often happens when a plagiarized post is deleted). Nevertheless, there may have been a tinkle of doubt on the moderator’s behalf, who therefore likely decided to act no further, giving the benefit of the doubt at the time.

Interesting sidenote exercise: Anyone who has fully read the thread so far, try to see if they can now enumerate the 10 steps mentioned on a given post within this thread, in the same order, and bearing a similar concept on each step. I got 4 out of 10 matching order and concept (others items I listed were rather distant on both accounts), having read it twice beforehand. What a memory of mine …

Thought: I’ve often thought that there could be a number of fault points per account, whereby each rule infringement reduced the amount depending on the broken rule, leading to scaled bans when the balance was under a certain threshold. Not going to happen I figure, but I’d ponder such a module (with some added complexities I can think of).

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I don’t want to derail the topic too much here, but your list, whilst bearing logical steps, is not that close a match to the lists I mentioned before, which bear an exact match between them in order and concept per item on the list, with somewhat different wording.

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<…> DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.
I can’t recall if I did, and the historical report window only displays the most recent 30 day window. The fact that the thread was deleted denotes that is was likely reported by someone, and that the moderator took action to delete it (which often happens when a plagiarized post is deleted). Nevertheless, there may have been a tinkle of doubt on the moderator’s behalf, who therefore likely decided to act no further, giving the benefit of the doubt at the time.
It seems from what GeorgeJohn says that he recognizes that he did something wrong.

Interesting sidenote exercise: Anyone who has fully read the thread so far, try to see if they can now enumerate the 10 steps mentioned on a given post within this thread, in the same order, and bearing a similar concept on each step. I got 4 out of 10 matching order and concept (others items I listed were rather distant on both accounts), having read it twice beforehand. What a memory of mine …

But are you trying you memorize it without having used Bitcoin ATMs many times? I haven't, but I have used cash ATMs thousands of times and I can tell you from memory the steps (the last time was yesterday, although I guess the steps can change from country to country):

1) Insert your debit or credit card.
2) Select language
3) Enter PIN.
4) Select "withdraw"
5) Select or type in the amount.
6) Take the cash
7) Choose if you want a printed receipt
Cool Choose if you want to do another transaction.
9) Take your card.

I've just written this from memory and I've googled it and I see quite similar results. That's what I meant when I said that for someone used to using Bitcoin ATMs a lot, the steps would be common knowledge. Those are not original thoughts that I've copied, it's not like I am pretending that the general theory of relativity is an original thought of mine.

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I don’t want to derail the topic too much here, but your list, whilst bearing logical steps, is not that close a match to the lists I mentioned before, which bear an exact match between them in order and concept per item on the list, with somewhat different wording.
Not only the words, but the image.

Common steps and use similar or different words, it is too much coincidence.
Image, how the writer got that image?

If it is from any article and if from the article you shown, it is a proof that the content is likely copied and pasted with some minor word changes.

Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.
344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

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