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September 19, 2021, 04:04:17 AM
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My only concern is the bad part. Did you tell them that there'll be storms? Did you explain that there's a bull run but sometimes a bear run? Because I am sure that you definitely not want them blaming you for any of their loss. Whenever I bring people to crypto or tell them about investments, I also let them know that it can be risky. I hope you did this, if not, you can still tell them while it's early.

Yes, you should have mentioned the time period for which they should hold this investment. You have bought all these coins at high current prices and if bitcoin starts dumping today, your uncle portfolio will be 30 - 40% down. He may not be ready to see this loss in his portfolio (although there is no loss if you don't sell in loss).

If he is investing for 4 - 5 years, then there is no issue and this is the best investment.
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September 19, 2021, 06:35:03 AM
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There are certain risks in investing in any cryptocurrency. When you help non-cryptographers to invest in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, you should tell them the risks. Everyone has the right to know their investment! I think the comprehensive introduction really helps the non-cryptographers!
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September 19, 2021, 06:40:53 AM
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Do they know the risk already or have you told them about the risks in investing bitcoin because I don't see them in your post OP, if you haven't told them about it, you better tell it to them now because they will probably panic when they experience the volatility that bitcoin has.

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September 19, 2021, 06:46:57 AM
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There are certain risks in investing in any cryptocurrency. When you help non-cryptographers to invest in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, you should tell them the risks. Everyone has the right to know their investment! I think the comprehensive introduction really helps the non-cryptographers!

maybe not a good idea if they are too newbies. you don't want them to go into the labyrinth of cryptocurrencies and then make them submit KYC yet. if they are just willing to hold, just tell them to hold or stake. congrats to OP, you will not be blamed if you just choose the good investment and make them hold.

but the uncle seem to be experienced in the stock market which he knew one could buy and sell. the uncle is the easier person to teach because he knows already what to do.

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September 19, 2021, 07:14:31 AM
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Helping others to invest in bitcoin is a good thing, but before they enter the market at least you have told them about the pros and cons of investing in crypto and taught them some basic analysis so as not to blame you when they lose, because usually beginners will be very greedy with market movements.

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September 19, 2021, 07:57:02 AM
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Tell them about the downside risk and have strategies for getting out. Taking profits is never wrong, that's the principle in investing.
I hope the market keeps moving forward and gives them big profits. Because when the market is long-term bearish, your loved ones will probably be upset because of you.
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September 19, 2021, 08:01:09 AM
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Otherwise, i only suggest buying a whole bitcoin.
Why? I don't understand the fixation that people have with whole numbers. I have a friend who is slowly showing some interest in Bitcoin, but he is so concerned about owning a whole Bitcoin and is not considering smaller amounts. One day he said he doesn't think he will ever have enough to purchase 1 BTC. I keep telling him how ridiculous that is, because he can purchase much smaller amounts. I tried to make a comparison with fiat and explained it to him like this:

When you get your monthly salary, you aren't getting round numbers. You aren't being paid $10.000 a month. Maybe you earn $1374/month. You didn't turn your job down because the pay isn't a nice round number. Why don't you apply the same logic to Bitcoin?


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Can I ask what level of experience and knowledge you have about crypto and what research have you done to feel comfortable in recommending those coins to your family? Where are they storing their digital assets? What did you tell them about protecting private keys and seeds? Crypto isn't like the stock market? If Bitcoin dumps, so will the rest of your uncle's portfolio. If Bitcoin rises, so will the majority of alts.   

Very good portfolio. It is recommended by almost the majority to invest in the top 10 of the crypto market.
Recommended by whom? How profitable will that investment be long-term? Check the top 10 coins from 10 years ago, do you recognize any? Check the top 10 from 5 years ago, how many of those are still in the Top 10 today?

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September 19, 2021, 08:27:03 AM
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When you get your monthly salary, you aren't getting round numbers. You aren't being paid $10.000 a month. Maybe you earn $1374/month. You didn't turn your job down because the pay isn't a nice round number. Why don't you apply the same logic to Bitcoin?
Exactly what to say, it should be invest of what you can afford to lose because maybe someday they will back and ask you why the value of bitcoin holding at are losing value and the amount should not affect to their monthly allowance and buying the whole number of bitcoin is too much expensive as of now. But as OP said, their relative is an investor and maybe they understand the risk upon investing in bitcoin. I hope they fully understand the whole concept of bitcoin investment so that they will not become frustrated when the market price drop.
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September 19, 2021, 10:03:04 AM
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I feel really happy today. I can't share my feelings exactly. 

Good to know that you are introducing people to the crypto world. I have a few questions:
Did you tell her about the risk in crypto investment? Most people made investments in crypto because of profit, but they don't know there is also a huge risk available to lose all of their capital.
If yes, what was your uncle's answer?
For how long you/your uncle will hold those coins?
You/your uncle using stop loss to hold those coins?
Where are you guys holding those coins?(just curious)


There is no doubt you guys bought some legit coin. I am also holding Cardano for the long run.
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September 19, 2021, 10:50:45 AM
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@Imran232
Can I ask what level of experience and knowledge you have about crypto and what research have you done to feel comfortable in recommending those coins to your family? Where are they storing their digital assets? What did you tell them about protecting private keys and seeds? Crypto isn't like the stock market? If Bitcoin dumps, so will the rest of your uncle's portfolio. If Bitcoin rises, so will the majority of alts.   

You ask the right questions, because investing is actually the easiest part of the whole process, and preparing to properly secure and understand digital assets is far more complex. I hope that the relatives have understood what the risk is and that they are ready for possible losses - because it is easy to be optimistic in the bull market, but when things go south, panic takes its victims very quickly and efficiently.

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September 19, 2021, 10:51:27 AM
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Very good brother. One day god will give you reward for helping others.
There is no doubt bitcoin is the king of all crypto currency coins. But now bitcoin price is very high. If anyone want to invest then invest in every
price dump. But there is a very popular proverb " Don't put all eggs in one basket" So, don't invest all funds in one coin. Invest in different coins with small amount. You have selected all the good coins for investment.

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September 19, 2021, 10:59:59 AM
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Very good brother. One day god will give you reward for helping others.
There is no doubt bitcoin is the king of all crypto currency coins. But now bitcoin price is very high. If anyone want to invest then invest in every
price dump. But there is a very popular proverb " Don't put all eggs in one basket" So, don't invest all funds in one coin. Invest in different coins with small amount. You have selected all the good coins for investment.

This proverb doesn't count when it comes to the cryptocurrency market,because all altcoin prices are more or less following the Bitcoin price.When there's a bull market-all coins are pumping,when there's a bear market-all coins are dumping.There aren't any conditions for proper diversification and creating a well balanced portfolio.
I'm pretty sure that this DYDX token is pretty much hyped up and it's price will slowly go down in the next months.
Anyway,OP,I hope that your relatives won't panic and sell everything when the first price crash/bear market occurs.
I also hope that you told them how to protect their coins from hacks,scams,etc...

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September 19, 2021, 11:39:13 AM
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Then my uncle says, "Only Bitcoin is not an option because its price is too high.
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My uncle's investment : $25000 (Total)
I'm curious to know what was your response to what your uncle said about BTCitcoin?
- He was never going to buy a whole BTCitcoin with that $25k!

DYDX: $1330 Buy average ($15.7 price)
This is amount they invest for long time
If that's among the coins that you've chosen, then what makes you think it's going to last for a long time?

It is recommended by almost the majority to invest in the top 10 of the crypto market.
What makes you think they're correct?

If he is investing for 4 - 5 years, then there is no issue and this is the best investment.
There's actually a common issue with a lot of altcoins: They don't last long enough [Dead Coins or List of dead coins].
- I haven't checked every single one of them, but I'm sure there are some that didn't even last a few months!

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September 19, 2021, 12:01:56 PM
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While helping them in investimg into crypto is not a bad thing to do, but I am more concerned about the repercussions later on. If the market goes well, nothing bad will happen but if it doesn't, that the problem will start occurring. This is not a small amount your relatives have invested. I hope they have taken this decision on their own so that they don't blame you for anything. Relatives are quite tricky to handle.

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Well that's a good idea, but in my personal opinion let them know how risky its as well despite of the advantages of crypto currency from other way of investment , i mean so that they're aware and ready to handle every situation in the crypto market. because you know not all the time you're with them to assist and to give an advice especially when they're worried about their money when there's a normal fluctuation of the market , maybe they will blame you at the end of the day when something bad happens to their investment. Lol so i suggest to give them some specific information so they will know..
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September 19, 2021, 12:47:29 PM
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I should give appreciation to you, because you have succeeded in inviting two people to invest in bitcoin, my advice from now on you must guide them, and teach them to be able to invest in bitcoin, so that they are not deceived by greedy people,
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September 19, 2021, 01:12:28 PM
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You must be feeling really happy right now for helping people get into the crypto community but I hope you have made them understand the basics.
Getting new people into crypto is good but it's our duty to make them understand the pros and cons of it as well.
The huge volatility and high price fluctuations followed by the long bull and bear markets and network congestions are things worth mentioning.
If you did that then well and good but if you didn't then you should let them know.
Also, tell them to keep reading about cryptocurrencies and stay up to date with the latest crypto news as well.
This will keep them updated, excited and will make them feel they are a part of the community.

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September 19, 2021, 01:21:50 PM
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I am glad that the OP is about to convince people. I gave up doing that many years ago. I made my first investment in 2012, when I purchased Bitcoins from LBC. And one year prior to that, in 2011 one Ukrainian guy (with whom I was working on a freelancing project) tried to convince me about Bitcoin. I refused to listen to him, and this is one of the biggest regrets in my life. And in 2013 and 2014, I tried to convince some of my friends and relatives to use BTC. But the reaction was very hostile and many of them accused me of trying to force them to invest in scams. After some time I gave up. Now I am sure that many of them will be regretting about it.
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September 19, 2021, 03:52:06 PM
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This can be very good for them and did a good job to help them invest no matter of the price and the coins you bought for them for you had to consider telling them about the risk can have in this market, many other people expecting to see the same system as stocks market so you will need to first tell them about the risk and make sure if they know what they are buying, maybe talking with them for a few hours and explaining them about bitcoin can be helpful so they will not invest with closed eyes. Also, don't forget to tell the new investors about the timeframe because most of the people earn amazing profits over their investments on the crypto market hold for the long term.

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September 19, 2021, 05:01:06 PM
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I'd also be concerned if you were blamed for their misconduct/misfortune. I also invited two friends of mine a few months ago, but made sure to warn them that I'm not responsible for anything nor take my advice for granted, in case anything happen. Likewise, I've heard quite a few incidents of newbies losing their money and then blaming their mistakes on someone else.

In your case, you've mentioned that he has experience with the stock market, thus, he's probably more capable than the average newbie. On top of that, his portfolio is consisted of a variety of coins, too wide in my opinion, but may balance the risk if one or more altcoins enter the bear market.

Just make sure that you are not held liable for any kind of misfortune that may turn up.

 
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