Karnataka ( A state in India ) they introduced bill in assembly to ban o.gamblin

[Vishnu.Reang]

Before the government investigates us, they need to ask the ISP provider because that is related to our connection and if they find that we use VPN for playing gambling, they can catch us with a search warrant. I hope those people will all be fine and not trying to break their law.

There are certain formalities before the government agencies can request that sort of information from the internet provider. So they can't just randomly check the internet access of some guy who is waging $10 or $20 in online gambling. And for search warrant, the requirements are even stricter. The judge or some other higher ranking official needs to agree to the finding that there is a reasonable suspicion that the individual is engaged in illegal activity. Anyway these sort of stupid laws will be struck down by the courts once someone files a PIL.

[nurilham]

actually not only Kartanaka, i think there are many countries that still ban gambling. even the punishment is great as is said for the one who transgresses it. actually it depends on the rules and traditions of the country itself whether or not gambling is allowed. fortunately in my country gambling is still accepted so there are still many people that join it and many people are helped by it.

[bryant.coleman]

actually not only Kartanaka, i think there are many countries that still ban gambling. even the punishment is great as is said for the one who transgresses it. actually it depends on the rules and traditions of the country itself whether or not gambling is allowed. fortunately in my country gambling is still accepted so there are still many people that join it and many people are helped by it.

There may be countries and territories that ban gambling. But how many of them actually punish the gamblers? If they are punishing the organizers, then I can understand that. They are profiting out of illegal business and that goes against the prevailing laws. But punishing ordinary gamblers is a bit too far. It is just authoritarian encroachment in one's personal choice. I am not sure whether someone can be punished for just participating in gambling. Maybe a monetary fine of $10 or $20 can be justified. But definitely not a prison term.

[ethereumhunter]

Before the government investigates us, they need to ask the ISP provider because that is related to our connection and if they find that we use VPN for playing gambling, they can catch us with a search warrant. I hope those people will all be fine and not trying to break their law.

There are certain formalities before the government agencies can request that sort of information from the internet provider. So they can't just randomly check the internet access of some guy who is waging $10 or $20 in online gambling. And for search warrant, the requirements are even stricter. The judge or some other higher ranking official needs to agree to the finding that there is a reasonable suspicion that the individual is engaged in illegal activity. Anyway these sort of stupid laws will be struck down by the courts once someone files a PIL.

You are right. So from that, it is better to play safe and not use a VPN for something that can break our law and not get investigated by the police. Maybe if the rule is applied, people will not touch online gambling but can play offline gambling in a secret place without police knowing. As we know, once a gambler feels the excitement of playing gambling, he will try to come back in the other days and if he can not play online gambling, he will search for the local place to play gambling.

[qwertyup23]

actually not only Kartanaka, i think there are many countries that still ban gambling. even the punishment is great as is said for the one who transgresses it. actually it depends on the rules and traditions of the country itself whether or not gambling is allowed. fortunately in my country gambling is still accepted so there are still many people that join it and many people are helped by it.

There may be countries and territories that ban gambling. But how many of them actually punish the gamblers? If they are punishing the organizers, then I can understand that. They are profiting out of illegal business and that goes against the prevailing laws. But punishing ordinary gamblers is a bit too far. It is just authoritarian encroachment in one's personal choice. I am not sure whether someone can be punished for just participating in gambling. Maybe a monetary fine of $10 or $20 can be justified. But definitely not a prison term.

Violators can be held liable depending on the Bill that surrounds the prohibition in gambling. Just like in Dubai, even the slightest mistake could make a person liable to a hefty fine or imprisonment depending on the degree on of your infraction.

With the bill being introduced in India, I do suspect that their Congress would make the necessary adjustments as to how they would punish violators of such. Completely prohibiting gambling on one state could bring more harm than good (economically) since it gives such state the funding that their government needs for the improvement of the general welfare.

[madnessteat]

My question is, why are they only banning one state? because the people out there have high ratings of addiction to gambling or there might be another reason that they don't tell us about. Anyway if this is just a step for something like a drill before putting it as one of their law in the entire country then they're making some good steps here by choosing the most affected state in their country. The other state should be ready as well because this kind of bill will be introduced to their state as well.

Gambling is banned in almost all states of India with the exception of three states. This law introduces amendments that toughen penalties for gambling and I think that this bill is a pilot so it is not immediately introduced throughout the country.

" It provides for enhancing punishment for gambling to wean citizens away from the vice of gambling, extending to three years and fine up to Rs one lakh.

It said the punishment for the first offence would be six months imprisonment and fine of Rs 10,000, for the second, one year imprisonment and fine of Rs 15,000, and for the third offence, 18 months imprisonment and fine of Rs 20,000. Persons aiding or abetting such online gaming would also be punished, it added. "

Source: https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/

[Ryker1]

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What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)

Well for now --people of Karnataka must follow this introduced bill to avoid punishment, this is too strict and I won't risk my life and be in jail just to gamble. I like the other thread where I was commented, they have a campaign of educating people towards gambling, and instead of banning it, just accept and educate your people for the possible risk that they perhaps encounter. That is the law that we must follow, you can migrate into other countries that dont have banned gambling. But I think this is not new, most Islamic states where gambling was strictly prohibited because this is against their religion and part of their religious belief.

[Saint-loup]

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What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)

Well for now --people of Karnataka must follow this introduced bill to avoid punishment, this is too strict and I won't risk my life and be in jail just to gamble. I like the other thread where I was commented, they have a campaign of educating people towards gambling, and instead of banning it, just accept and educate your people for the possible risk that they perhaps encounter. That is the law that we must follow, you can migrate into other countries that dont have banned gambling. But I think this is not new, most Islamic states where gambling was strictly prohibited because this is against their religion and part of their religious belief.

India is not an islamic country, so that's sad to read this kind of news from authorities of this country. But I think they don't do it for the sake of morality but simply to redirect funds from online gambling games to their national gambling games like horse races and lottery, it's just an hypocritical measure in my humble opinion.

[harizen]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/

Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.

Prior to implementing that law, I think that went in a legal process and there are reasons and factors they looked at why create a law about that. I don't know the gambling situation there but maybe it's really worst and the negative effect of it are now devastating the lives of others.

If the local government there doesn't benefit to gambling, while at the same time, just wrecking people's lives there, it's a good action that they now ban gambling in that area. Legal or illegal gambling, everything is covered.

[goinmerry]

Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.

Online gambling only?

If that's the agreement then maybe Karnataka wants the gambling revenue just to be focused on their physical casinos there. If the state is really in need of revenue as India itself got heavily affected by Covid-19, then they plan very well to solve it. Online gambling becomes a trendy activity while being lockdown as physical casinos are close. But if that applies to all gambling, online or physical, then maybe that state now put an end to any gambling activities.

[Sithara007]

Online gambling only?

If that's the agreement then maybe Karnataka wants the gambling revenue just to be focused on their physical casinos there. If the state is really in need of revenue as India itself got heavily affected by Covid-19, then they plan very well to solve it. Online gambling becomes a trendy activity while being lockdown as physical casinos are close. But if that applies to all gambling, online or physical, then maybe that state now put an end to any gambling activities.

You are not fully understanding the reason why they came up with such a law. In the neighboring state of Goa, gambling is legal. But many of the casinos have witnessed a decline in revenues for the last one and half years as a result of the COVID pandemic. The casinos are actually blaming online gambling. There are rumors that a number politicians in Karnataka own casinos in Goa. And this is what prompted the government to come up with such a stupid law. But I don't think that such idiotic laws will be taken in to account by the courts.

[traderethereum]

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What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)

Well for now --people of Karnataka must follow this introduced bill to avoid punishment, this is too strict and I won't risk my life and be in jail just to gamble. I like the other thread where I was commented, they have a campaign of educating people towards gambling, and instead of banning it, just accept and educate your people for the possible risk that they perhaps encounter. That is the law that we must follow, you can migrate into other countries that dont have banned gambling. But I think this is not new, most Islamic states where gambling was strictly prohibited because this is against their religion and part of their religious belief.

India is not an islamic country, so that's sad to read this kind of news from authorities of this country. But I think they don't do it for the sake of morality but simply to redirect funds from online gambling games to their national gambling games like horse races and lottery, it's just an hypocritical measure in my humble opinion.

Maybe their income from the local casino is reduced because online gambling has become popular, especially in this pandemic.
So they decide to make that law to force online gambling but if they do not do the same with the offline casino, that will not work because people will still play gambling and go to the offline casino.
But I do not think that migrating to other countries can solve this problem as we do not know the conditions of that country.
So there is no other way for us just to follow their law.

[bryant.coleman]

Maybe their income from the local casino is reduced because online gambling has become popular, especially in this pandemic.
So they decide to make that law to force online gambling but if they do not do the same with the offline casino, that will not work because people will still play gambling and go to the offline casino.
But I do not think that migrating to other countries can solve this problem as we do not know the conditions of that country.
So there is no other way for us just to follow their law.

If this is the real reason for the ban, then I won't be surprised. In India, a lot of things are banned every now and then, just because they don't align with the business interests of the politicians. Take the vaccination against COVID 19 as an example. Sputnik V applied for EUA almost 7 months ago. But still, they are not allowed full access, because the ruling party politicians are having a business interest in the competitor (COVAXIN, manufactured by Bharat Biotech). Sputnik V is having an efficacy of 92% compared to 60% for CoVaxin, but the Indian government has so far only allowed trial vaccination with Sputnik V.

[Lucasgabd]

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I can agree with you here. We have seen countries totally banning drugs and yet, they still have drug users. So same with this problem, even if their government totally banned gambling, some of these gamblers will find a way how to get around this government protocol. And underground gambling may soon arise instead. Gambling is already part of humanity. So maybe better regulate it rather than ban it. At least the government is getting something from it.

exactly!
you can't ban human nature

I agree too, probably regulating and making sure some people don't abuse when providing gambling services (like with addicted machines that don't pay out a prize or whatever) would be a way.

the thing is that the more I see the more I realize government is really inefficient in doing things