[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[boyptc]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

[Dave1]

Casimero is so brandish, arrogant and doesn't have the magnet that Manny has when he was in his prime. In any case, I'm rooting for Casimero to win and then challenge Inoue next year.

being a PH boxing legend doesn't have to be exactly like Manny Pacquiao or remotely like him. Casimero only has to prove himself in the ring and in the world that he is a deserving boxer. look at Mayweather, whether we like it or not he is a boxing legend too, yet his attitude has nothing in common with Pacquiao.

But Manny has step up the bar for Filipino athletes to follow, he eclipse Elorde's fame. Donaire could be consider a legend as well, but then again, he doesn't have  that charisma to boxing fans.

Mayweather is different though, he put people in seats because they wanted to see him lose, but they are all wrong. So for me to be a legend, it's not just about your accomplished inside the ring, but the total package, attitude etc. And that what's separate Manny Pacquiao from the rest of the boxers, he is well respected amongst peers, trainers and boxers alike, and that's why he beat Floyd as boxer of the decade. And now Floyd is doing boxing exhibitions, all for the money and not for his legacy.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Butler could probably make more money by stepping aside and allowing Casimero to fight Inoue. Inoue needs an opponent for the end of the year and it would be a shame if he couldn't fight a big name due to the sanctioning bodies getting in the way. Hopefully an agreement is reached and we will see a unification fight instead of the mandatory.

Who says that though? I mean if it's not official then shouldn't we bother too much? How can Butler make more money when he steps aside to give way to Inoue?

If it goes to purse bids he only gets 20% of the bid and it is also not expected to be a very large bid. Getting step aside money and a shot at the Inoue-Casimero winner is without a doubt more lucrative than getting paid a low purse in a fight he is expected to lose. It doesn't matter anymore because they did not reach an agreement and the purse bid is already scheduled.

[sunsilk]

Casimero is likely going to be the flag bearer and even there's no one that can be par with him, maybe he's going to be the successor.

I don't believe that Casimero would be the successor and basing up on what had Pacquiao done in the past then he is much more supportive to Inoue.
https://sports.yahoo.com/power-puncher-naoya-inoue-following-manny-pacquiaos-path-to-boxing-glory-190952608.html

Well as a fellow countrymen then I wouldn't really blame out people to have this view.

Well, I'm not an expert on how do I see things but we'll see it after a year or two on who will be the next Manny Pacquiao. There's no comparison on whoever will be the next people's champ.

It is true that achievements are far from each other compare to Pacquiao.

During his career in the world of boxing, pacman has managed to have a pretty good career and he managed to record 62 wins (39 KOs), 8 losses and 2 draws and so far he has also won belts in eight classes, in my opinion in the near future maybe it will be very difficult for us to find someone like pacman. but of course the laws of nature will prevail and when one disappears, there will surely be another to replace it and one after another will change.



GOOD LUCK PACMAN AND  THANKS FOR EVERYTHING

Whoever it will be, I'm sure that there's one that will be close to his achievements if not going to surpass but yes, it's better to wait and see what the future lies with boxing.

Now, let's head to the discussion about Casimero and Butler.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

It might be better if he will win here, if he loses then goes down his stock as well. At least a win will give him a bargaining power at least, 65-35 split or higher for Inoue, it's not that bad.

The Casimero vs Donaire can wait in my opinion, the most lucrative fight for him is Inoue. And that is the fight that if ever he loses, he can still chase Donaire. Or we might see a fight like the Pacquiao-Morales-Barrera. 3 fighters on their prime at featherweight division.

[freedomgo]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon  

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

It might be better if he will win here, if he loses then goes down his stock as well. At least a win will give him a bargaining power at least, 65-35 split or higher for Inoue, it's not that bad.

The Casimero vs Donaire can wait in my opinion, the most lucrative fight for him is Inoue. And that is the fight that if ever he loses, he can still chase Donaire. Or we might see a fight like the Pacquiao-Morales-Barrera. 3 fighters on their prime at featherweight division.

I don't think 65-35 is fair considering Casimero is also a champion, I guess 60-40 sharing would be fair enough, just like when Manny fought Mayweather IIRC. I'm excited to see the two monster clash, but this mandatory fight cannot be taken for granted, so Casimero has to take care of this first then Inoue will be next.

[bitterguy28]

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

That is a Big possibility but of course there is Donaire that one of them may be facing.

so it will be there for the WBC to decide.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

Donaire is also near to decide of retiring as i believe he is already wanted .

and now that Manny Pacquiao is retired formally then He will be the next to be expected .

[arwin100]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

It will be nice if Casimero will win on this fight since Inoue will possibly see him as good opponent to fight compare if he will lose unto this fight where Inoue might think that he's not worth it since he didn't even win his last fight.

Also maybe Inoue vs Casimero will go first before that Donaire vs Casimero fight happens.

[Sanitough]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

It will be nice if Casimero will win on this fight since Inoue will possibly see him as good opponent to fight compare if he will lose unto this fight where Inoue might think that he's not worth it since he didn't even win his last fight.

Also maybe Inoue vs Casimero will go first before that Donaire vs Casimero fight happens.

I hope so because it's long overdue already, we've see an Inoue vs Donaire fight already, so we already have an idea of a possible result of the fight, but an Inoue vs Casimero fight, this is something specially, one champion is challenging another champion, so this should happen.

[Fredomago]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

It will be nice if Casimero will win on this fight since Inoue will possibly see him as good opponent to fight compare if he will lose unto this fight where Inoue might think that he's not worth it since he didn't even win his last fight.

Also maybe Inoue vs Casimero will go first before that Donaire vs Casimero fight happens.

Very possible that Inoue and Casimero if the fight favor Casimero. We know that Inoue's interest is already there he just waiting for is promoter to agree and make a good deal with Casimero's  camp.

It would be nice if Casimero beat Butler with a KO to attract more fans to call for the fight against Inoue.

He done it before, gaining the attention after trash talking Inoue, with a KO against Butler it will being more interest with the boxing crowd.

[markdario112616]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Though, If Casimero fell short against Butler, Inoue and Donaire will be the first thing to happen then whoever wins there will be challenged by Casimero or If not he'll be going up for a rematch. Well for me either each one of them fight Inoue will surely be a great fight.

[Hypnosis00]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Though, If Casimero fell short against Butler, Inoue and Donaire will be the first thing to happen then whoever wins there will be challenged by Casimero or If not he'll be going up for a rematch. Well for me either each one of them fight Inoue will surely be a great fight.

There's no hype anymore for Casimero if he loses against Butler, therefore it's important for him to win this fight and make sure he has an impressive win so he could finally get a big fight against Inoue. Butler is not the kind of fighter that could beat Casimero, but if he will not take Butler seriously, well, an upset might happen here.

[dunfida]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Though, If Casimero fell short against Butler, Inoue and Donaire will be the first thing to happen then whoever wins there will be challenged by Casimero or If not he'll be going up for a rematch. Well for me either each one of them fight Inoue will surely be a great fight.

There's no hype anymore for Casimero if he loses against Butler, therefore it's important for him to win this fight and make sure he has an impressive win so he could finally get a big fight against Inoue. Butler is not the kind of fighter that could beat Casimero, but if he will not take Butler seriously, well, an upset might happen here.

Upsets could happen anytime thats why its never been suggested for a fighter to be that careless no matter how good he is or had some advantage compared into his opponent but that wont be enough to guarantee

a sure win even the hype is really on the rooftop that Casimero wont really be having any problems with Butler but as mentioned that anything could really happen and thats why he shouldnt really be that

too confident because single mistake could really result into devastation.

[boyptc]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Though, If Casimero fell short against Butler, Inoue and Donaire will be the first thing to happen then whoever wins there will be challenged by Casimero or If not he'll be going up for a rematch. Well for me either each one of them fight Inoue will surely be a great fight.

That means that Donaire has lost his interest to Casimero despite the talks that Casimero did to him?

Well, so that feud is already stopped and both fighters are aiming to fight against Inoue. We might even see it first the rematch of Inoue and Donaire if Casimero vs Butler goes on hand.

[harizen]

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Casimero already make peace with Donaire and following that, the mandatory fight given to them was announced. I'm now thinking that Casimero really just hyped the fight against Donaire and willing to cross the lines to promote the fight but since it's not happened, he now makes an apology.

Regardless, a win should be established to their respective fights or else, no more fight against Inoue on their future match.

[Yaunfitda]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

With what happen between Casimero and Donaire, it seems that this is far from happening. It's Donaire doesn't want to fight him ever or he is just avoiding Casimero in any way possible. Both are for Inoue, though Casimero on the other hand will likely land this one.

Though, If Casimero fell short against Butler, Inoue and Donaire will be the first thing to happen then whoever wins there will be challenged by Casimero or If not he'll be going up for a rematch. Well for me either each one of them fight Inoue will surely be a great fight.

There's no hype anymore for Casimero if he loses against Butler, therefore it's important for him to win this fight and make sure he has an impressive win so he could finally get a big fight against Inoue. Butler is not the kind of fighter that could beat Casimero, but if he will not take Butler seriously, well, an upset might happen here.

Well there could be, if he continues to trash talk against Donaire and Inoue.

But of course, a win will really propel his name against a match with his fellow Filipino Donaire and then the Inoue. So hopefully he will win against Butler, not underestimate him or not think about the future fights on those two fiighters, otherwise he will be distracted. We have heard boxers, focusing on their next future fights and not the current one and then loss the fight, derail the future plan. Hopefully, Casimero is not this kind of boxer.

[Johnyz]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

Probably a higher chance to fight Inoue if Casimero wins but if he loses on this match, they can still fix it as long as the contract is in favor to Inoue and that is for sure. Inoue is their main goal to be the first boxer to landed a lost to Inoue, either Donaire or Casimero they really want this so bad. Well, if the trash talking continues with Casimero and Donaire, I don't think their fight will push through, Donaire don't want that kind of game though.

[goinmerry]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

Probably a higher chance to fight Inoue if Casimero wins but if he loses on this match, they can still fix it as long as the contract is in favor to Inoue and that is for sure. Inoue is their main goal to be the first boxer to landed a lost to Inoue, either Donaire or Casimero they really want this so bad. Well, if the trash talking continues with Casimero and Donaire, I don't think their fight will push through, Donaire don't want that kind of game though.

Inoue will lose interest in fighting Casimero if the latter will lose.

How can a champion accept a challenge from a boxer that just got lost? Casimero will need to fight again another good boxer at his level and win before challenging Inoue again. We should talk first about the strength of Butler. We are advancing already to Inoue where Butler can also be a threat to Casimero's legacy. We are driven by the hype of Casimero disregarding Butler's skill.

[Quidat]

I am also Aiming for Casimero to Win but not because I want him to Win instead I want him to be defeated by Inoue or Donaire soon 

So if Casimero vs Butler is done and whether Casimero loses or wins on this match, he's still going for Inoue.

I think if we want to see the match of him against Donaire, it will take a year before we see that happen if he has to fight next Inoue.

Probably a higher chance to fight Inoue if Casimero wins but if he loses on this match, they can still fix it as long as the contract is in favor to Inoue and that is for sure. Inoue is their main goal to be the first boxer to landed a lost to Inoue, either Donaire or Casimero they really want this so bad. Well, if the trash talking continues with Casimero and Donaire, I don't think their fight will push through, Donaire don't want that kind of game though.

Trashtalks is something not a valid reason for a certain boxer to back out if there would be some potential match ups against with other boxers.We know that this had been a typical behavior for some but well this is personal
input and decisions to be made but if it turns out to be mandatory then theres nothing they can do but to deal and agree with it.Losing into this upcoming matches would neither or wouldnt really affect their possible
fight with Inoue but it is much more better if it turns out to be a win so that at least have some boost up or have some confidence in doing so.

[chaser15]

But of course, a win will really propel his name against a match with his fellow Filipino Donaire and then the Inoue. So hopefully he will win against Butler, not underestimate him or not think about the future fights on those two fiighters, otherwise he will be distracted. We have heard boxers, focusing on their next future fights and not the current one and then loss the fight, derail the future plan. Hopefully, Casimero is not this kind of boxer.

Casimero should not keep Inoue on his mind now that he has an upcoming match to settle. His focus should only be on Butler, not with Inoue, Donaire, or anyone.

If Inoue is always on his mind, it won't help his desire to fight that champion in the future as that will be a distraction. Butler also has the same goal, to defeat anyone on his way. Like how we desire Casimero to win, Butler also has the same desire.