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[pooya87]

As we have already commented in some other threads, people obviously only care about what happened a month or two ago, and they are not too interested in anything older than that. This coincides with short-term profits, so we have more dissatisfied (impatient) who ask "when $100k?", than those who are happy because the price increase is as much as 1800% in a very short period, especially if we take the effects of the pandemic to all other investments.

Interesting theory but it makes no sense to me. If it were 1 or 2 weeks then it would have made some sense at least because that would cover the short term traders at least, anything longer than that falls under the category of long term investors who won't care about 1 or 2 months price changes.
As for the dissatisfied people, in my experience these are the same people who expect price to "pump" every week thinking bitcoin is a way to become a millionaire overnight if they only invest $1 in it. Which has nothing to do with traders or investors, etc.

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[bbc.reporter]

If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.

If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

Agreed. Anyone who larps that there will be a continued bull market for 2022 might be people who are in denial of the reality of market cycles. Also, they might not have considered how much leverage was used to pump bitcoin to its present level. A deleveraging event will always occur when the bubble pops.

I also predict the government to regulate and give powers to stablecoin issuers to manipulate how much liquidity enters the cryptospace and through them the control on who is allowed to access the cryptospace.

[Lucius]

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I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

[jaberwock]

in my opinion, the biggest indicator that there is a significant chance that Bitcoin can continue positively in 2022 lies in the fact that this time the market is strongly influenced by the factor of institutional involvement. I think that factor gives much more credibility to Bitcoin than it has been in the past, and all the good that has been happening in recent months still outweighs all the bad news, or maybe it's better to say all the news that the media wants to portray as extremely bad.

That is basically what it could be done in the future at the same time as well. Yes, bitcoin has increased a lot, and it has made some people millionaires with the type of increase it has, but that doesn't change the fact that if you buy right now, you will not get rich and become a millionaire with only a few thousand dollar investment. Do you really believe that there is a chance to get 100x return from bitcoin? I doubt that is possible. So, all those people who are upset over bitcoin price get upset not only because the price didn't go up as they imagined it would, they are also upset about the fact that there is no way they could make the kind of profit others before them made.

[darewaller]

I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

That is because people are not really well versed in crypto just yet. Most of the time newbies are here, the old veterans do not write daily and constantly, I have been here for many years and I rather talk about other stuff, not how to trade, I can't really bother to teach people how to make money from crypto.

However, newbies are here all the time and they talk about it and someone who has been trading for a month end up talking about how to make money, like dude when did you become an expert and started to teach people how to trade. I personally prefer to do this alone and without anyone’s help if I were a newbie these days, do not ask people how to do something, learn it from google and courses and youtube videos, that would be a lot better.

[bbc.reporter]

If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.

If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

Agreed. Anyone who larps that there will be a continued bull market for 2022 might be people who are in denial of the reality of market cycles. Also, they might not have considered how much leverage was used to pump bitcoin to its present level. A deleveraging event will always occur when the bubble pops.

I also predict the government to regulate and give powers to stablecoin issuers to manipulate how much liquidity enters the cryptospace and through them the control on who is allowed to access the cryptospace.

It appears that the roadmap to regulate and control these stablecoin issuers is being created. The regulations might not be released on 2022 but the only way to control the cryptospace is also to have control on the central source of its liquidity. After a crackdown on stablecoins will be strict regulations.



The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC), a key U.S. banking regulator, is studying whether certain stablecoins might be eligible for its coverage, five people familiar with the agency’s thinking said.

The discussions are preliminary, and it’s not clear what the timetable would be for making any policy decisions or how such changes would be communicated.

Source https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/10/06/us-fdic-said-to-be-studying-deposit-insurance-for-stablecoins/

[FanEagle]

The odds are at a good place right now, 60+ to 30+ is a good odd to be honest, I wouldn't want to be in a circle jerk situation where 90%+ says we are going to be in a bull run, that is not really cool to be in because you are not going to get true outcomes and beliefs in that situation, it is going to be just bunch of people who think the same all got together, which makes no sense to me.

I believe we are doing fine right now, and we are going to see new ATH next year, but I am also saying kudos to everyone who believes it will be crypto winter as well, and enjoyed every post that says so. I personally care about every angle and not just with people I agree with.

[Kemarit]

The odds are at a good place right now, 60+ to 30+ is a good odd to be honest, I wouldn't want to be in a circle jerk situation where 90%+ says we are going to be in a bull run, that is not really cool to be in because you are not going to get true outcomes and beliefs in that situation, it is going to be just bunch of people who think the same all got together, which makes no sense to me.

I believe we are doing fine right now, and we are going to see new ATH next year, but I am also saying kudos to everyone who believes it will be crypto winter as well, and enjoyed every post that says so. I personally care about every angle and not just with people I agree with.

Yes, we are obviously doing fine right now, and we might be heading for a new all time high this month alone.

And for those who preach crypto winter as early as time that? Nah, they have their narrative behind pushing down the price in this bullish trend. Obviously, crypto winter will come no matter what, but it's better if we will tackle it when we are there. Not in this kind of sentiments wherein we haven't reach the goal of 6 digits yet for this year.

[RealMalatesta]

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

What is going to happen in 2022 will be highly dependent on where are are going to end 2021. The probable endings of 2021 for bitcoin market are $120k or $190k or $380k. These are based on 10x growth (and repeating of history) in 4 year cycle. (If you consider 10k was the right growth in 2017 then $100k will be the ATH in 2021 because some speculators argue 10k to 19k in December 2017 was a bubble and need to ignore such numbers).

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

If there will be no more growth in 2021 then we will definitely have a new ATH in 2022. But, I do not prefer to break 4 year cycle of bitcoin for any political influences but bitcoin is known for defeating all negative news and to grow on its own potential hence lesser possibilities to have bear markets here after.

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.

If 10x growth will not happen this year then which might be due to correction markets here after and then we may have a new ATH in 2022.

[batang_bitcoin]

I don't want to be negative that the winter will come to crypto again as there's always the cycle. But if it breaks the cycle next year and there's another bull run where it will be reaching another ATH then that's better to see than the bear market.

What is going to happen in 2022 will be highly dependent on where are are going to end 2021. The probable endings of 2021 for bitcoin market are $120k or $190k or $380k. These are based on 10x growth (and repeating of history) in 4 year cycle. (If you consider 10k was the right growth in 2017 then $100k will be the ATH in 2021 because some speculators argue 10k to 19k in December 2017 was a bubble and need to ignore such numbers).

These prices are too high IMHO. $100k is even high but that's the highest that we can ever speculate with a possible accuracy to be ending this year but I would love to see it when it's already $380k.

[STT]

2022 should be a year of accumulation, I dont think we have to get a new high price or anything dramatic but its on the menu.  My feelings for this year was that we had topped and had to revise price action, which we have been doing positively.   Its been bullish but I dont assume we must go upwards immediately, 2022 may well see more pressure occurring with accumulated buying but I have to see it first.   There is always sellers waiting, BTC is just very speculative.

[wxa7115]

If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.

If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

The times ahead of us are going to be quite interesting, I do not have any doubts we are about to see a significant amount of growth during the next months but what will happen after that, are we going to see a repetition of the crash we saw in 2018?

To me that is the most important question we need to figure out, because even if I think that after the bull run a correction is inevitable at the same time I would wish to know how big the correction could be, as I have a slight suspicion that things are not going to be as bad as they got back then and the price will be more stable on its way down.

[BlackHatCoiner]

I think that as time goes by, we should be even less optimistic about huge changes. It's not a million dollar market cap joke anymore, but a trillion. Billionaires can't affect it, the same way they could in 2013 or in 2017. I don't know what will really send it to $100k-ish, $200k-ish, $300k-ish etc, but my opinion is to enjoy what we currently have.

This asset has proved it's gaining more and more attention long term. There's even more speculation which stabilize it in a way. I think that it's meant to succeed and hell yeah, I want to be part of it and increase my accumulation position.

[aoluain]

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I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

Those "when Lambo" people been here for a few years, I would expect them to
have a clearer understanding of the market.

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2022, I'm thinking we cannot necessarily base our outlook on 2017, I get it that there
may be a bit of a sell of at $100k for a few reasons but I think based on this "super cycle"
being mentioned 2022 wont be like 2018.

As above I would like to think that people who experienced 2017 and stayed involved
until now have a better understanding and dont have the Magic Internet Money mentality.

[2double0]

In history, Bitcoin was immature as far as its retail community is considered to be those making markets and then crashing it, then whether we talk about 2013 or 2017, it's every 4 years btc shows some big moves. While it is 2021, btc has not yet started to show any big gains compared to the last 2 quad years in regards to percentage which opens more room for btc to move upwards. We are still waiting for an ETF to be approved by SEC and if it happens, we cannot imagine where will btc stop and I think history will not repeat itself through a market crash in the later period, but this run will continue to grow.

[sheenshane]

In history, Bitcoin was immature as far as its retail community is considered to be those making markets and then crashing it, then whether we talk about 2013 or 2017, it's every 4 years btc shows some big moves. While it is 2021, btc has not yet started to show any big gains compared to the last 2 quad years in regards to percentage which opens more room for btc to move upwards. We are still waiting for an ETF to be approved by SEC and if it happens, we cannot imagine where will btc stop and I think history will not repeat itself through a market crash in the later period, but this run will continue to grow.

Do you believe that Bitcoin price will create a double ATH on this year if we remember the last ATH was in April this month and the price was in the $60k range and then suddenly dropped by mid of July?  I think it is, many speculations that there will be a new ATH this year before or after the Q4 will end.

Though the FUD of China continued spreading Bitcoin wasn't affected.  We still reached the $54k range yesterday and that was a good sign that right after correction it will pump again until it will break the previous and considering a new ATH will come.

Anyway, as a majority vote wins, there will be a new ATH.

[gabbie2010]

I think that 2022 will be one of the greatest years for Bitcoin on the condition that we don't see any bull run before the end of this year. Because if we see it in this year, then there will be not much left for 2022 actually. Because the bull market will end at some point and a new bear market will greet us for a long time I believe. So, 2022 could be a boring year then.

I agreed with your prediction for Bitcoin to be bullish come 2022, it price has to continue to move steadily without the unusual pump to another ATH this year again, this might trigger another bearish run just like when the price attained ATH consequently resulted to bearish runs in mid May this year, personally I prefers it price to attain another ATH in 2022 that means the price will be closely to $100K or above, all the analysis is subject to non availability of any negative fundamental news that might mar our bullish prediction of the price in 2022.

[bbc.reporter]

@gabbie2010. You should begin to be cautious on 2022. You created your bitcointalk account on 2017, you should be familiar with the feeling of 2018 hehehe.

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.



Source https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1451169004689584130?s=12

[dragonvslinux]

@gabbie2010. You should begin to be cautious on 2022. You created your bitcointalk account on 2017, you should be familiar with the feeling of 2018 hehehe.

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.



Source https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1451169004689584130?s=12

This will be an interesting and potentially decisive event I think. Even if many of these creditors won't dump their Bitcoin and decide to hold most of it, it's $8.5 billion of btc going back into circulation. That liquidity could impact the price quite heavily in the short-term, given it's 0.73% of the current circulating supply returning to early investors. At present there is around $2.5 billion buy volume, with $40 million trading per day, so the spot market wouldn't be able to handle those quantities in one go. I imagine a lot of this may end up being sold via the custody services of exchanges that have a larger reserve, if it does indeed get sold.

That's not exactly a good sign either if exchanges end up with more Bitcoin than they want to be holding...

[Porfirii]

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.

So, from November 20 on, there won't be any more selling pressure that comes from the Mt.gox case, ever? It's not bad that old burdens from the past get removed little by little, like this one.

I hope that in 2022 the Cryptopia case gets solved too, which won't have in the market, in any case, the effect Mt.gox has had, but just to comment.