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It is strange that there is no agreed symbol that represents the satoshi uni, although I think that during the next 4 years we may start talking about it, especially with the trend of many wallets to use mBTC instead of BTC.

So what do you think is the appropriate symbol? I found this site https://satsymbol.com/.

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October 08, 2021, 08:12:01 AM
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This is a very good point and has been discussed several times , but no agreement yet
This is a good Twitter thread with some cool symbols

https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1155615251494256640?s=21

The biggest problem is trying to get a consensus , when Bitcoin is decentralised !
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October 08, 2021, 08:23:31 AM
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While the Japanese etymology behind the proposed symbol is fascinating and on-point, that particular symbol seems a bit boring to me. I'd want the symbol for Satoshi to be something more inspiring and easily approachable. The bland lines make it seem cryptic and uninteresting.

That being said, this symbol is very apt. Especially the part about Sat being the literal and visual structure of Bitcoin. What about some form of an s with the vertical bar. Just like the dollar but in more stylized. An interesting thing i came to know from this though is the dollar symbol is derived from Pesos..The P and S eventually merged with the S becoming prominent.
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If only Satoshi would have taken the name Gintoshi, Hatoshi, or anything else like Minato or Haruto , things would have been simpler, we could have used that letter and draw two lines on it and that, with the S is the problem with the $, nobody cares that the Thailand bath resembles a bit BTC, but with the $ it will be a real mess.

As for the sign above, meh, it doesn't tell a thing, besides it looks a lot like Ξ, which eth has chosen as a symbol.

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October 08, 2021, 08:41:58 AM
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I like the symbol, it's a very interesting concept. Getting to a chosen Satoshi symbol is gonna be hard unless some proper fair voting occurs.

I personally think the symbol will come in time by itself. Never investigated how the Bitcoin logo was "chosen"/voted for if it ever was, but if the community doesn't get to a consensus it will probably come on its own with time.
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October 08, 2021, 09:37:46 AM
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1. It sort of looks like the Ethereum symbol.
2. That's a lot of strokes when trying to write down on paper.

I saw someone tweet something like this:



which I think makes a lot of sense. It's an 's', with an '@' (at) = sat. Only downside is that it doesn't look like a currency symbol at all lol.

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October 08, 2021, 09:42:04 AM
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It's worth noting that the part that it said "Japanese" isn't accurate:

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    Reminiscent of the Japanese aesthetic, the closest character being 丰
    - If you copy that character in Google translate, it'll show up as Chinese [credit goes to @thatzenboi].

The main one that they came up with resembles an ab roller [a bit weird] but having said that, I do like the one with an "S" shape.

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Logotype design is an art form in itself. Not just the manual drawing of said symbol, but the conceptualization of the said symbol, that's a tricky thing. You would need something so accessible, easily recognizable, different from other visuals so it doesn't get confusing, and also a powerful statement in itself.  This is something a professional should do, someone that has worked with designing whole company images. But as someone said, it's too decentralize for that. 

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Logotype design is an art form in itself. Not just the manual drawing of said symbol, but the conceptualization of the said symbol, that's a tricky thing. You would need something so accessible, easily recognizable, different from other visuals so it doesn't get confusing, and also a powerful statement in itself.  This is something a professional should do, someone that has worked with designing whole company images. But as someone said, it's too decentralize for that. 

Sure professionals can definitely pitch in, and I hope they do so because it doesn't hurt to have different design perspectives. It's just that it's the community who should be deciding in the end.

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October 08, 2021, 10:38:29 AM
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We talked about satoshi symbols many times and I don't think that all people will ever agree about using one standard symbol for that, and I am not a fan of using some japanese symbols that look like some other altcoins.

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October 08, 2021, 10:43:34 AM
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We talked about satoshi symbols many times and I don't think that all people will ever agree about using one standard symbol for that, and I am not a fan of using some japanese symbols that look like some other altcoins.


Yeap. This pretty much will end up being like the smaller denomination discussions on Twitter(sats/mbtc/etc) — with nothing being decided and people just end up losing interest because of the lack of majority consensus lol.

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October 08, 2021, 11:26:16 AM
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This is a very good point and has been discussed several times , but no agreement yet
This is a good Twitter thread with some cool symbols

https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1155615251494256640?s=21

The biggest problem is trying to get a consensus , when Bitcoin is decentralised !

A consensus means that all the voters should agree on one option.This is close to impossible in reality.
The best method to pick a Satoshi symbol would be to list all possible symbols and let the Bitcoiners vote for their favorite.The symbol that gets the most votes should be chosen as the official Satoshi symbol.
I like the symbol that is proposed by OP on this forum thread.It has a deep meaning.
Using the Japanese alphabet to get inspiration is cool,even though Satoshi Nakamoto never claimed that he is Japanese.

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This would be one of the few times I would actually say let the devs do it without any community input.
If people actually put it out there everyone from every culture from all over the world is going to have their view.
Which is fine, but you are going to have a hell of a time coming to a decision and then nobody is going to really like it.

If in the core 24.1 release a few years from now it just shows up, so be it.
It's not like it's going to change the value of BTC or how the protocol works.

I would even go so far as to say that if ANY of the major wallets (Core, Electrum, Armory) come up with their own symbol just to do it for their wallet, the others developers would probably go with it for theirs too.

Just my view.

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October 08, 2021, 12:09:34 PM
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This design does appeal to me, so I'd support it if there were any signs of agreement in the community.  But, as pretty much everyone else has said, it's probably too subjective and everyone will like something different. 

It's really something we should have figured out years ago, back when it was easier to agree on stuff.  The larger the userbase, the greater the dissent, it seems.

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October 08, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
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I don't really like it. And the fact it resembles so much with ETH makes is even less suitable.
And I agree, there are pretty good/better options designed on that Twitter link Mbitr has posted.

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October 08, 2021, 12:41:16 PM
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especially with the trend of many wallets to use mBTC instead of BTC.
That will be the main consideration. Since bitcoin has other names for smaller units (mBTC, uBTC, sat), there will be other suggestions to create symbols for other units. Too many symbols will only confuse the user.


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I would even go so far as to say that if ANY of the major wallets (Core, Electrum, Armory) come up with their own symbol just to do it for their wallet, the others developers would probably go with it for theirs too.
Just reading the bitcoin wiki, it seems the symbol in the OP is the priority of choice for some developers.
This symbol has been adopted by multiple Bitcoin services including satoshilabs.com (Trezor), SatoshiCap.net, pricedinbitcoin21.com, Thunderhub.io, bitcoinicons.com, thebitcoinmachines.com, and many more.

Btw, at first glance it looks like Facebook's Libra symbol, just imagine people might think libra has actually been launched.

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October 08, 2021, 01:02:36 PM
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Over the years I have witnessed (as have many others) that many are confused when using denominations for Bitcoin, and although I understand the need for such things to exist, everyone understands best when any amount is shown in the classic and well-known form. Therefore, I am of the opinion that we may not need a symbol to represent satoshi, it could only create even more confusion among users.

Did anyone even think that we might be too convinced that Satoshi is Japanese or of Japanese descent, and that these Japanese symbols may not make much sense?

I have to admit that I would be quite confused if I visited a website that has a satoshi symbol without even being aware that something like that exists. Following some of the examples given by @noorman0 in his post, this is one example of how this looks implemented in the actual site.


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The satoshi symbol is $. End of discussion.  Wink

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October 08, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
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I don’t know if it’s because I’m old school & have been involved & invested in bitcoin for a long time but I don’t like the term satoshi being used. I prefer just to say 0.001BTC or whatever, if you know what I mean. Maybe I’ll come round to it but it’s not for me atm.

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October 08, 2021, 02:02:23 PM
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This is going to be a little bit difficult for the community to decide. With how currency symbols are traditionally done, it seems it would be the letter S and a vertical line across it. That would be a disaster because that would definitely be confused with the top fiat symbol. It would be a very poor choice.

With the symbol suggested in the OP, that makes me think of Ethereum more than Bitcoin. So still a poor choice.

Why wouldn't we rather use the S in the Greek alphabet? S or Sigma in Greek alphabet is Σ in capital and σ or ς in small letter. We could also put a vertical line across the symbol. If the capital letter appears more like an E and therefore suggests Ethereum more than Bitcoin then we could go for the small letter. It also kind of fits that the smallest denomination of Bitcoin should also be represented with a small letter.
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