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March 08, 2022, 09:59:59 PM
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Investors should bear in mind that bitcoin is not a get rich scheme, they should invest with their spare money.
Bitcoin is a digital currency, it's volatile(market fluctuates). It can't be controlled by anyone or predicted what the future holds about it. Bitcoin is the best way to store your future assets(money) and expect dividends in the future than saving them in the bank. Money invested in bitcoin cannot be lost if your private keys are stored up in a safe place.

Sad to say, that a lot of newcomers in crypto have this kind of mindset. That crypto market is a get-rich-quick scheme. And once they got on board, they realized that it is far from that expectation. If they are diligent enough, they won't give up but work on their way up to learn more about this market. And later on, they can reap their rewards. But for some, once they leave this market, they usually spread fud or other misleading ideas, wherein, other people will get a negative notion about crypto.

We are not talking about "crypto" in this thread..  We are talking about bitcoin.  Even the post you responded to does not even use the word "crypto" so not sure if you even understand what is bitcoin?  It is not very accurate or meaningful to try to make various clear points about bitcoin (if that is what you had intended to talk about?) if you had chosen to continuously use the word "crypto."  In that regard, you used the word "crypto" 3 times, but you did not even use the word bitcoin once.  Maybe you should just use the word bitcoin and figure out if you would have had said the same thing or not?

By the way, I have tended to find that if people (whether famous or not or whether posting in this forum or not) are not using the word bitcoin, and they are substituting the term "crypto" - maybe because they are afraid of the word bitcoin?  or they don't want to limit themselves, so they want to sound more sophisticated?  then they are tending to not be very precise in regards to what they are talking about and frequently it appears that they do not even sufficiently understand the difference.   If they did actually know the difference, then they would not be afraid to use the word bitcoin, or to be more specific about what they are saying, in the event that they were not wanting to talk specifically about bitcoin.

Otherwise, just vaguely throwing out the word "crypto" comes off as a lot of gobble-dee-gook, no?  

For a start, maybe you want to try with your post (response) again, 24Kt?  

Let me give you a hint:  Use the word bitcoin, and then the question might be about whether you are going to end up saying the same things or not?  

If you substitute bitcoin for your use of "crypto" and you end up saying the same things, then part of my question/concern would be why did you not just use bitcoin from the start and in the first place?    

On the other hand, if you use the word bitcoin, and you end up having to rephrase what you are saying to say something else, then perhaps it will have been a helpful exercise for you to have had recognized that your use of the word bitcoin ends up causing you to talk about the whole topic differently.    No?

On the other hand (am I running out of hands, yet?), if you do not know enough about what differentiates bitcoin from crypto, then you likely need to figure that out before throwing out such a ambiguous (and likely meaningless term like "crypto"... whatever the fuck that means?), especially if you are responding within a thread that specifies bitcoin.  

Sure, I understand that there are some people who would rather talk about "crypto" rather than talking about bitcoin, because for a variety of reasons they don't really believe in bitcoin.. they think that it is grandpa coin, or outdated, or does not innovate enough or some other nonsense, so in that regard, they choose to talk about some kind of amorphous and vague concept that they label as "crypto," and they see others making the same kind of reference, and I would argue that merely because there exist a lot of people throwing out there gobbledy-gook and vague language such as "crypto," such lack of discipline should not be tolerated.. whether the person happens to be famous or happens to be merely some member on a forum like this one, and I would suggest that those who are using such a vague term, such as "crypto" are not talking about bitcoin, and they are talking about some kind of vague and unclear topic, and if we are within a thread like this (where the word used was specifically about bitcoin), then anyone referring to "crypto" including you, 24Kt,  would be off-topic because of your use of such vague word that many of us likely do not even understand what you are talking about.. and even question if you know what you are talking about having had chosen that vague and ambiguous word instead of just using the word, "bitcoin."

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Now bitcoin is shining, even though the price has dropped but the number of users has increased dramatically, even during the pandemic period which made many businesses and investments die but bitcoin continues to skyrocket, but the thing that continues to increase is from haters who are also active for negative campaigns about bitcoin, even they are supported big companies and media for fear of bitcoin becoming their competitor.

What makes Bitcoin even more attractive is because the price of Bitcoin can rise in a pandemic situation like now. Even Bitcoin's performance
when compared to other assets is indeed the best in a pandemic situation, Bitcoin can be a source of income for some people. Bitcoin has also
succeeded in helping many people's economy get better, I am one of those people whose economy changed after getting to know Bitcoin.
Although not all countries accept Bitcoin, there are even some countries that prohibit the use of Bitcoin. But that hasn't stopped Bitcoin from
continuing to rise in price, and its popularity is increasing every year. So for people who have not invested in Bitcoin, immediately learn Bitcoin
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March 09, 2022, 07:13:22 PM
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Now bitcoin is shining, even though the price has dropped but the number of users has increased dramatically, even during the pandemic period which made many businesses and investments die but bitcoin continues to skyrocket, but the thing that continues to increase is from haters who are also active for negative campaigns about bitcoin, even they are supported big companies and media for fear of bitcoin becoming their competitor.
Negative speeches about bitcoin are indeed one of the common arguments for bitcoin because no matter how haters push their campaign and tell people that bitcoin is like this and like that, there are still bitcoin supporters that try to correct what they are saying. Now and then, we won't get tired to remind the public of what is true about bitcoin.

We cannot just let those haters win and take over bitcoin because we are also benefiting from it and we don't want to tarnish the reputation of bitcoin because that can hinder the ongoing adoption. Not sure if this is given already but another common argument for bitcoin is if bitcoin can replace banks or not. i often see this not only in the forum but even outside.

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Now bitcoin is shining, even though the price has dropped but the number of users has increased dramatically, even during the pandemic period which made many businesses and investments die but bitcoin continues to skyrocket, but the thing that continues to increase is from haters who are also active for negative campaigns about bitcoin, even they are supported big companies and media for fear of bitcoin becoming their competitor.
Negative speeches about bitcoin are indeed one of the common arguments for bitcoin because no matter how haters push their campaign and tell people that bitcoin is like this and like that, there are still bitcoin supporters that try to correct what they are saying. Now and then, we won't get tired to remind the public of what is true about bitcoin.

We cannot just let those haters win and take over bitcoin because we are also benefiting from it and we don't want to tarnish the reputation of bitcoin because that can hinder the ongoing adoption. Not sure if this is given already but another common argument for bitcoin is if bitcoin can replace banks or not. i often see this not only in the forum but even outside.

Well doomloop you are correct that the longer bitcoin is around, the more people who become informed and educated about what bitcoin is and can identify various ways that bitcoin is being misrepresented, whether that misrepresentation is coming by accident or seemingly on purpose. 

So even if a person has not been in bitcoin for very long, the mere participation in bitcoin, can cause way more paying attention and identifying that a lot of the bitcoin naysayers and shitcoin pumpers don't know what the fuck they are talking about.  Of course, the longer that you have been into bitcoin, the more likely that you have studied it more hours, even 100s or 1,000s of hours, and even someone who does not have a lot of time studying bitcoin can recognize that there is quite a bit of bitcoin naysaying, shitcoin pumping and even obfuscation of what is the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins to recognize that there is some role in correcting the record or clarifying the thinking of the so many folks that are out there that sometimes will spout out their knowledge of bitcoin and anyone with even rudimentary understandings of bitcoin will likely recognize and appreciate that the spouting out is largely coming from a place of ignorance and lack of sufficient/adequate studying into what bitcoin actually is.

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Yes, you are right, and not only is it the perfect way out for them, BTC also helps people who live in countries with failed economies, with levels of generalized and growing inflation, being deflationary, it is above many local economies and this is already something that helps particular economies that know and use BTC.

The utility of BTC not only helps that number of people who are in trouble, but if you manage to collect a good part, in the near future it can guarantee your own future and even that of the entire family, I think that in less than 5 years will be worth more than $100k.

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A new bitcoin investor should know that bitcoin is freedom. You don't need banks, bitcoin breaks borders, learn how to store your bitcoin safely. Join bitcoin communities like bitcointalk, on Twitter too. Buy bitcoin with your local currency on the top ten global exchanges. Avoid scammers, ask that your payment be in bitcoin, if you have your own business and it is allowed in your country say: Bitcoin is accepted here. If I had the opportunity to tell a new investor who wants to invest in bitcoin, I would surely say that.

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Now bitcoin is shining, even though the price has dropped but the number of users has increased dramatically, even during the pandemic period which made many businesses and investments die but bitcoin continues to skyrocket, but the thing that continues to increase is from haters who are also active for negative campaigns about bitcoin, even they are supported big companies and media for fear of bitcoin becoming their competitor.
Negative speeches about bitcoin are indeed one of the common arguments for bitcoin because no matter how haters push their campaign and tell people that bitcoin is like this and like that, there are still bitcoin supporters that try to correct what they are saying. Now and then, we won't get tired to remind the public of what is true about bitcoin.

We cannot just let those haters win and take over bitcoin because we are also benefiting from it and we don't want to tarnish the reputation of bitcoin because that can hinder the ongoing adoption. Not sure if this is given already but another common argument for bitcoin is if bitcoin can replace banks or not. i often see this not only in the forum but even outside.
Even though it wont be told but still people would able to know the truth no matter what even though they would be initially influenced out by those haters or false media but still the truth will

prevail because it would really be that evident specially if they do see adoption is already happening or way too obvious and thats  the time they would really be doing some in depth
research and would able to find the truth on what Bitcoin really is and its benefits and advantage compared on typical fiat.
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A new bitcoin investor should know that bitcoin is freedom. You don't need banks, bitcoin breaks borders, learn how to store your bitcoin safely. Join bitcoin communities like bitcointalk, on Twitter too. Buy bitcoin with your local currency on the top ten global exchanges. Avoid scammers, ask that your payment be in bitcoin, if you have your own business and it is allowed in your country say: Bitcoin is accepted here. If I had the opportunity to tell a new investor who wants to invest in bitcoin, I would surely say that.

Just to add, if you buy bitcoin and you are going to be here for a long time, better be ready with some hardware wallets to save your bitcoin stash. Don't use like exchanges wallet, go for a wallet that you can control or have the private keys. How many have we seen people losing their bitcoin because it's either they lack the knowledge to protect their assets to scammers and hackers? Many, so I guess this is very important if you are going to begin your Bitcoin journey.

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What should new investors know about Bitcoin?
The first thing a new investor should know is Risk.
The development of Bitcoin that continues to increase makes new investors tempted by the profits that have been obtained by several other investors, but new investors must be aware of the risks before putting their money in Bitcoin. New investors should view Bitcoin as a high-risk asset, because the price of Bitcoin can rise or fall unexpectedly in a short time or what we often hear as price fluctuations.
The purpose of a person investing is only to double the money value of the effort put in. New investors should avoid the Fear of missing out (FOMO), Bitcoin investment can indeed provide benefits, however, if it is only based on FOMO of course the impact will not be good for investors. Every decision taken must be carefully considered, they also have to think about whether the decision was right or just going along with it.

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March 12, 2022, 10:00:28 AM
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What should new investors know about Bitcoin?

They should know about everything. A wise investors always do enough research about their investment. Advantages and Disadvantages of bitcoin, risk and rewards factors, Nature of bull and bear market in crypto space, the reason behind every bull and bear cycle, halving etc. These are some most basic and must have knowledge as a bitcoin investors.

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The first thing a new investor should know is Risk.
The development of Bitcoin that continues to increase makes new investors tempted by the profits that have been obtained by several other investors, but new investors must be aware of the risks before putting their money in Bitcoin. New investors should view Bitcoin as a high-risk asset, because the price of Bitcoin can rise or fall unexpectedly in a short time or what we often hear as price fluctuations.
The purpose of a person investing is only to double the money value of the effort put in. New investors should avoid the Fear of missing out (FOMO), Bitcoin investment can indeed provide benefits, however, if it is only based on FOMO of course the impact will not be good for investors. Every decision taken must be carefully considered, they also have to think about whether the decision was right or just going along with it.
I am not saying that Risk is not that important, but I would say Risk is not the most important one. If you are getting into something in the crytpo world, with the volatility as it is, the risk is there and known anyway. The most important part is to be aware of scams because it is so easy to get scammed. Maybe that falls under the umbrella of risk?

If you would consider the "risk" of getting scammed as getting under that part, then I 100% agree with you, but I would say scamming is like its own big thing in crypto. If you do not get scammed, and if you legit invest your money into proper projects, like btc, eth, bnb and so forth, then it is really easy, just hold them for years and get richer.
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March 12, 2022, 11:05:47 PM
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What should new investors know about Bitcoin?
Proven long-term investment worth.
Decentralized, different with bank system/
Everybody can be an investor in Bitcoin
We can invest in Bitcoin with however we have, not only must 1BTC.
It is affordable to invest for all people, not like investment in property or others.

Negative speeches about bitcoin are indeed one of the common arguments for bitcoin because no matter how haters push their campaign and tell people that bitcoin is like this and like that, there are still bitcoin supporters that try to correct what they are saying. Now and then, we won't get tired to remind the public of what is true about bitcoin.
This is always around Bitcoin, whatever the era, negative speeches or FUD will be always surrounding, no matter what happens. If Bitcoin is rising up, the FUD will be spreading, saying that Bitcoin is only hype. When the price is dropped, FUD is also spreading, saying that Bitcoin is scam, not worthy, harmful, criminal, and many otehrs.
Let it be. But what we can do isby letting peole know more that Bitcoin also has many advantages, not only hearing from one side with negativeness of Bitcoin, but we should also open our mind to accept the posistive things of Bitcoin

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