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October 30, 2021, 04:09:44 AM
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I would have to agree with Pmalek... if it's an ERC-20 token, I'd be inclined to stick with something like Metamask or MEW or MyCrypto. You can still use them in conjuction with a hardware wallet like a Nano S/X or a Trezor ONE/T, but they are much better equipped to deal with ETH/ERC-20 related matters.


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November 02, 2021, 08:07:50 AM
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So I decided to get the ledger nano S, but apparently, there is no easy way to do it?

The only option I have to pay with (in crypto) is BitPay but whenever I'm redirected to the invoice, it says that I need to login and verify my identity.  Am I missing something here?

I didn't make an account yet, but I'm assuming this means KYC:

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November 02, 2021, 08:32:46 AM
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BitPay

Yeah, BitPay requires KYC for the payments.

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November 02, 2021, 08:38:36 AM
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Yeah, BitPay requires KYC for the payments.

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I was aware of all of this, but I always managed to use a BIP71 decoder or continue as a guest since the goods were not expensive :/

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November 02, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
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I don't have Trezor T, but the difference may not be big and they seem to not use BitPay for crypto payments.
It may be another direction worth thinking on...

(Unfortunately I don't remember if I paid with crypto or fiat for my Nano S back when I've bought it)

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November 02, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
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That's unfortunate. You speak Arabic so I assume you are located in a Middle Eastern country. Of course, I could be wrong. But if you are, maybe you can check with one of their official resellers for the Middle East.

Janbal LTD and Phoenix World Electronic Trading LLC are both mentioned as part of the Ledger network and are located in the United Arab Emirates. You can check the resellers from other locations just in case you reside somewhere else. It's not the same as purchasing directly from the manufacturer, but it's an option worth considering.   

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November 02, 2021, 10:52:27 AM
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I think that Ledger is just a closed source honeypot so purchasing it online almost guarantees that your email, home address and all other private information will be ''leaked'' and exposed in future like it happened before.
Using PO boxes or alternative addresses for delivery might be a better option, or even better is using official local resellers like Pmalek suggested.
Good luck with ledger and be ready for their crappy firmware updates that break more stuff than they fix, especially for X version.

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I think that Ledger is just a closed source honeypot so purchasing it online almost guarantees that your email, home address and all other private information will be ''leaked'' and exposed in future like it happened before.
I think that's a bit exaggerated. They messed up big time with the database leakages, but they aren't the first nor the last company that will have their site/database hacked. Future events can't be predicted based on what happened in the past. I hope for the sake of everyone that a similar leak won't happen to a different hardware wallet producer. Somehow it seems to have become personal for you. Or maybe that's the feeling I am getting from reading your posts when Ledger is being mentioned. I hope I will never have to find out if you would attack other manufacturers the same way because that would mean another big leak happened somewhere.     

Using PO boxes or alternative addresses for delivery might be a better option, or even better is using official local resellers like Pmalek suggested.
It sure is. If you can set something like that up, it's better than delivering valuable items that have to do with crypto and your financials to your doorstep.

Good luck with ledger and be ready for their crappy firmware updates that break more stuff than they fix, especially for X version.
OmegaStarScream is buying a Nano S. I have had the Nano S for years and have never experienced the firmware breaking anything. One upgrade did wipe the device and reset it to factory settings. Each new update takes up more space from the already limited internal memory, but that's the compromise you have to make for buying the cheaper and older version. I still think the Nano S is better than the X model for various reasons: No battery, charging issues, Bluetooth, and the most recent problems with pin connectors or overheating you made the community aware of.   

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I think that's a bit exaggerated. They messed up big time with the database leakages, but they aren't the first nor the last company that will have their site/database hacked. Future events can't be predicted based on what happened in the past.
That is my own opinion, history often times repeats itself and I don't see anything good in their recent amateurish behavior with faulty batteries and bad updates.
If you want I am willing to make a public bet with you (in Bitcoin) that more information will be leaked from them in 2022 or 2023 by ''accident'' or some ''cyber attack hack''.
You can't run a serious company like a village circus and expect any security for customer information.

I have had the Nano S for years and have never experienced the firmware breaking anything.
It is breaking many things if you are using any shitcoins, and I have ledger reddit to confirm that.
Do your own research and don't trust my words.

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November 02, 2021, 05:02:21 PM
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I don't see anything good in their recent amateurish behavior with faulty batteries and bad updates.
What's been happening with the Nano X model is awful. My personal opinion is that it's being done on purpose by a group of dissatisfied or unqualified workers who are assembling the devices. Those battery hardware problems weren't there in the beginning. I think they started appearing after those database leaks. Ledger was probably hit financially as a result of those leaks. With the pandemic and lose of reputation, they aren't generating the profits they did in the previous years. Again this is my opinion. As a consequence, they either had to let some of their people go or lower the wages of those still working on the devices. Like in every company that goes through financial difficulties, it's not going to be the directors who feel it, it will hit those at the bottom working the assembly line.

It is breaking many things if you are using any shitcoins, and I have ledger reddit to confirm that.
That's good. It means Ledger is doing their part in convincing people to not use shitcoins and stick with bitcoin.

Seriously though, I think we have established in the past that Ledger Live and Ledger were never meant to be used as a wallet to store hundreds and even dozens of altcoins and tokens. Many issues occur due to various ERC-20 tokens. For those you have MetaMask, MEW, etc. I can only mention my own experience which involves never keeping more than 4-5 different assets on the device with no serious issues to report. If the problem was that widespread, I seriously doubt that I just got lucky or that God watches over me and protects me from software bugs.

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November 03, 2021, 01:40:04 AM
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The only option I have to pay with (in crypto) is BitPay but whenever I'm redirected to the invoice, it says that I need to login and verify my identity.  Am I missing something here?
Did you try the "crypto.com Pay" option? or was it not available to you? Huh




I just tried it (with dummy data, to order a Nano S) and it gives me the option to pay using BTC without requiring anything other than an (unverified) email address.

(note: click the "Other Cryptocurrency wallets" option)




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November 04, 2021, 10:16:52 AM
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Did you try the "crypto.com Pay" option? or was it not available to you? Huh

It's not available to me. I'm not sure where are you from but I'm from the MENA region. I tried to use a VPN and change my IP to a Romanian, U.S, and German one but nothing is showing.

Edit: This must be a joke. It appears that the payment methods are based on my physical address. In other words, it's impossible to pay for the invoice using Crypto.com unless I ship the wallet to one of the supported countries.


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I would solve it by paying with PP, when it doesn't go the other way. If you really want to pay HW with BTC, you can sell a certain amount directly for PP and thus pay it to Ledger. Of course, assuming you have a PP account, and you find someone on the forum to trade BTC - PP.

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It's not available to me. I'm not sure where are you from but I'm from the MENA region. I tried to use a VPN and change my IP to a Romanian, U.S, and German one but nothing is showing.

Edit: This must be a joke. It appears that the payment methods are based on my physical address. In other words, it's impossible to pay for the invoice using Crypto.com unless I ship the wallet to one of the supported countries.

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You could always ask someone to buy it and reship it for you? But yes, that is pretty fucking fucked. I was able to pay with Crypto.com and used my PO box as to not leak any details to Ledger.

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